Game 24, Big 3 debut: The Nets (12-10) @ Suns (13-10) | Wednesday | 7:00PM

[ArksNetsSince99]

If we can’t win against a 45 win team with KD, Booker, Beal, Nurkic shooting 50%+ we are in for a rude awakening as the season progresses.

I don’t think Nets is 45 win team , maybe 40 if we lucky

He was talking last year. Brooklyn has played the 10th toughest schedule and 4th toughest in the east.

Ignoring their SOS, they are on a 46 win pace right now.

That’s why I never liked Beal trade , you need guys like DFS or Bruce Browns of the league to give you that hard nosed defensive presence without compromising much on offense

Daniel Theis who went recently to the Clippers for cheap , ilike this guy as well

[ArksNetsSince99]

Not a promising start to the big 3 era. They looked like they were getting in each other's way more than they were helping free up each other.

I'm personally disappointed since I held onto the hope the big 3 playing together would bring us back to the heights of the preseason but I guess we'll have to wait. The season is still long andbwe have too much talent not to figure out how to play together, right ?

The same story we had on the Nets , Big three played what ? Whole 16 games , and we were always waiting and waiting and looking for excuses being disappointed constantly

I’m not saying Suns will end up the same , but man it’s feels similar for Suns fans what the Nets fans been through, at least for now

[DirtyDez]

Can’t believe how bad they butchered the final 28 seconds. Why is Dinwiddie just walking it up the court and draining the clock. You either foul right away or pressure in the backcourt.

[SunsRback4Good]

I don’t think Nets is 45 win team , maybe 40 if we lucky

He was talking last year. Brooklyn has played the 10th toughest schedule and 4th toughest in the east.

Ignoring their SOS, they are on a 46 win pace right now.

That’s why I never liked Beal trade , you need guys like DFS or Bruce Browns of the league to give you that hard nosed defensive presence without compromising much on offense

Daniel Theis who went recently to the Clippers for cheap , ilike this guy as well

Well said ARK.. every contending team needs guys like Brown, DFS, Tucker (2-3 years ago), maybe Caruso, guys who play tough nosed defense and can nail corner shots or come through for putbacks like Bruce Brown. Sadly Suns don’t have those type of players which will make it extremely difficult in advancing further in the playoffs. I don’t see same intensity and drive by our team as opposed to what I saw with Bridges, CamJ, Crowder, CP3 back in 2021.

[sashaturiaf]

Not a promising start to the big 3 era. They looked like they were getting in each other's way more than they were helping free up each other.

I'm personally disappointed since I held onto the hope the big 3 playing together would bring us back to the heights of the preseason but I guess we'll have to wait. The season is still long andbwe have too much talent not to figure out how to play together, right ?

The same story we had on the Nets , Big three played what ? Whole 16 games , and we were always waiting and waiting and looking for excuses being disappointed constantly

I’m not saying Suns will end up the same , but man it’s feels similar for Suns fans what the Nets fans been through, at least for now

Difference was the Nets big 3 were supernova when they played together. Its been the only team I've seen where scoring droughts didn't exist.

Suns big 3 got a long way to go to get to that level and the odds are stacked against that, since Beal is not comparable to Harden as a playmaker.

[garrick]

He was talking last year. Brooklyn has played the 10th toughest schedule and 4th toughest in the east.

Ignoring their SOS, they are on a 46 win pace right now.

That’s why I never liked Beal trade , you need guys like DFS or Bruce Browns of the league to give you that hard nosed defensive presence without compromising much on offense

Daniel Theis who went recently to the Clippers for cheap , ilike this guy as well

Well said ARK.. every contending team needs guys like Brown, DFS, Tucker (2-3 years ago), maybe Caruso, guys who play tough nosed defense and can nail corner shots or come through for putbacks like Bruce Brown. Sadly Suns don’t have those type of players which will make it extremely difficult in advancing further in the playoffs. I don’t see same intensity and drive by our team as opposed to what I saw with Bridges, CamJ, Crowder, CP3 back in 2021.

Those kind of players don't grow on trees and they normally can't be found for around the league minimum but this is what happens when you throw close to 150m into your starting 3. You just don't have the ability to sign the mid tier players to your roster.

