2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[HarthorneWingo]

If Mikal is The Guy, then RJ + IQ + 1 RFP

[HopelessKnick]

It looks so, at first it seemed like both sides were willing to let bygones be bygones but after Reddish it seems both sides have given up on ignoring the agency competition between Klutch and CAA.

This isn't good. At all. That means certain opportunities will be blocked.

It's frustrating watching adults behave like children. This is a business

Oh no, this is adults acting like a business. Think like your health insurance preferred networks...

I just don't get how it really works. I mean, my agent works for me and their job would be to get me the most/best deal based on my criteria. Cutting off half the league at any given time is just spiteful to myself...

If it were not for that lawsuit OG would be here already.

I'm actually not convinced about that. It's only intuition but I believe the Knicks likely gauged beforehand what the odds of being able to complete a trade for OG are....I think they only proceeded with the lawsuit after they determined that there is no chance at OG. I think they'd OG over that lawsuit any day of the week.....

But it is kind of annoying to think about how many opportunities are blocked right now....Leon was brought in to bring in stars but it seems with his presence here, half the players are blocked from coming to the Knicks....I don't like the dynamic

[Ma10]

The trade:

Knicks: D. Mitchell and M. Bridges

Nets: Julius Fumble

Cavs: RJ

Fill in every other pieces necessary and don't look back!

[HarthorneWingo]

The trade:

Knicks: D. Mitchell and M. Bridges

Nets: Julius Fumble

Cavs: RJ

Fill in every other pieces necessary and don't look back!

We won't escape without including a draft pick or two. Though Randle could be a solid addition to the Nets. They need a big dawg.

[HuuHaa]

The trade:

Knicks: D. Mitchell and M. Bridges

Nets: Julius Fumble

Cavs: RJ

Fill in every other pieces necessary and don't look back!

And we need to also trade for new "big man" on top of this. We are already small and after these trades even smaller.

[j4remi]

What do yall think Ainge would want for Markkanen?

[j4remi]

What if we can facilitate Mitchell to Brooklyn?

I also despise the Knox pick with the fury of a thousand suns

I don't think Brooklyn will work with the Knicks on anything...granted, the Yanks and Red Sox have found ways to make deals, so it's possible.

Dorian Finney-Smith is another guy that i think would be a great addition, but I don't even bother thinking about.

[Lord Commander]

What do yall think Ainge would want for Markkanen?

King's ransom from the Knicks, reasonable package from anyone else.

[Jeffrey]

If Mikal is The Guy, then RJ + IQ + 1 RFP

Rumor last year was that Memphis wanted to give up 4 FRPs for Mikal. Since then he has shown that he can handle being the focal point of the offense and is a top tier defender. You really think his value has plateau since then?

[Jeffrey]

What if we can facilitate Mitchell to Brooklyn?

I also despise the Knox pick with the fury of a thousand suns

I don't think Brooklyn will work with the Knicks on anything...granted, the Yanks and Red Sox have found ways to make deals, so it's possible.

Dorian Finney-Smith is another guy that i think would be a great addition, but I don't even bother thinking about.

if we're trading IQ, Fournier and whoever for a bigger fish.

DFS and Lonnie Walker would be my choice to round out the rotation.

[cgf]

If Mikal is The Guy, then RJ + IQ + 1 RFP

Mikal isn't The Guy. He's exactly the kind of player I love and I'd be thrilled to have him, but we're seeing with the Nets that he doesn't have the self creation to be a top 2 option. That's why the Nets still rely on Dinwiddie in crunch time. He'd be a great fit who helped solidify our lineup, but he wouldn't change our ceiling and giving up both RJ & IQ for him would really handicap our offense...as it would leave Julius & Jalen as our only high level creators.

[WargamesX]

This isn't good. At all. That means certain opportunities will be blocked.

It's frustrating watching adults behave like children. This is a business

Oh no, this is adults acting like a business. Think like your health insurance preferred networks...

I just don't get how it really works. I mean, my agent works for me and their job would be to get me the most/best deal based on my criteria. Cutting off half the league at any given time is just spiteful to myself...

If it were not for that lawsuit OG would be here already.

I'm actually not convinced about that. It's only intuition but I believe the Knicks likely gauged beforehand what the odds of being able to complete a trade for OG are....I think they only proceeded with the lawsuit after they determined that there is no chance at OG. I think they'd OG over that lawsuit any day of the week.....

But it is kind of annoying to think about how many opportunities are blocked right now....Leon was brought in to bring in stars but it seems with his presence here, half the players are blocked from coming to the Knicks....I don't like the dynamic

To be fair the Knicks weren’t an open door to Klutch before Rose officially joined. This org has been in bed with CAA since before Melo came here and Phil was the only real pause in that relationship as he tanked the franchise.

Even if Leon left I doubt the Knicks are going to be running to trade for Klutch players.

[WargamesX]

What do yall think Ainge would want for Markkanen?

King's ransom from the Knicks, reasonable package from anyone else.

I am pretty sure he is going to rob someone, he would just rob the Knicks harder

[HarthorneWingo]

If Mikal is The Guy, then RJ + IQ + 1 RFP

Mikal isn't The Guy. He's exactly the kind of player I love and I'd be thrilled to have him, but we're seeing with the Nets that he doesn't have the self creation to be a top 2 option. That's why the Nets still rely on Dinwiddie in crunch time. He'd be a great fit who helped solidify our lineup, but he wouldn't change our ceiling and giving up both RJ & IQ for him would really handicap our offense...as it would leave Julius & Jalen as our only high level creators.

