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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1161 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:15 am

76ciology wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:^^^has Tobias vibes all over again, despite them being vastly different players. Tobias was "just entering his prime" when we traded for him but he never took a considerable leap compared to his last full year in LA.

Not opposed to OG the player, just the idea of trading multiple picks for him THEN paying him $40+ mil/year. That's all-star player package stuff, and OG isn't that and probably never will be.


Yes, but Tobi was the final piece back then. We had Jimmy and Ben who has size and plays big.

While Tobi compliments Ben’s lack of scoring and alot of Ben and Embiid’s game. Tobi has always been part of our best 5 man units, he compliments the team very well. Hell, even him being sort of an ironman (in today’s basketball definition) compliments Biid’s lack of durability and so-so leadership.

That said, if OG looks like THE final piece, then Im all for paying him $45M a year.


I see where you're coming from, it just makes me nervous to go all-in on a player like OG. He hasn't developed an offensive game that can be relied upon. That's the big thing that separates him from someone like Mikal Bridges, for example. I'd also rather take a flier on Jerami Grant for the same reason. Not to mention OG averages ~60 GP per season, which isn't terrible, but just another factor that gives me pause when evaluating the entire picture of acquiring him.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1162 » by Mik317 » Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:49 am

TBF Bridges didn't show out until getting to BK either and he stjll may be overtasked for that
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1163 » by Negrodamus » Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:48 pm

I love reading the Laker fan's trade proposal for Zach LaVine. They want the Bulls to give THEM a first round pick for taking on LaVine, lmao.

Tbf, I value LaVine as a toxic asset, but obviously the rest of the league doesn't and it sounds like the Lakers very much want him. It's also funny watching fans of a team (that is filled with guys entering their prime on discount contracts because of the Lakers/LeBron element) complain about giving up too much.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1164 » by Stanford » Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:51 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I love reading the Laker fan's trade proposal for Zach LaVine. They want the Bulls to give THEM a first round pick for taking on LaVine, lmao.


I'd want the same thing
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1165 » by Negrodamus » Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:53 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:I love reading the Laker fan's trade proposal for Zach LaVine. They want the Bulls to give THEM a first round pick for taking on LaVine, lmao.


I'd want the same thing


Well yea, but you're one of the other 29 teams in the league that doesn't like LaVine. I'm sure it's less than that, but I think everyone knows it's the Lakers to lose.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1166 » by FireMorey » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:22 pm

Saw some Sixers fans clamoring for Bojan last night.
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Post#1167 » by AI_Efficiency » Thu Dec 14, 2023 5:52 pm

Is everything we have enough to get OG Anuoby? Rumors were that Toronto was rejecting 3-4 first round pick offers last year, but now he’s only got 1 year left and might not re-sign. I have to assume he’s cheaper as a result. I feel like he’s the perfect fit and a good age.
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Post#1168 » by 76ciology » Thu Dec 14, 2023 6:31 pm

76ciology wrote:Now, let’s explore trading for OG.

What would be our team's weakness if we trade Robert Covington and picks for OG?

I assume the Raptors prefer Roco over Morris because they seem to want a valuable player in return.

How much better is OG than Roco as a defender? Is it worth trading 3 first-round picks? Seems like currently, you need to give 3 first round picks to win a bid war for OG.

After signing OG to a $35-40M contract and giving up 3 first-round picks, what flexibility remains?

The downside of the trade is that we won't improve our team depth, losing Roco in the process. It also doesn't address the issue of "what if Embiid isn't at 100%?"

Moreover, did we add more length in the trade?

The latest "Thinking Basketball" podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/thinking-basketball/id1428290303?i=1000638246187) highlights the size advantage of recent NBA champions, like the Lakers' Lamar-Pau-Bynum, Bucks' Khris-Giannis-Brolo, Raptors' Siakam-Ibaka-Gasol, Lakers' LeBron-AD-D12, Nuggets' MPJ-Gordon-Jokic, and Warriors' Durant-Draymond-Looney.

