Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic

[jazzfan1971]

I think you can use 'Goon' instead of 'Thug' and get the same meaning without the racial connotations.

[Miami_Lux]

How is this racially charged language? This seems like mod got offended by sentiment more than actually what was the issue with the evading the language filter.

It's not even remotely "racially charged" ... but they will try to tell you that the word "thug" has some extra kind of meaning. Lunacy.

Google why referring to a black man as a thug is racially charged, especially in its modern-day context when used to demonize and criminalize black men. Mods are tasked with ensuring conversation remains cordial and on topic, and using charged language will not be conducive to a productive discussion. I'm not going back and forth about this.

There's a difference of pointing out to use a different word to remove any perceived racially charged language Vs threatening to ban someone for insinuating it was racially charged.

Thug - "a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal." Green has assaulted multiple players in public. I think the core definition fits. I think you are right saying we should use better words but insinuating someone is racist just because others use the word inappropriately isnt fair IMHO

Would you ever call a white person with blond hair a thug. No you wouldn’t. The word is used to describe black men that are acting out of control. That s what it means in a societal context. You can always go back to the dictionary but words change form and meaning over time. This one is meant to stereotype black people.

[Big J]

I am just tired of seeing this shyt from this guy. Fcuk r/nba mods for banning me for calling him out for what he is - a friggin thug. Fcuk reddit. Fcuk warriors fans and anyone else who defend him and his behavior. Fcuk Kerr for enabling him. Fcuk Steph too for enabling him. I lose more and more respect for Kerr and Steph each and every time this guy does this and they enable him. Their reputation and their standing gets a bit more shyt-stained every time they stand for and by this moron. This is NOT basketball.

You will also be banned here if you continue to use racially charged language and evade the language filter.
-infinite

How is this racially charged language? This seems like mod got offended by sentiment more than actually what was the issue with the evading the language filter.

It's not even remotely "racially charged" ... but they will try to tell you that the word "thug" has some extra kind of meaning. Lunacy.

You’re not black, so you have zero say as to what words are considered offensive.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

I think you can use 'Goon' instead of 'Thug' and get the same meaning without the racial connotations.

Honestly, any negative adjective in association with a minority is going to get people called racist.

[Yoshun]

I'm surprised, Curry was playing in this one too.

[Slim Tubby]

How is this racially charged language? This seems like mod got offended by sentiment more than actually what was the issue with the evading the language filter.

It's not even remotely "racially charged" ... but they will try to tell you that the word "thug" has some extra kind of meaning. Lunacy.

Google why referring to a black man as a thug is racially charged, especially in its modern-day context when used to demonize and criminalize black men. Mods are tasked with ensuring conversation remains cordial and on topic, and using charged language will not be conducive to a productive discussion. I'm not going back-and-forth about this.

Look, where I am from - Canada - we don't use "thug" to refer to whatever you're thinking. This is ENGLISH LANGUAGE. This is a GLOBAL FORUM. Is it not? We use global definitions. You are using what is contextually correct FOR YOU locally.

I'm going to say it again so you know - I am a visible minority, I have experienced racial discrimination all my life, and I don't ever want anyone else to be treated like that. That's MY context.

It's pretty clear that the sole person involved with this discussion who believes that only African Americans are capable of being a "thug" is the Mod.

[Big J]

How is this racially charged language? This seems like mod got offended by sentiment more than actually what was the issue with the evading the language filter.

It's not even remotely "racially charged" ... but they will try to tell you that the word "thug" has some extra kind of meaning. Lunacy.

Google why referring to a black man as a thug is racially charged, especially in its modern-day context when used to demonize and criminalize black men. Mods are tasked with ensuring conversation remains cordial and on topic, and using charged language will not be conducive to a productive discussion. I'm not going back and forth about this.

There's a difference of pointing out to use a different word to remove any perceived racially charged language Vs threatening to ban someone for insinuating it was racially charged.

Thug - "a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal." Green has assaulted multiple players in public. I think the core definition fits. I think you are right saying we should use better words but insinuating someone is racist just because others use the word inappropriately isnt fair IMHO

You can’t say what is and what isn’t racially charged if you’re not black.

[toodarkmark]

I think everyone who he's attacked on the court should get together and bring a class action lawsuit for assault. Poole, Gobert, Nurkic, and Sabonis. It won't stop until he puts a player out. Even if the NBA suspends him 20 games, he's not going to stop. Especially as he gets older and he starts to slow down, he'll depend even more on attacking people "by accident."

Also, this whole selling plays. Overtly saying he manipulates the refs through flopping, and that's just ok? Whether everyone does it, its embarrassing for him to blame his violence on trying to flop.

[whatisacenter]

That GSW pick might be good after all.

As a Warriors' fan I am just hoping it doesn't end up in the top 4 in this draft because then they would keep the pick and this draft sucks. I think it becomes top 1 protected next season and unprotected the next.

But back to Draymond....I hated that they extended him and wish he would just go away.

whatever fraud told you this or whichever site you read this on should be the impetus to get your opinions from somewhere else. There's plenty of talent in this year's draft. The "experts" saying otherwise get it wrong almost every year.

Which players at the top of this draft would be worth the Warriors losing their top 1 protected pick in 2025 or unprotected pick in 2026?

There is always talent in a draft but sometimes there is no clear cut top of the draft talent and that's what next year's draft is to me.

[Big J]

Google why referring to a black man as a thug is racially charged, especially in its modern-day context when used to demonize and criminalize black men. Mods are tasked with ensuring conversation remains cordial and on topic, and using charged language will not be conducive to a productive discussion. I'm not going back-and-forth about this.