I think that I'm defining "The Guy" a little differently than you though we both appreciate the same things about his game. I don't think we need him be the guy who can ISO in crunch time. We already have Brunson and Randle for that. We need Mikal's defense and ability to knock down shots. Those skill you mention are exactly what we need. It's what RJ doesn't give us.

OG isn't that kind of player either but I think he would also make us a better team.

[dakomish23]

John Collins is back on the block. Won't cost much at all. Fournier, small salary filler and very little in pick value should do it. He was traded to Utah for Rudy Gay (salary filler) and a 2nd round pick. He was my target if they were going to let Obi go and we get a chance to make that right.

Backup PF plus can play some small ball C next to Randle. Having a solid bounce back season efficiency wise. I felt last year was an outlier b/c his other seasons leading up to it he was solid for a big from 3PT land. Decent PnR threat at 1.24 PPP. For reference Mitch is our best PnR PPP at 1.25.

22 games as a starter - 31 MPG
14.5 PPG 8.6 RPG 0.9 APG 0.6 SPG 1.0 BPG
48.2% on 11.4 FGA
38.3% on 3.7 3PA
75.0% on 2.7 FTA
54.4% EFG 57.3% TS

Not a sexy or splashy move but will def address a need, especially with Mitch out.

[MrDollarBills]

If Mikal is The Guy, then RJ + IQ + 1 RFP

Nets are waiting for Simmons' contract to become an expiring in hopes (futile hopes) of a trade for a star to pair with Bridges. I think there's a higher chance of guys like Royce O'Neale and Dorian Finney Smith being available.

[MrDollarBills]

Oh no, this is adults acting like a business. Think like your health insurance preferred networks...

I just don't get how it really works. I mean, my agent works for me and their job would be to get me the most/best deal based on my criteria. Cutting off half the league at any given time is just spiteful to myself...

If it were not for that lawsuit OG would be here already.

I'm actually not convinced about that. It's only intuition but I believe the Knicks likely gauged beforehand what the odds of being able to complete a trade for OG are....I think they only proceeded with the lawsuit after they determined that there is no chance at OG. I think they'd OG over that lawsuit any day of the week.....

But it is kind of annoying to think about how many opportunities are blocked right now....Leon was brought in to bring in stars but it seems with his presence here, half the players are blocked from coming to the Knicks....I don't like the dynamic

To be fair the Knicks weren’t an open door to Klutch before Rose officially joined. This org has been in bed with CAA since before Melo came here and Phil was the only real pause in that relationship as he tanked the franchise.

Even if Leon left I doubt the Knicks are going to be running to trade for Klutch players.

This is crazy as hell. Dolan needs to make Leon squash this beef.

[MrDollarBills]

John Collins is back on the block. Won't cost much at all. Fournier, small salary filler and very little in pick value should do it. He was traded to Utah for Rudy Gay (salary filler) and a 2nd round pick. He was my target if they were going to let Obi go and we get a chance to make that right.

Backup PF plus can play some small ball C next to Randle. Having a solid bounce back season efficiency wise. I felt last year was an outlier b/c his other seasons leading up to it he was solid for a big from 3PT land. Decent PnR threat at 1.24 PPP. For reference Mitch is our best PnR PPP at 1.25.

22 games as a starter - 31 MPG
14.5 PPG 8.6 RPG 0.9 APG 0.6 SPG 1.0 BPG
48.2% on 11.4 FGA
38.3% on 3.7 3PA
75.0% on 2.7 FTA
54.4% EFG 57.3% TS

Not a sexy or splashy move but will def address a need, especially with Mitch out.

I dunno, Collins is owed like 53m over the next two seasons, and he's a negative defensively. I think the guy is overrated personally but there has to be a better, more cost effective option to add to the froncourt

[HarthorneWingo]

If Mikal is The Guy, then RJ + IQ + 1 RFP

Nets are waiting for Simmons' contract to become an expiring in hopes (futile hopes) of a trade for a star to pair with Bridges. I think there's a higher chance of guys like Royce O'Neale and Dorian Finney Smith being available.

Do you think that Mikal is a No. 2 Guy on a top tier EC team? I think he fits better as a no. 3.

[dakomish23]

John Collins is back on the block. Won't cost much at all. Fournier, small salary filler and very little in pick value should do it. He was traded to Utah for Rudy Gay (salary filler) and a 2nd round pick. He was my target if they were going to let Obi go and we get a chance to make that right.

Backup PF plus can play some small ball C next to Randle. Having a solid bounce back season efficiency wise. I felt last year was an outlier b/c his other seasons leading up to it he was solid for a big from 3PT land. Decent PnR threat at 1.24 PPP. For reference Mitch is our best PnR PPP at 1.25.

22 games as a starter - 31 MPG
14.5 PPG 8.6 RPG 0.9 APG 0.6 SPG 1.0 BPG
48.2% on 11.4 FGA
38.3% on 3.7 3PA
75.0% on 2.7 FTA
54.4% EFG 57.3% TS

Not a sexy or splashy move but will def address a need, especially with Mitch out.

I dunno, Collins is owed like 53m over the next two seasons, and he's a negative defensively. I think the guy is overrated personally but there has to be a better, more cost effective option to add to the froncourt

He's good. He's not great. Fournier is collecting dust. He's got a PO the same year as Brunson Randle (25/26) so maybe he opts out to get a long term deal with less per year. I'm a fan of the 1 3PT 1 BLK 1 STL guys