NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (continued)

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Who is leading the race for MVP? (players listed in alphabetical order)

Giannis Antetokounmpo
50
17%
Luka Doncic
45
15%
Kevin Durant
1
0%
Anthony Edwards
3
1%
Joel Embiid
61
21%
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
41
14%
Tyrese Haliburton
8
3%
Nikola Jokic
64
22%
Jayson Tatum
7
2%
Other (Kawhi, Curry, Booker, Fox, Gobert, LeBron, AD, Etc.)
11
4%
 
Total votes: 291

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Re: NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (continued) 

Post#341 » by brettski » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:01 am

dygaction wrote:
Hussien Fatal wrote:Embiid 41 in 31 minutes. Not sure how anybody doesn’t have him as the front runner. On the season he’s scoring just under a point per minute just absurd production and impact.


Beating down Pistons with 41 pts are far less impressive than Giannis beating down vice champion scoring 64 points


Embiiid's game somewhat overshadowed today.
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Re: NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (continued) 

Post#342 » by Chokic » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:02 am

Embiid is now pulling away as the frontrunner in the mvp race.

1. Embiid


2. Shai
3. Jokic
4. Giannis
5. Hali
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Post#343 » by Packbuckman » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:03 am

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Packbuckman wrote::D
bigboi wrote:
This is a fact. We’re literally the only team that somehow stops him. Dude just went 18/26 for nearly 60. Insanity


Giannis has never played like he is right now his free throw shooting looks so smooth the Celtics only hope is he goes back to shooting 50% from the line


His free throws close to career lows. Think the bigger factor is his finishing being back to normal and no more knee issues. Last year, he wasn’t the same finisher at all. Dude is literally unstoppable near the rim. If he stopped shooting threes, he’d be even more


Don’t look at season average he started in the 50% I am talking how he’s playing now these last 7 gms have been special especially from the line they all look like they are going in no more air balls and if he’s even at 70% no one is beating them.
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Post#344 » by Infinite Llamas » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:19 am

Packbuckman wrote::D
bigboi wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:
Except against the C’s :wink:


This is a fact. We’re literally the only team that somehow stops him. Dude just went 18/26 for nearly 60. Insanity


Giannis has never played like he is right now his free throw shooting looks so smooth the Celtics only hope is he goes back to shooting 50% from the line


It’s not really the free throws though. Giannis against the C’s misses bunnies and it’s why it sometimes looks like he has a mental block against them. It helps the Celtics are allowed to play more physically and probably get called for less contact than most teams. I won’t deny that advantage. But sometimes Giannis just flat out looks shook against the C’s.
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Post#345 » by eyeatoma » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:28 am

Over 30 fts for Giannis. But Embiid is a FT merchant lol.

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Post#346 » by dygaction » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:43 am

eyeatoma wrote:Over 30 fts for Giannis. But Embiid is a FT merchant lol.

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They are top two merchants. Difference is with Giannis, many opposing team players are always on the ground to lead to his fts; with Embiid, he is always on the ground to lead to his fts.
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Post#347 » by eyeatoma » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:46 am

dygaction wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Over 30 fts for Giannis. But Embiid is a FT merchant lol.

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They are top two merchants. Difference is with Giannis, many opposing team players are always on the ground to lead to his fts; with Embiid, he is always on the ground to lead to his fts.
And how about the Stat padding accusations?

Embiid could have easily gotten 60. He has sat 1/3 of games this season because he has been so dominant.

Meanwhile..


Read on Twitter
?t=E8F3xUsr3-E4bP1Az-RA-w&s=19

I like Giannis but since that speech last year when they lost in the playoffs I'm not so sure. Also that weird incident with the ladder with the poor arena worker and Harrell... Dude can be pretty aggressive.

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Post#348 » by dygaction » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:51 am

eyeatoma wrote:
dygaction wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Over 30 fts for Giannis. But Embiid is a FT merchant lol.

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They are top two merchants. Difference is with Giannis, many opposing team players are always on the ground to lead to his fts; with Embiid, he is always on the ground to lead to his fts.
And how about the Stat padding accusations?

Embiid could have easily gotten 60. He has sat 1/3 of games this season because he has been so dominant.