Look, where I am from - Canada - we don't use "thug" to refer to whatever you're thinking. This is ENGLISH LANGUAGE. This is a GLOBAL FORUM. Is it not? We use global definitions. You are using what is contextually correct FOR YOU locally.

I'm going to say it again so you know - I am a visible minority, I have experienced racial discrimination all my life, and I don't ever want anyone else to be treated like that. That's MY context.

It's pretty clear that the sole person involved with this discussion who believes that only African Americans are capable of being a "thug" is the Mod.

Thug is used for black dudes 99% of the time. It’s a racially charged term bro.

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

How is this racially charged language? This seems like mod got offended by sentiment more than actually what was the issue with the evading the language filter.

It's not even remotely "racially charged" ... but they will try to tell you that the word "thug" has some extra kind of meaning. Lunacy.

You’re not black, so you have zero say as to what words are considered offensive.

He didn't argue it was impossible to be offended by it, he argue'd it isn't racist.

Personally, I think I'd be more offended someone associates a negative word with an entire race of people, rather than someone using a very correct definition to describe a single person who demonstates the behavior of the word.

Just because POS' in the past used that word to only describe black people doesn't change the actual definition of the word itself or mean that everyone who says that word is a racist.

If you want to make a point that it can be insensitive, sure, go for it, but it isn't racist.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Would you ever call a white person with blond hair a thug. No you wouldn’t. The word is used to describe black men that are acting out of control. That s what it means in a societal context. You can always go back to the dictionary but words change form and meaning over time. This one is meant to stereotype black people.

Yes, i've called dirty football and basketball opponents thug before who happened to be white. Honestly, when i hear the word thug, i think of a biker/outlaw at a bar. I totally get it is a bad word to use as others have used it inappropriately. Like someone posted the clip of the Mariners player is disgusting. I just think it is jumping to conclusions to say the word is always racially charged and threatening to ban someone. It's a common word that isn't always racially charged.

I'm all for "Doing Better" but instead of jumping on the guy, teach him why its offensive and move on.

[HanzGruber]

I am just tired of seeing this shyt from this guy. Fcuk r/nba mods for banning me for calling him out for what he is - a friggin thug. Fcuk reddit. Fcuk warriors fans and anyone else who defend him and his behavior. Fcuk Kerr for enabling him. Fcuk Steph too for enabling him. I lose more and more respect for Kerr and Steph each and every time this guy does this and they enable him. Their reputation and their standing gets a bit more shyt-stained every time they stand for and by this moron. This is NOT basketball.

You will also be banned here if you continue to use racially charged language and evade the language filter.
-infinite

How is this racially charged language? This seems like mod got offended by sentiment more than actually what was the issue with the evading the language filter.

Thank you. I would like to know how THIS IS RACIALLY CHARGED. I am a visible minority. I ain't white. I personally have experienced racism overtly and covertly through out my life in US and Canada. I have been stopped from going into stores because of the color of my skin.

probably cause you called him a thug that aint racially charged

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Look, where I am from - Canada - we don't use "thug" to refer to whatever you're thinking. This is ENGLISH LANGUAGE. This is a GLOBAL FORUM. Is it not? We use global definitions. You are using what is contextually correct FOR YOU locally.

I'm going to say it again so you know - I am a visible minority, I have experienced racial discrimination all my life, and I don't ever want anyone else to be treated like that. That's MY context.

It's pretty clear that the sole person involved with this discussion who believes that only African Americans are capable of being a "thug" is the Mod.

Thug is used for black dudes 99% of the time. It’s a racially charged term bro.

People have been calling Grayson Allen a thug since he became known. People called ZaZa a thug. Same with every other dirty player in NBA history regardless of skin color.

Just so happens to be a league with a lot more black people than white people.

...and no I'm not ignoring the historical context in which you are referring, simply saying people use that word to describe anyone who is dirty, not just black players.

[TRik]

It's not even remotely "racially charged" ... but they will try to tell you that the word "thug" has some extra kind of meaning. Lunacy.

You’re not black, so you have zero say as to what words are considered offensive.

He didn't argue it was impossible to be offended by it, he argue'd it isn't racist.

Personally, I think I'd be more offended someone associates a negative word with an entire race of people, rather than someone using a very correct definition to describe a single person who demonstates the behavior of the word.

Just because POS' in the past used that word to only describe black people doesn't change the actual definition of the word itself or mean that everyone who says that word is a racist.

If you want to make a point that it can be insensitive, sure, go for it, but it isn't racist.

One thing I will agree with is this is a global forum and globally words are not always considered or used with explicitly American context. When you live outside of North America you realise how arrogant those assumptions come across.

[infinite11285]

I think you are right saying we should use better words but insinuating someone is racist just because others use the word inappropriately isnt fair IMHO

Thank you

For the record, I never insinuated anyone was a racist; I gave a simple instruction to ensure the conversation didn't veer into a virulent space.

[azcatz11]

Honestly, stuff like this makes the regular season interesting. He is non stop entertainment. Dirty as hell but it's fun watching him play. A throwback of sorts.

I'm fine with no suspension.

Would you say this if it was Grayson Allen?

TBF Grayson just has such an unlikeable/punchable face that we are all biased

Thank you for answering for me

[JasonStern]

League is soft these days. One time Ron Artest saw a dude take a broken table leg and stab someone right through the heart. He died right there on the court. So yeah, soft league.

[BrianFitz]

How is this racially charged language? This seems like mod got offended by sentiment more than actually what was the issue with the evading the language filter.

It's not even remotely "racially charged" ... but they will try to tell you that the word "thug" has some extra kind of meaning. Lunacy.

You’re not black, so you have zero say as to what words are considered offensive.

True ... I forgot. I'll just slink back into my corner.

[SkyHook]

The first NBA player that I think of when I see/hear the word “thug” is Bill Laimbeer.