2023-2024 Regular Season Game 24: Orlando Magic (16-7) at Boston Celtics (18-5) - 7:30pm

ogmagicfan · Post #521 » by **ogmagicfan** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:38 am

I feel like we should be running a 3-2 not 2-3 zone

Last Guardian · Post #522 » by **Last Guardian** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:38 am

eyriq wrote:
Last Guardian wrote:Literally most of the team is ass tonight but people targeting Moe lol. Agenda much.
Haha he's got a punchable face

It might be tough to reach his face for most people

JF5 · Post #523 » by **JF5** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:38 am

Knightro wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:I think Fultz would probably be a welcome return to take some pressure off of Franchero since Mosley doesn't feel Black is ready to create more yet.

I would prefer if Fultz never played another game for the Magic frankly.

And obviously I feel the opposite way you do.

The Magic have succeeded with Paolo and Franz on the ball, great defense and the bench dominating.

None of those three things happened and we're calling for Fultz? Screw that.

We're going to allow only 4 games where everyone of the starters who shot ridiculously poor determine that?

Fultz was apart of the 6 game winning streak last year with the same guys essentially. You can't tell me he can't adjust his game to fit around these guys.

GameOver25 · Post #524 » by **GameOver25** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:39 am

BlueBalls wrote:I get tired of the uneven performances from Franz & Paolo. These guys are the pillars and need to start bringing it every night.

Yep, time to grow up.

Post #525 » by **Knightro** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:39 am

That last possession that ended in the Franz airballed stepback 3 is why I roll my eyes a little bit at the whole "why don't they use Black as more than a spot shooter?" stuff.

The ball was swung to him, he got closed out on hard and he correctly put the ball on the floor... but once his defender when sailing harmlessly by, he just had ZERO desire to do anything other than immediately pass the ball.

Like those are the opportunities he has to just start trying something for himself.

Aimlessly dribbling near the paint and desperately looking for the first available pass isn't helping anybody.

VFX · Post #526 » by **VFX** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:39 am

20 turnovers = you lose

Post #527 » by **eyriq** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:39 am

Last Guardian wrote:
eyriq wrote:
Last Guardian wrote:Literally most of the team is ass tonight but people targeting Moe lol. Agenda much.
Haha he's got a punchable face

It might be tough to reach his face for most people

Ok, so not really punchable given he'd break the average man, but he's an easy whipping boy

thelead · Post #528 » by **thelead** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:40 am

Why are the starters still in?

Post #529 » by **Bensational** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:40 am

Knightro wrote:
Bensational wrote:That’s fair.

I think it’s fair to also say that we’re playing below capacity, and without depth who are arguably starting calibre.

Imagine if we had WCJ off the bench for this game instead of Moe Wagner?

But again, Moe's been awesome the vast majority of this season. Yes, he's been AWFUL tonight, but he's been extremely good most of the year. Does he deserve to lose his rotation spot? Certainly not.

I have never just been a big fan of how reactionary people are to individual losses. Especially blowout losses.

Sometimes guys just don't play well and it isn't much deeper than that. One horrible effort shouldn't supersede multiple weeks of good play.

I think we’re talking about different things here. I’m just saying WCJ and Fultz are plus players whom we are missing.

I agree with your viewpoint and don’t know how the Magic are going to balance all the pieces and with what kind of diplomacy. My only suggestion would be making guys know that they’ve always got to be on or else someone is ready and hungry for those minutes. Ride the hot hand from night to night.

Post #530 » by **Knightro** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:40 am

JF5 wrote:We're going to allow only 4 games where everyone of the starters who shot ridiculously poor determine that?

Fultz was apart of the 6 game winning streak last year with the same guys essentially. You can't tell me he can't adjust his game to fit around these guys.

Last year has no bearing on this year though.

VFX · Post #531 » by **VFX** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:40 am

I have to say I hate seeing Black out there on defense with other point guards like Cole. We knew it was going to happen

MagicStarwipe · Post #532 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:41 am

Now it's garbage/Okeke time.

Optimus_Steel · Post #533 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:41 am

SOUL wrote:When WCJ comes back I would legit relegate Moe to 3rd stringer.

WCJ/Goga
Paolo/Isaac

Moe can play when Isaac rests or there are specific matchups he can feast on.

Quite an overreaction.

ibraheim718 · Post #534 » by **ibraheim718** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:41 am

Knightro wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:I think Fultz would probably be a welcome return to take some pressure off of Franchero since Mosley doesn't feel Black is ready to create more yet.

I would prefer if Fultz never played another game for the Magic frankly.

And obviously I feel the opposite way you do.

The Magic have succeeded with Paolo and Franz on the ball, great defense and the bench dominating.

None of those three things happened and we're calling for Fultz? Screw that.

You work with what you have. It's a long season. Those guys are coming back and they're going to play.. might as well.

Post #535 » by **Bensational** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:42 am

Suggs 5-9 from 3
Black 2-4 from 3

A taste of the future.

Post #536 » by **SOUL** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:42 am

Optimus_Steel wrote:
SOUL wrote:When WCJ comes back I would legit relegate Moe to 3rd stringer.

WCJ/Goga
Paolo/Isaac

Moe can play when Isaac rests or there are specific matchups he can feast on.

Quite an overreaction.

Who is Moe better than consistently on offense and defense from that four?

Not playing over Paolo
Isaac has WAY more impact even with way less offense
Goga can get exploited in small-ball, sure, but again, way better defense and can be used as a passer
Moe has feasted with Joe Ingles and bullies his way inside.. gives up rebounding and defense.

MagicStarwipe · Post #537 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:42 am

Knightro wrote:
JF5 wrote:We're going to allow only 4 games where everyone of the starters who shot ridiculously poor determine that?

Fultz was apart of the 6 game winning streak last year with the same guys essentially. You can't tell me he can't adjust his game to fit around these guys.

Last year has no bearing on this year though.

Also, last year Fultz wasn't broken. Now he's all hitchy again.

RichCollab · Post #538 » by **RichCollab** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:42 am

Suggs is a warrior. Good to see Black knock some shots down.

Everything else sucked. Glad Fultz didn’t come back as the blame would have been all focused on him.

Post #539 » by **eyriq** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:43 am

Bensational wrote:Suggs 5-9 from 3
Black 2-4 from 3

A taste of the future.

A taste of the future

MagicStarwipe · Post #540 » by **MagicStarwipe** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:43 am

SOUL wrote:
Optimus_Steel wrote:
SOUL wrote:When WCJ comes back I would legit relegate Moe to 3rd stringer.

WCJ/Goga
Paolo/Isaac

Moe can play when Isaac rests or there are specific matchups he can feast on.

Quite an overreaction.

Who is Moe better than consistently on offense and defense from that four?

I guess you don't think we need to have the highest scoring bench in the NBA anymore.