Maxey = 6’2”
Melton = 6’3”
OG = 6’7”
Tobias = 6’7”
Embiid = 7’

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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1169 » by NYSixersFan » Thu Dec 14, 2023 9:18 pm

FireMorey wrote:Saw some Sixers fans clamoring for Bojan last night.


I'd rather have the Atlanta Bogdonovic
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Post#1170 » by 76ciology » Fri Dec 15, 2023 3:41 am

Do you guys also think we’re trying to pattern the team like a hybrid Raptors-Nuggets?
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Post#1171 » by 76ciology » Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:39 am

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Jamal Murray = Maxey
Jokic = Embiid
Aaron Gordon = Tobias Harris or someone who can finish in the paint
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1172 » by 76ciology » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:02 am

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Post#1173 » by elchengue20 » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:07 am

His 3 ball is starting to fall a little more. In that case hes for sure an upgrade over Tobias.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1174 » by Embiid P » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:07 am

I don't get why we'd want Tyus Jones with all of the other small guards on our roster. Right now, it looks like Beverley is a keeper who provides the toughness and swag we need.

My two preferred targets (OG and Caruso) are likely going to be too expensive. I'm sure that other names will become available the closer we get to the trade deadline.
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Post#1175 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:26 am

Og overrated at this point
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Post#1176 » by 76ciology » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:39 am

elchengue20 wrote:His 3 ball is starting to fall a little more. In that case hes for sure an upgrade over Tobias.


He’s an upgrade with or without that 3 ball.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1177 » by 76ciology » Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:43 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Og overrated at this point


Specially for what we’re going to give up for him.

It’s not like Raps is just gonna accept Marcus Morris and picks for him. We need to trade Batum or Roco. So overall it’s just a minimal upgrade relative to what you need to give up.
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Post#1178 » by elchengue20 » Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:00 am

76ciology wrote:
elchengue20 wrote:His 3 ball is starting to fall a little more. In that case hes for sure an upgrade over Tobias.


He’s an upgrade with or without that 3 ball.


Prior to this stretch he was shooting 21 % from 3 for the season, that would be a problem. He's still at 25%.

What i mean is, if he start to shoot a little better, it's so clear he's better than Tobias that i think nobody can dispute it.
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Post#1179 » by 76ciology » Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:21 am

elchengue20 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
elchengue20 wrote:His 3 ball is starting to fall a little more. In that case hes for sure an upgrade over Tobias.


He’s an upgrade with or without that 3 ball.


Prior to this stretch he was shooting 21 % from 3 for the season, that would be a problem. He's still at 25%.

What i mean is, if he start to shoot a little better, it's so clear he's better than Tobias that i think nobody can dispute it.


And what I mean is even if he’s shooting 21% from 3, he’s a clear upgrade than Tobias.

And Siakam on our team is a clear upgrade than OG on our team. Because we added size, solve the scoring problem when Biid is not playing or not 100%, doesnt have spacing issue and still maintain wing depth and will have more draft picks because he’d cost less.
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1180 » by Zumramania » Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:51 am

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FireMorey wrote:Saw some Sixers fans clamoring for Bojan last night.


I'd rather have the Atlanta Bogdonovic


I think Bojan is actually better, he is a bit underrated in my opinion and would fit great into our team because he is like a role player who can score like a star. He doesn't need that much space but he would thrive with the spacing he would get here. He is good in both shooting and driving to the rim, which is not true for guys like Melton and Tobias. And he is strong both physically and mentally, he does not shy away from big moments nor does he get discouraged if he's off to a bad start. He just keeps going. The only reservation I have about him is his defense, I am not sure how good of a defender is he.

Atlanta Bogdanovic is good, surely a more well rounded player than Bojan, but I think he has a bit of a problem with big moments and with defenses focusing on him. At the 2023 World cup he played well until Serbia faced Germany and they defended Bogdanovic well. One could see he got discouraged and looked lost on the court while far lesser players from his team were taking the shots. This is not a good look, it gives off Tobias vibes.

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