BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely

[___Rand___]

What I thought initially to be the hammer coming down on Green may be more like "sir Draymond, please consider our recommendation and do what you will ":


Per Woj:

Draymond Green, Warriors GM Mike Dunleavy Jr., and Green’s agent Rich Paul of Klutch Sports are expected to meet Thursday to start discussing a path of counseling and help for Green to move forward, sources said. The league didn’t want to put a specific number on the suspension, but allow Green to take the time he might need to deal with challenges he’s facing.

As some surmised or speculated, this looks like a delay tactic, until such time that the news cycle has moved onto other things and then the league and Warriors will come up with some soft number. They are already letting him practice with the team instead of serving a SUSPENSION.

This sounds to me like the league is treating this more like a "medical issue" rather than a disciplinary action. It should be both.

Silver with some political magic act here - save face with the public, and appease his master the Warriors owner and organization. SMH.

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[SpreeS]

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So you meet with a player's agent when deciding his punishment? It seems to me they're trying to somewhat absolve him by pushing the notion he has an emotional issue he can't control. The way they are framing it is favorable to Draymond, imo.

He isn't losing control, he thinks he's going to get away with dirty shots by pretending they were natural movements. But he's so damn ham-handed about it.

The CBA allows them to suspend him but he also has the right to file a grievance through the NBPA if he feels the punishment is unjust. If Silver just came out, suspended him indefinitely and provided all the conditions for his return, Draymond would jus take them to arbitration. They're involving him and his representatives so that they can come to a "consensus" with Draymond on the path forward to get around this and not have to go through arbitration with him - where he likely wins tbh.

I think folks too easily forget that we're dealing with labor issues and millions of dollars here. You can't just put him on timeout to teach him a lesson. This is the real world with laws and regulations.

So NBPA must protect own players…Which side? Green or Poole/Gobert/Nurkic/Sabonis and future victims?

[ForeverTFC]

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So you meet with a player's agent when deciding his punishment? It seems to me they're trying to somewhat absolve him by pushing the notion he has an emotional issue he can't control. The way they are framing it is favorable to Draymond, imo.

He isn't losing control, he thinks he's going to get away with dirty shots by pretending they were natural movements. But he's so damn ham-handed about it.

The CBA allows them to suspend him but he also has the right to file a grievance through the NBPA if he feels the punishment is unjust. If Silver just came out, suspended him indefinitely and provided all the conditions for his return, Draymond would jus take them to arbitration. They're involving him and his representatives so that they can come to a "consensus" with Draymond on the path forward to get around this and not have to go through arbitration with him - where he likely wins tbh.

I think folks too easily forget that we're dealing with labor issues and millions of dollars here. You can't just put him on timeout to teach him a lesson. This is the real world with laws and regulations.

So NBPA must protect own players…Which side? Green or Poole/Gobert/Nurkic/Sabonis and future victims?

I think first and foremost, their job is to protect their players' earning power and paychecks. On a micro level, players are probably pissed at Draymond. But on a macro level, they wouldn't want to set a precedent that "indefinite" suspensions without the blessing of the player and his representative is ok. Again, millions and dollars are at stake here.

[BrianFitz]

I feel bad for whoever has to council this scumbag

Yeah ok. Like Draymond is the worst person to ever have to go to mandatory counseling. Some of you people with your pearl clutching is absolutely bananas.

He deserves a severe punishment. But he's not the biggest "scumbag" to ever exist. Jesus.

[clippertown]

I'm sure this has been answered but I cant find any reference. Was this suspension also including forgone pay?

[BrianFitz]

Wish I could assault someone at work and get counseling instead of being fired

It's so disingenuous to act like it's remotely the same thing.

Let's go back and look at just a tiny list of the players who have "assaulted someone at work" that according to your above statement should have been "fired" ...

Bird, Magic, Kareem, Dr. J, Barkley, Shaq, Rodman, KG, Chief, Ainge, Laimbeer, Artest, basically anyone from the malice in the palace, Isiah ...

I don't feel like going on. People don't get fired for getting into fights in sports.

Draymond has a history and it's being dealt with.

If you are out here wishing you can assault people and the only thing holding you back is getting fired then maybe you need some counseling as well.

[SpreeS]

The CBA allows them to suspend him but he also has the right to file a grievance through the NBPA if he feels the punishment is unjust. If Silver just came out, suspended him indefinitely and provided all the conditions for his return, Draymond would jus take them to arbitration. They're involving him and his representatives so that they can come to a "consensus" with Draymond on the path forward to get around this and not have to go through arbitration with him - where he likely wins tbh.

I think folks too easily forget that we're dealing with labor issues and millions of dollars here. You can't just put him on timeout to teach him a lesson. This is the real world with laws and regulations.

So NBPA must protect own players…Which side? Green or Poole/Gobert/Nurkic/Sabonis and future victims?

I think first and foremost, their job is to protect their players' earning power and paychecks. On a micro level, players are probably pissed at Draymond. But on a macro level, they wouldn't want to set a precedent that "indefinite" suspensions without the blessing of the player and his representative is ok. Again, millions and dollars are at stake here.

It isn’t micro level, Poole incident could end as a disaster, like Nurkic on lesser level.

[DC_Melo]

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So you meet with a player's agent when deciding his punishment? It seems to me they're trying to somewhat absolve him by pushing the notion he has an emotional issue he can't control. The way they are framing it is favorable to Draymond, imo.

