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I'll just say this about the draft this year. You're going to have to put SOMEONE in the Lottery. And there aren't a hell of a lot good choices out there.
This is the worst class I've seen in years.
This is the worst class I've seen in years.
I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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Flip is def lotto guy right now in this class, I do have some questions about his broader role in the NBA tho if that 3 ball doesnt start hitting at a higher clip
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EvanZ wrote:I'll just say this about the draft this year. You're going to have to put SOMEONE in the Lottery. And there aren't a hell of a lot good choices out there.
This is the worst class I've seen in years.
They say that every year tbh
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azcatz11 wrote:EvanZ wrote:I'll just say this about the draft this year. You're going to have to put SOMEONE in the Lottery. And there aren't a hell of a lot good choices out there.
This is the worst class I've seen in years.
They say that every year tbh
no
this class really is pretty historically bad at this point. the best player in this class would probably go no better than 5th or 6th last year. it was also a historically weak HS recruiting class.
doesn't mean you can't find good players in the draft and there is always an off chance it improves dramatically between now and draft day but as of now, it's bad bad.
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It’s objectively bad. I am struggling to find 10 legit OAD prospects
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I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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azcatz11 wrote:EvanZ wrote:I'll just say this about the draft this year. You're going to have to put SOMEONE in the Lottery. And there aren't a hell of a lot good choices out there.
This is the worst class I've seen in years.
They say that every year tbh
what I've noticed is, the people that post the most in here seem to know the least and are objectively bad at evaluating prospects. I've never seen so many bad takes when it comes to prospects and classes than in here. All you can do is laugh
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Chuck Everett wrote:How can he start at center and not protect the rim in any capacity? What team would willing to waste a first rounder on that? You only do that if you think he can be like Sengun or Sabonis as an offensive hub? Do you really see that kind of talent in Filipowski?
Seems like the national reporters are (finally) becoming hip to the fact that Lively covered up a lot of his deficiencies on the defensive end.
He isn't an NBA athlete, even for a 7 footer. Yes he's tall and he's certainly skilled but he won't be able to defend the perimeter or be a rim protector. He can't even do it in college unless tiny guards go right at him. Duke is abysmal down low and it'll be their demise come tournament time.
I guess you can play him in a Markkenen role but even he is a much better athlete than Filipowski. He's a classic great college player that won't amount to much in the NBA unless he goes full bore with the PEDs. Should be a late first or early second pick if he even comes out. I think he'd be better off staying in college as long as he can, collect the NIL money and hope to carve out a Plumlee type career.
I once thought of him as a potential lottery pick but not any longer. Not with how much talent there is in this draft class. That doesn't mean some idiot G.M. won't reach badly for him mostly based on him coming from Duke though so wouldn't be shocked if he does go in the late lottery.
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EvanZ wrote:It’s objectively bad. I am struggling to find 10 legit OAD prospects
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why are you bragging about being really really bad at this?
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azcatz11 wrote:So your referencing a random twitter with random players trying to prove he will be a good 3 pt shooter based off this? I don’t see any connection or any relevance
1) The twitter user is irrelevant. Look at the content - not the user.
2) The players listed that are not Filipowski..all of them either went on to become a good shooter in the NBA, or they are kind of a similar type of player to what Filipowski could be in the NBA - that's why these players were chosen as a reference point
3) Point of this is to show that
a) Flip *could* develop into a very solid shooter in the NBA, despite a low 3FG% prior to being drafted
b) Even if he doesn't become a really good shooter..like even if he's just a decent shooter, he could still end up being a solid NBA player worth drafting in the 1st round
c) Guys like Vucevic, Olynyk, Marc Gasol, Grant Williams, etc. were not significantly better shooters than Flip, prior to being drafted. Neither was Jokic, Sabonis, Sengun, Lopez or Horford.
d) What some other posted about "unless Flip can shoot 40% from 3 in college, he won't be a good shooter in the NBA" is a load of crap..
e) Volume is typically seen as the best indicator of shooting projection. Flip's volume is better than lots of bigs who went on to be good shooters in the NBA
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FarBeyondDriven wrote:EvanZ wrote:It’s objectively bad. I am struggling to find 10 legit OAD prospects
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why are you bragging about being really really bad at this?
Why are you name calling people because they think this is a bad class? Are you OK? U have emotional connection here to this class or something?
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A really great article written before Kyle's sophomore season.
SI.com Fan NationAnalytics Insight: Kyle Filipowski
Kyle Filipowski, the former five-star prospect out of Wilbraham, Massachusetts committed to play at Duke for the 2022-23 college basketball season. In his freshman year, he led Duke in points and rebounds, as well as an appearance in March Madness, where they lost to Tennessee in the second round.
The 7-footer averaged 15.1 points, 8.9 rebounds, and 1.6 assists per game in 2022-23 for Duke and was projected as a mid-late first-round pick in the 2023 NBA Draft, but surprised NBA decisionmakers by electing to return to Duke for his sophomore campaign.
Filipowski’s Offense Breakdown
StrengthsAreas of ImprovementSpoiler:Filipowski’s DefenseSpoiler:ConclusionSpoiler:
Filipowski is a versatile player on both sides of the ball, great footwork and skill set for a big man as well as a solid shooting mechanic. If he can put it all together, he is a very intriguing prospect for the upcoming 2024 NBA draft.
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FarBeyondDriven wrote:EvanZ wrote:It’s objectively bad. I am struggling to find 10 legit OAD prospects
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why are you bragging about being really really bad at this?
I mean, son, if you think this is a good class...
I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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Will he be a lottery pick?
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clyde21 wrote:FarBeyondDriven wrote:EvanZ wrote:It’s objectively bad. I am struggling to find 10 legit OAD prospects
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why are you bragging about being really really bad at this?
Why are you name calling people because they think this is a bad class? Are you OK? U have emotional connection here to this class or something?
says the dude who trolls constantly and is crying about being called out for having bad opinions. Please. This very post is you clearly being the one with the emotional attachment to this being a weak draft class but that's obviously lost on you
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This is a big man prospect who has a strong offensive ceiling. Exceptional passer and playmaker as a Center.
I'd like to see a team like New Orleans take him in the teens, Atlanta take a flier or the Warriors.
I'd like to see a team like New Orleans take him in the teens, Atlanta take a flier or the Warriors.
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He is the exact kind of big man every fan base would hate to have as their starting center. His offense will have to be outlier good to make him worth it.
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MemphisX wrote:He is the exact kind of big man every fan base would hate to have as their starting center. His offense will have to be outlier good to make him worth it.
Would have said the same thing about Jokic or Sengun
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EvanZ wrote:MemphisX wrote:He is the exact kind of big man every fan base would hate to have as their starting center. His offense will have to be outlier good to make him worth it.
Would have said the same thing about Jokic or Sengun
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Yup. He has good steal/block numbers, similar to Sengun. Great assist numbers, similar to Sengun. He is older and in a different league environment, but 20% AST% is a major indicator.
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ehh, i think the Alpy comp is a stretch, Flip makes good reads and can get the ball where it needs to go but if you're drafting him to be your inside-out offensive hub you're gonna be disappointed unless there is outlier development in that department
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clyde21 wrote:ehh, i think the Alpy comp is a stretch, Flip makes good reads and can get the ball where it needs to go but if you're drafting him to be your inside-out offensive hub you're gonna be disappointed unless there is outlier development in that department
Sure, I'm just saying there are signs that he could be that player. This isn't Kel'el Ware out there offensively.
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