[ArksNetsSince99]

He was talking last year. Brooklyn has played the 10th toughest schedule and 4th toughest in the east.

Ignoring their SOS, they are on a 46 win pace right now.

That’s why I never liked Beal trade , you need guys like DFS or Bruce Browns of the league to give you that hard nosed defensive presence without compromising much on offense

Daniel Theis who went recently to the Clippers for cheap , ilike this guy as well

Well said ARK.. every contending team needs guys like Brown, DFS, Tucker (2-3 years ago), maybe Caruso, guys who play tough nosed defense and can nail corner shots or come through for putbacks like Bruce Brown. Sadly Suns don’t have those type of players which will make it extremely difficult in advancing further in the playoffs. I don’t see same intensity and drive by our team as opposed to what I saw with Bridges, CamJ, Crowder, CP3 back in 2021.

IDK if is true but Nets recently shopped DFS for 1 FRP , and the general board went berserk that is to much for him

My opinion is whichever contender grabs him swing their chances big time , I don’t even know If suns have the FrP left but if I’m a gm am looking to get him big time

[sashaturiaf]

He was talking last year. Brooklyn has played the 10th toughest schedule and 4th toughest in the east.

Ignoring their SOS, they are on a 46 win pace right now.

That’s why I never liked Beal trade , you need guys like DFS or Bruce Browns of the league to give you that hard nosed defensive presence without compromising much on offense

Daniel Theis who went recently to the Clippers for cheap , ilike this guy as well

Well said ARK.. every contending team needs guys like Brown, DFS, Tucker (2-3 years ago), maybe Caruso, guys who play tough nosed defense and can nail corner shots or come through for putbacks like Bruce Brown. Sadly Suns don’t have those type of players which will make it extremely difficult in advancing further in the playoffs. I don’t see same intensity and drive by our team as opposed to what I saw with Bridges, CamJ, Crowder, CP3 back in 2021.

I disagree, we have plenty of guys in that Bruce Brown archetype, on paper we made some damn solod moves to fill out the roster around the big 3 to do the dirty work.

So far they haven't performed like Bruce Brown, but the stars have been in and out of the lineup all season. None of the role players has really had a consistent role or minutes profile outside of Nurk, think we gotta give it time before we can definitively judge.

[ArksNetsSince99]

That’s why I never liked Beal trade , you need guys like DFS or Bruce Browns of the league to give you that hard nosed defensive presence without compromising much on offense

Daniel Theis who went recently to the Clippers for cheap , ilike this guy as well

Well said ARK.. every contending team needs guys like Brown, DFS, Tucker (2-3 years ago), maybe Caruso, guys who play tough nosed defense and can nail corner shots or come through for putbacks like Bruce Brown. Sadly Suns don’t have those type of players which will make it extremely difficult in advancing further in the playoffs. I don’t see same intensity and drive by our team as opposed to what I saw with Bridges, CamJ, Crowder, CP3 back in 2021.

Those kind of players don't grow on trees and they normally can't be found for around the league minimum but this is what happens when you throw close to 150m into your starting 3. You just don't have the ability to sign the mid tier players to your roster.

Nets supposedly shopped DFS , but not sure how much truth is to it , it was announced on New’s board here

[sashaturiaf]

That’s why I never liked Beal trade , you need guys like DFS or Bruce Browns of the league to give you that hard nosed defensive presence without compromising much on offense

Daniel Theis who went recently to the Clippers for cheap , ilike this guy as well

Well said ARK.. every contending team needs guys like Brown, DFS, Tucker (2-3 years ago), maybe Caruso, guys who play tough nosed defense and can nail corner shots or come through for putbacks like Bruce Brown. Sadly Suns don’t have those type of players which will make it extremely difficult in advancing further in the playoffs. I don’t see same intensity and drive by our team as opposed to what I saw with Bridges, CamJ, Crowder, CP3 back in 2021.

Those kind of players don't grow on trees and they normally can't be found for around the league minimum but this is what happens when you throw close to 150m into your starting 3. You just don't have the ability to sign the mid tier players to your roster.