He isn't losing control, he thinks he's going to get away with dirty shots by pretending they were natural movements. But he's so damn ham-handed about it.

This doesn’t strike me as the agent being invited to discuss what the punishment should be, but rather being informed of exactly what Draymond needs to do to be eligible to return.

[payton2kemp]

His one game suspension for stomping on Sabonis was such a weak suspension. He got away with murder and decided he could keep doing it.

[Ducklett]

I wish you guys came with this energy last season when Mo Wagner of the Magic got punched in the back of the head, knocked out, and the Magic got 10 suspensions for it.

[BrianFitz]

The offender gets counseling service and vacation; the victim gets broken teeth and no time off

He's gonna lose a ton of money.

[jkvonny]

10 +

[jkvonny]

His one game suspension for stomping on Sabonis was such a weak suspension. He got away with murder and decided he could keep doing it.

This.

After trampolining off of Sabonis chest, he should've been suspended for more than 1 game against the Kings in playoffs round 1.

[CraftylikeaFox]

His one game suspension for stomping on Sabonis was such a weak suspension. He got away with murder and decided he could keep doing it.

This.

After trampolining off of Sabonis chest, he should've been suspended for more than 1 game against the Kings in playoffs round 1.

Love that Draymond came out and said he didn't respect Sabonis because he didn't shake hands with him after the series ended too. Draymond's view of the world is certainly an interesting one.

[phanman]

His one game suspension for stomping on Sabonis was such a weak suspension. He got away with murder and decided he could keep doing it.

This.

After trampolining off of Sabonis chest, he should've been suspended for more than 1 game against the Kings in playoffs round 1.

I am not trying to defend his rendition of Stomp of the Yard, but that 1 game suspension was massive. The Kings were up 2-0 heading back to Golden State to potentially nail the coffin. If it wasn't for Looney turning into Moses Malone they probably would have lost instead of extending it to 7 where Steph went nuts.

His post game comments were horrendous. I can see why Silver took the approach of an indefinite suspension. Given his history, him and Dumars can't afford to to take this lightly. Especially given the fact that this his 3rd insane physical alteration within the last 2 years. A majority of NBA guys go an entire career without getting into something like this even once.

[payton2kemp]

His one game suspension for stomping on Sabonis was such a weak suspension. He got away with murder and decided he could keep doing it.

This.

After trampolining off of Sabonis chest, he should've been suspended for more than 1 game against the Kings in playoffs round 1.

I am not trying to defend his rendition of Stomp of the Yard, but that 1 game suspension was massive. The Kings were up 2-0 heading back to Golden State to potentially but the nail the coffin. If it wasn't for Looney turning into Moses Malone they probably would have lost instead of extending it to 7 where Steph went nuts.

His post game comments were horrendous. I can see why Silver took the approach of an indefinite suspension. Given his history, him and Dumars can't afford to to take this lightly. Especially given the fact that this his 3rd insane physical alteration within the last 2 years. A majority of NBA guys go an entire career without getting into something like this even once.

Stomping on a guys chest is just a terrible thing to do, 1 game is nothing. Should've been 3-4 games or the whole series.

Maybe he would've learned his lesson. League needs to be very harsh with this, dude has had like 5 incidents in a year. Poole, Sabonis, Gobert, Nurkic...I'm sure I'm missing something.

The fact that he got nothing from the Poole punch just gave this guy a green light.

[BrianFitz]

Ι don't understand.
You have the old guys in the media glorifying how tough the old NBA was
You got the fans extremely excited every time the smallest "fight" errupts, even though it's usually nothing but words
But then as soon as anyone actually does anything with their hands it's suspensions immediately.

I mean I don't mind either way, for me basketball always meant some low level violence, nothing serious, maybe a couple of bruises.

So take your pick people, what do you actually want? The commissar will oblige.

I want physical violence and physical intimidation completely out of the game as long as the NBA is going to take a hardline on fighting. If the NBA just gave 1 game suspensions for fights, I'd have less issue with Green's antics since he would have already risked a few punches to the face and body slams by now.

But now since the NBA has taken fighting out of the game by really penalizing it, you can't let Green or anyone else get away with antics like what he is doing.

That's a great point.

[payton2kemp]

Ι don't understand.
You have the old guys in the media glorifying how tough the old NBA was
You got the fans extremely excited every time the smallest "fight" errupts, even though it's usually nothing but words
But then as soon as anyone actually does anything with their hands it's suspensions immediately.

I mean I don't mind either way, for me basketball always meant some low level violence, nothing serious, maybe a couple of bruises.

So take your pick people, what do you actually want? The commissar will oblige.

I want physical violence and physical intimidation completely out of the game as long as the NBA is going to take a hardline on fighting. If the NBA just gave 1 game suspensions for fights, I'd have less issue with Green's antics since he would have already risked a few punches to the face and body slams by now.

But now since the NBA has taken fighting out of the game by really penalizing it, you can't let Green or anyone else get away with antics like what he is doing.

That's a great point.

Yup either be like hockey and let the guys just brawl or make it completely harsh and hand out major suspensions, this in between 1 or 2 game suspension stuff is useless.

[payton2kemp]

I wish you guys came with this energy last season when Mo Wagner of the Magic got punched in the back of the head, knocked out, and the Magic got 10 suspensions for it.

This is Draymond, he's has a major history of this BS. Whatever happened that night was a one time thing with Killian Hayes, hasn't happened again. Theres a difference.

[Tottery]

He'll definitely have a real suspension and lose money. Too much pressure on Silver.