Meanwhile..


Read on Twitter
?t=E8F3xUsr3-E4bP1Az-RA-w&s=19

I like Giannis but since that speech last year when they lost in the playoffs I'm not so sure. Also that weird incident with the ladder with the poor arena worker and Harrell... Dude can be pretty aggressive.

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I am not against anyone for stat padding, in regular season or playoffs. If someone can play over 48mpg for a full season like Wilt and remain healthy when needed, he would get my full respect.
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Post#349 » by Wolfgang630 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:55 am

Why does Embiid and Giannis get so many free throws and Jokic will have zero free throws by half time.
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Post#350 » by eyeatoma » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:55 am

dygaction wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
dygaction wrote:
They are top two merchants. Difference is with Giannis, many opposing team players are always on the ground to lead to his fts; with Embiid, he is always on the ground to lead to his fts.
And how about the Stat padding accusations?

Embiid could have easily gotten 60. He has sat 1/3 of games this season because he has been so dominant.

Meanwhile..


Read on Twitter
?t=E8F3xUsr3-E4bP1Az-RA-w&s=19

I like Giannis but since that speech last year when they lost in the playoffs I'm not so sure. Also that weird incident with the ladder with the poor arena worker and Harrell... Dude can be pretty aggressive.

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I am not against anyone for stat padding, in regular season or playoffs. If someone can play over 48mpg for a full season like Wilt and remain healthy when needed, he would get my full respect.
You might be an exception. Here about that ish all the time on this thread and the GB.

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Post#351 » by eyeatoma » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:55 am

dygaction wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Over 30 fts for Giannis. But Embiid is a FT merchant lol.

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They are top two merchants. Difference is with Giannis, many opposing team players are always on the ground to lead to his fts; with Embiid, he is always on the ground to lead to his fts.
Giannis is a battering ram.. Half of his drives are charges.

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Post#352 » by mediocrityrules » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:57 am

dygaction wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
dygaction wrote:
They are top two merchants. Difference is with Giannis, many opposing team players are always on the ground to lead to his fts; with Embiid, he is always on the ground to lead to his fts.
And how about the Stat padding accusations?

Embiid could have easily gotten 60. He has sat 1/3 of games this season because he has been so dominant.

Meanwhile..


Read on Twitter
?t=E8F3xUsr3-E4bP1Az-RA-w&s=19

I like Giannis but since that speech last year when they lost in the playoffs I'm not so sure. Also that weird incident with the ladder with the poor arena worker and Harrell... Dude can be pretty aggressive.

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I am not against anyone for stat padding, in regular season or playoffs. If someone can play over 48mpg for a full season like Wilt and remain healthy when needed, he would get my full respect.


I've said in here before that i'm not against stat-padding, but I'm not a fan because you shouldn't risk injury when you don't need to.

Also, note that what was left on our end-of-bench was trash and Griffin didn't want to put them in knowing what would happen. Of course, he puts them in and the lead is cut to 10 with still over 2 minutes left, and he has to put all the starters back in again. There are degrees of stat-padding. This was more where Griffin was being overly cautious to some degree knowing that the Bucks can give up points quickly (which is exactly what they did again).
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Post#353 » by mediocrityrules » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:59 am

dygaction wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Over 30 fts for Giannis. But Embiid is a FT merchant lol.

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They are top two merchants. Difference is with Giannis, many opposing team players are always on the ground to lead to his fts; with Embiid, he is always on the ground to lead to his fts.


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Post#354 » by Infinite Llamas » Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:09 am

mediocrityrules wrote:
dygaction wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:And how about the Stat padding accusations?

Embiid could have easily gotten 60. He has sat 1/3 of games this season because he has been so dominant.

Meanwhile..


Read on Twitter
?t=E8F3xUsr3-E4bP1Az-RA-w&s=19

I like Giannis but since that speech last year when they lost in the playoffs I'm not so sure. Also that weird incident with the ladder with the poor arena worker and Harrell... Dude can be pretty aggressive.

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I am not against anyone for stat padding, in regular season or playoffs. If someone can play over 48mpg for a full season like Wilt and remain healthy when needed, he would get my full respect.