Bruce Brown was a merry minimum throw in when he busted out as a Net as well, same with Finney Smith on the Mavs. I don't see how they're better prospects than the likes of Little, Yuta KBD and the like.

Those guys were only valuable because they learned how to play off the gravity of the stars around them. Bruce Brown played off Harden and DFS played off Luka who are both masterful playmakers. It's early days for us and our point guard in Book is still just taking the reigns himself so we need to give it some time

[ArksNetsSince99]

That’s why I never liked Beal trade , you need guys like DFS or Bruce Browns of the league to give you that hard nosed defensive presence without compromising much on offense

Daniel Theis who went recently to the Clippers for cheap , ilike this guy as well

Well said ARK.. every contending team needs guys like Brown, DFS, Tucker (2-3 years ago), maybe Caruso, guys who play tough nosed defense and can nail corner shots or come through for putbacks like Bruce Brown. Sadly Suns don’t have those type of players which will make it extremely difficult in advancing further in the playoffs. I don’t see same intensity and drive by our team as opposed to what I saw with Bridges, CamJ, Crowder, CP3 back in 2021.

I disagree, we have plenty of guys in that Bruce Brown archetype, on paper we made some damn solod moves to fill out the roster around the big 3 to do the dirty work.

So far they haven't performed like Bruce Brown, but the stars have been in and out of the lineup all season. None of the role players has really had a consistent role or minutes profile outside of Nurk, think we gotta give it time before we can definitively judge.

No , you don’t, Bruce Brown was the best Net in that infamous Boston sweep both defensively and offensively

Then he went for cheap to the Nuggets and helped them won a ring , we can’t deny he was a big part of that championship

I don’t watch Suns a lot , I’ll admit but who you got on BB level ? I’m not comparing him to Booker or KD but the guy for dirty work , deflections ,hustle , running after loose balls , defense , not limited on offense WHO ?

[ArksNetsSince99]

Well said ARK.. every contending team needs guys like Brown, DFS, Tucker (2-3 years ago), maybe Caruso, guys who play tough nosed defense and can nail corner shots or come through for putbacks like Bruce Brown. Sadly Suns don’t have those type of players which will make it extremely difficult in advancing further in the playoffs. I don’t see same intensity and drive by our team as opposed to what I saw with Bridges, CamJ, Crowder, CP3 back in 2021.

Those kind of players don't grow on trees and they normally can't be found for around the league minimum but this is what happens when you throw close to 150m into your starting 3. You just don't have the ability to sign the mid tier players to your roster.

Bruce Brown was a merry minimum throw in when he busted out as a Net as well, same with Finney Smith on the Mavs. I don't see how they're better prospects than the likes of Little, Yuta KBD and the like.

Those guys were only valuable because they learned how to play off the gravity of the stars around them. Bruce Brown played off Harden and DFS played off Luka who are both masterful playmakers. It's early days for us and our point guard in Book is still just taking the reigns himself so we need to give it some time

You know I like Yuta , but tell me you didn’t just compared Yuta to Bruce Brown or DFS ? You did ? WOW

[ArksNetsSince99]

Well said ARK.. every contending team needs guys like Brown, DFS, Tucker (2-3 years ago), maybe Caruso, guys who play tough nosed defense and can nail corner shots or come through for putbacks like Bruce Brown. Sadly Suns don’t have those type of players which will make it extremely difficult in advancing further in the playoffs. I don’t see same intensity and drive by our team as opposed to what I saw with Bridges, CamJ, Crowder, CP3 back in 2021.

Those kind of players don't grow on trees and they normally can't be found for around the league minimum but this is what happens when you throw close to 150m into your starting 3. You just don't have the ability to sign the mid tier players to your roster.

Bruce Brown was a merry minimum throw in when he busted out as a Net as well, same with Finney Smith on the Mavs. I don't see how they're better prospects than the likes of Little, Yuta KBD and the like.

Those guys were only valuable because they learned how to play off the gravity of the stars around them. Bruce Brown played off Harden and DFS played off Luka who are both masterful playmakers. It's early days for us and our point guard in Book is still just taking the reigns himself so we need to give it some time

Sasha that’s tells me you didn’t watched any Nets games this season , we are 13-10 , without DFS we would be probably around 7-16 , he won at least 5-6 games both defensively and offensively


Yuta gets hot and can win you occasional game , I agree we liked him in Brooklyn but no way he’s on DFS level , not even close

[enigmatics]

He was talking last year. Brooklyn has played the 10th toughest schedule and 4th toughest in the east.

Ignoring their SOS, they are on a 46 win pace right now.

That’s why I never liked Beal trade , you need guys like DFS or Bruce Browns of the league to give you that hard nosed defensive presence without compromising much on offense

Daniel Theis who went recently to the Clippers for cheap , ilike this guy as well

Well said ARK.. every contending team needs guys like Brown, DFS, Tucker (2-3 years ago), maybe Caruso, guys who play tough nosed defense and can nail corner shots or come through for putbacks like Bruce Brown. Sadly Suns don’t have those type of players which will make it extremely difficult in advancing further in the playoffs. I don’t see same intensity and drive by our team as opposed to what I saw with Bridges, CamJ, Crowder, CP3 back in 2021.

Well it's entirely possible either Grayson Allen or Nasir Little become that guy for them.

That being said they still need a second bench guy to materialize because most of these guys haven't been worth a damn.

[sunsbg]

Those kind of players don't grow on trees and they normally can't be found for around the league minimum but this is what happens when you throw close to 150m into your starting 3. You just don't have the ability to sign the mid tier players to your roster.

Bruce Brown was a merry minimum throw in when he busted out as a Net as well, same with Finney Smith on the Mavs. I don't see how they're better prospects than the likes of Little, Yuta KBD and the like.

Those guys were only valuable because they learned how to play off the gravity of the stars around them. Bruce Brown played off Harden and DFS played off Luka who are both masterful playmakers. It's early days for us and our point guard in Book is still just taking the reigns himself so we need to give it some time

You know I like Yuta , but tell me you didn’t just compared Yuta to Bruce Brown or DFS ? You did ? WOW

Yuta's been a disappointment, thought he's more versatile after his performance in World Cup, but whether on him or Vogel, he's just an average corner 3pt shooter in NBA. KBD looks like a scrub even in the way he moves and has played as such. Maybe there is something in Little and Goodwin that resembles Brown's energy and overall play, Okogie on defense, but that's about it when it comes to the min guys.

[SunsRback4Good]

Well said ARK.. every contending team needs guys like Brown, DFS, Tucker (2-3 years ago), maybe Caruso, guys who play tough nosed defense and can nail corner shots or come through for putbacks like Bruce Brown. Sadly Suns don’t have those type of players which will make it extremely difficult in advancing further in the playoffs. I don’t see same intensity and drive by our team as opposed to what I saw with Bridges, CamJ, Crowder, CP3 back in 2021.

I disagree, we have plenty of guys in that Bruce Brown archetype, on paper we made some damn solod moves to fill out the roster around the big 3 to do the dirty work.

So far they haven't performed like Bruce Brown, but the stars have been in and out of the lineup all season. None of the role players has really had a consistent role or minutes profile outside of Nurk, think we gotta give it time before we can definitively judge.

No , you don’t, Bruce Brown was the best Net in that infamous Boston sweep both defensively and offensively

Then he went for cheap to the Nuggets and helped them won a ring , we can’t deny he was a big part of that championship

I don’t watch Suns a lot , I’ll admit but who you got on BB level ? I’m not comparing him to Booker or KD but the guy for dirty work , deflections ,hustle , running after loose balls , defense , not limited on offense WHO ?

I suppose many Suns fans would choose Josh Okogie as our glue guy that does all the little things on defense he definitely passes the eye test in that area. But offensively, he’s very limited especially when his three point shot isn’t falling. I assumed he’d be a perfect starter last season before the postseason, Monty even had him start dozens of games and he was a dog on defense who can nail threes. But once playoffs rolled around the nerves set in and Josh couldn’t nail a shot. His minutes dropped heavily and he hasn’t been a good or at least a decent shooter ever since.