I've said in here before that i'm not against stat-padding, but I'm not a fan because you shouldn't risk injury when you don't need to.

Also, note that what was left on our end-of-bench was trash and Griffin didn't want to put them in knowing what would happen. Of course, he puts them in and the lead is cut to 10 with still over 2 minutes left, and he has to put all the starters back in again. There are degrees of stat-padding. This was more where Griffin was being overly cautious to some degree knowing that the Bucks can give up points quickly (which is exactly what they did again).


I mean, from what I’ve observed with many teams over the years is that the team that is up will generally pull players at intervals. The stars go out first and then a couple more starters and then another one so it’s more of a transition opposed to pulling all the starters at once. That’s just a recipe for disaster. For the C’s, Derrick White is usually the last one to be pulled in these situations. But yeah, it’s better to stagger pulling players.
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Post#355 » by Hussien Fatal » Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:17 am

Big respect for Giannis scoring 64 tonight. This type of game puts him right there with Jokic but still behind Embiid for the MVP.
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Post#356 » by Hussien Fatal » Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:19 am

Embiid is averaging 33.8ppg in 34.4mpg what he is doing on a per minute basis is just incredible. Even his haters can’t deny how impressive that is.

The last 4 games he has played 135 minutes and has scored 163 points. Incredible.
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Post#357 » by bigboi » Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:27 am

This thread is just stan wars. No objective analysis.
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Post#358 » by CobraCommander » Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:28 am

eyeatoma wrote:
dygaction wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Over 30 fts for Giannis. But Embiid is a FT merchant lol.

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They are top two merchants. Difference is with Giannis, many opposing team players are always on the ground to lead to his fts; with Embiid, he is always on the ground to lead to his fts.
And how about the Stat padding accusations?

Embiid could have easily gotten 60. He has sat 1/3 of games this season because he has been so dominant.

Meanwhile..


Read on Twitter
?t=E8F3xUsr3-E4bP1Az-RA-w&s=19

I like Giannis but since that speech last year when they lost in the playoffs I'm not so sure. Also that weird incident with the ladder with the poor arena worker and Harrell... Dude can be pretty aggressive.

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Dude had 64 and the team record for a team that included one of the goat candidates in KAJ-

Giannis gives away 20k sneakers to random fans and all he asking for is memorabilia that he made valuable and you hating on that?

This is low bro - be better lol

Don’t let your love of Embiid blind you to the fact that Giannis can’t have loser energy when dude has already climbed Mount Olympus and looked down on everyone… including Embiid- name the award Giannis doesn’t have? How can a man with every nba award be a loser ?

Stop bro
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Post#359 » by eyeatoma » Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:09 am

CobraCommander wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
dygaction wrote:
They are top two merchants. Difference is with Giannis, many opposing team players are always on the ground to lead to his fts; with Embiid, he is always on the ground to lead to his fts.
And how about the Stat padding accusations?

Embiid could have easily gotten 60. He has sat 1/3 of games this season because he has been so dominant.

Meanwhile..


Read on Twitter
?t=E8F3xUsr3-E4bP1Az-RA-w&s=19

I like Giannis but since that speech last year when they lost in the playoffs I'm not so sure. Also that weird incident with the ladder with the poor arena worker and Harrell... Dude can be pretty aggressive.

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Dude had 64 and the team record for a team that included one of the goat candidates in KAJ-

Giannis gives away 20k sneakers to random fans and all he asking for is memorabilia that he made valuable and you hating on that?

This is low bro - be better lol

Don’t let your love of Embiid blind you to the fact that Giannis can’t have loser energy when dude has already climbed Mount Olympus and looked down on everyone… including Embiid- name the award Giannis doesn’t have? How can a man with every nba award be a loser ?

Stop bro
His losing speech was cringe. That ladder **** was not a good look.

This was hilarious, I'd be embarrassed if I was him.

I think he's a great player and he's likeable but there have been a few things recently that have been off putting.

Today's incident definitely reeked of pettiness and loser energy. Running after someone into the tunnel? What are you in elementary school?

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Re: NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (continued) 

Post#360 » by mediocrityrules » Thu Dec 14, 2023 7:34 am

bigboi wrote:This thread is just stan wars. No objective analysis.


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