[SunsRback4Good]

Those kind of players don't grow on trees and they normally can't be found for around the league minimum but this is what happens when you throw close to 150m into your starting 3. You just don't have the ability to sign the mid tier players to your roster.

Bruce Brown was a merry minimum throw in when he busted out as a Net as well, same with Finney Smith on the Mavs. I don't see how they're better prospects than the likes of Little, Yuta KBD and the like.

Those guys were only valuable because they learned how to play off the gravity of the stars around them. Bruce Brown played off Harden and DFS played off Luka who are both masterful playmakers. It's early days for us and our point guard in Book is still just taking the reigns himself so we need to give it some time

Sasha that’s tells me you didn’t watched any Nets games this season , we are 13-10 , without DFS we would be probably around 7-16 , he won at least 5-6 games both defensively and offensively


Yuta gets hot and can win you occasional game , I agree we liked him in Brooklyn but no way he’s on DFS level , not even close

Give me DFS over Yuta any day of the week. I still recall what he did to the Suns couple years ago in playoffs along with Brunson & Luka. With DFS the Mavs were top 12 in defense, but without him are 21st right now.

[ArksNetsSince99]

I disagree, we have plenty of guys in that Bruce Brown archetype, on paper we made some damn solod moves to fill out the roster around the big 3 to do the dirty work.

So far they haven't performed like Bruce Brown, but the stars have been in and out of the lineup all season. None of the role players has really had a consistent role or minutes profile outside of Nurk, think we gotta give it time before we can definitively judge.

No , you don’t, Bruce Brown was the best Net in that infamous Boston sweep both defensively and offensively

Then he went for cheap to the Nuggets and helped them won a ring , we can’t deny he was a big part of that championship

I don’t watch Suns a lot , I’ll admit but who you got on BB level ? I’m not comparing him to Booker or KD but the guy for dirty work , deflections ,hustle , running after loose balls , defense , not limited on offense WHO ?

I suppose many Suns fans would choose Josh Okogie as our glue guy that does all the little things on defense he definitely passes the eye test in that area. But offensively, he’s very limited especially when his three point shot isn’t falling. I assumed he’d be a perfect starter last season before the postseason, Monty even had him start dozens of games and he was a dog on defense who can nail threes. But once playoffs rolled around the nerves set in and Josh couldn’t nail a shot. His minutes dropped heavily and he hasn’t been a good or at least a decent shooter ever since.

Maybe you have those guys , like you said Okogie or Little , somebody else mentioned Grayson Allen , no he’s not THAT guy in my opinion

But my question is if you have those guys why they don’t perform every game ? I watched every Nets game and Brown was most steady guy while he was in Brooklyn, you just knew what you got from him every single night , the same is with DFS , always gives his 110%

Yuta , honestly I’m surprised by his performance on the Suns , on the Nets he was 50% of Browns offense so not bad , shooting three’s occasionally driving , not a bad passer and on a good nights he was 70% of Browns defense , hustling like crazy , deflecting the ball grabbing loose balls , he wasn’t Brown but he was solid
His problem was consistency, you knew what you were getting from Brown , Yuta was hit or miss night

[Crives]

How Eubanks -18 in 4mins?? Lol

[ArksNetsSince99]

That’s why I never liked Beal trade , you need guys like DFS or Bruce Browns of the league to give you that hard nosed defensive presence without compromising much on offense

Daniel Theis who went recently to the Clippers for cheap , ilike this guy as well

Well said ARK.. every contending team needs guys like Brown, DFS, Tucker (2-3 years ago), maybe Caruso, guys who play tough nosed defense and can nail corner shots or come through for putbacks like Bruce Brown. Sadly Suns don’t have those type of players which will make it extremely difficult in advancing further in the playoffs. I don’t see same intensity and drive by our team as opposed to what I saw with Bridges, CamJ, Crowder, CP3 back in 2021.

Well it's entirely possible either Grayson Allen or Nasir Little become that guy for them.

That being said they still need a second bench guy to materialize because most of these guys haven't been worth a damn.

Maybe Metu , it was very small sample size I saw of him but I liked what I saw , maybe he is THAT guy