2023-2024 Regular Season Game 24: Orlando Magic (16-7) at Boston Celtics (18-5) - 7:30pm

[SOUL]

Isaac and Goga. There.

In specific matchups? Sure.

Our team's defense and record is way too good with Isaac there. He's a better rebounder and 10x better defender. Goga I think gives you that beef you need as a traditional center if the other team is playing them, which isn't all the time.

Honestly, I think people are sipping the Moe juice quite hard because he started this season hot. He's shooting 12% above his normal average and is an abysmal defender.

Even last year I said this - I love him as a cheat code versus certain lineups.. I do not think you can seriously win with him playing a lot of minutes when in a playoff series. Sorry.

[JF5]

We're going to allow only 4 games where everyone of the starters who shot ridiculously poor determine that?

Fultz was apart of the 6 game winning streak last year with the same guys essentially. You can't tell me he can't adjust his game to fit around these guys.

Last year has no bearing on this year though.

Lol, it's the same core of players. And the guys (Goga, Black) are guys who are absolutely not floor spacers and inferior talent. yet they were able to reel off 9 games in a row.

[ogmagicfan]

I guess you don't think we need to have the highest scoring bench in the NBA anymore.

Nobody is answering who he should play over lol. Can't play all of them.

The reality is that he’s Franz brother so Goga is probably the odd man out if we are assuming Carter isn’t being moved . That’s just the reality if we factor in things that aren’t black and white.

if the Bucks can get away with not giving Giannis' brother serious minutes, Franz has no say in Mo being a part of our rotation, even if he's better than Thansis.

His shortcomings hurt, and are expounded on in the playoffs. It's easier to replace him than it is to replace Goga

If Mo doesnt want to be a 3rd stringer, than he can always leave the Magic

[SloNick Russia]

Every team in the NBA would love to have Fultz in the rotation but not some Magic fans, go figure

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teams must be bangin on our door to trade for him then? oh wait...

What makes you think they are not? He is a high level NBA player you choose to hate for some reason

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[ibraheim718]

You work with what you have. It's a long season. Those guys are coming back and they're going to play.. might as well.

*Of course* they're going to play. And I would put Carter back into the starting lineup if I was making the decision.

But I just don't see the need for Fultz. Outside of another ball handler, he doesn't *really* provide anything they're really missing right now. He is a worse defender than Black. He's a worse and more unwilling shooter than anyone else on roster. And whether it was the knee or something else, he wasn't nearly as effective at the few things (attacking/finishing and midrange jumpers) as he wasn't last year.

So what's the point? He's a free agent to be too. Just send him on his way.

I'm not a big Fultz fan either but I want your team to win.. and right now he would help take some pressure off of Franchero. In the mid-range he can score and get himself some easy buckets to stop runs. I would prefer Mosley take the handcuffs off of Black but that doesn't look like it's going to happen. The starting 5 to start the season was good too.. people forget that.. I want to see it again for a while. It's a win-win because if Fultz can string some games together he'll be easier to trade than just kicking him to the curb when there isn't a need to.

[ogmagicfan]

Mo is the kinda player who gets cut out the rotation when the playoffs start

[SOUL]

The Magic are fools gold this season gentlemen… I’ve tried to be quiet, but if we make playoffs, we get swept…

Your posts would be taken more serious/have less backlash if you didn't show up when we lose or get blown out or when Paolo has bad games lol

[thelead]

Yo, our starting backcourt shot 8-14 from deep and we still got our @$$ kicked

[SOUL]

I guess you don't think we need to have the highest scoring bench in the NBA anymore.

Nobody is answering who he should play over lol. Can't play all of them.

The reality is that he’s Franz brother so Goga is probably the odd man out if we are assuming Carter isn’t being moved . That’s just the reality if we factor in things that aren’t black and white.

Oh, I agree. Goga is a UFA so until or if he's re-signed, Moe will play.

And again, I've loved his play this year when he's on and cooking.. I just think his bad is more bad than other other bigs and very exploitable.

[SloNick Russia]

Mo Wagner scored 27 points last time we played Boston. Just a reminder for those calling for his head.

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[MagicStarwipe]

Isaac and Goga. There.

In specific matchups? Sure.

Our team's defense and record is way too good with Isaac there. He's a better rebounder and 10x better defender. Goga I think gives you that beef you need as a traditional center if the other team is playing them, which isn't all the time.

Honestly, I think people are sipping the Moe juice quite hard because he started this season hot. He's shooting 12% above his normal average and is an abysmal defender.

Even last year I said this - I love him as a cheat code versus certain lineups.. I do not think you can seriously win with him playing a lot of minutes when in a playoff series. Sorry.

You've always been a Moe hater though

I get it, but I feel like Moe is more consistent than Isaac or Goga. Situationally I'd play them over Moe of course. Isaac only has his old defensive impact once every 5 games or so, and usually doesn't provide any offense.

[SloNick Russia]

And with WCJ injuries history we need at least 3 quality centers on the team

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[eyriq]

Turnovers were the story, really

[SOUL]

I get it, but I feel like Moe is more consistent than Isaac or Goga. Situationally I'd play them over Moe of course. Isaac only has his old defensive impact once every 5 games or so, and usually doesn't provide any offense.

We can agree to disagree here - it's probably a moot point, Isaac is made of glass and Goga is an upcoming free agent, I just think that while our bench has been hot, that doesn't mean it's a guaranteed thing, and what can translate game to game more than offense is defense. Relying on a lot of non-defenders to keep it up is a bit risky if we're playing Cole-Ingles-Moe with Franz and another player.

[ibraheim718]

Banchero dribbled the ball way too much tonight.

[SloNick Russia]

Goga will get over 10M per next summer from us or another team

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[MasterGMer]

Lots of fundamental mistakes on defense. That is on the coaching staff. Lots of improvement for Sunday's game. I think they will adjust. We lost on defense and TO. Banchero and Franz need to be more efficient. And our bench has to light it up. If we do all that, we will win Sunday

[VFX]

Yo, our starting backcourt shot 8-14 from deep and we still got our @$$ kicked

Both stars didn’t show up

[thelead]

Goga will get over 10M per next summer from us or another team

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Doubtful if WCJ comes back and eats his minutes.

[Knightro]

I'm not a big Fultz fan either but I want your team to win.. and right now he would help take some pressure off of Franchero. In the mid-range he can score and get himself some easy buckets to stop runs. I would prefer Mosley take the handcuffs off of Black but that doesn't look like it's going to happen. The starting 5 to start the season was good too.. people forget that.. I want to see it again for a while. It's a win-win because if Fultz can string some games together he'll be easier to trade than just kicking him to the curb when there isn't a need to.

You're talking about things Fultz was individually good at *last year* though.

It's a limited sample size, but early on this year Markelle was quite bad in the midrange and saw his already very poor FT and 3PT rates somehow drop to worst guard in the league level bad.

I'm just not sure what he really solves. The defense will be worse. The spacing will be worse. And you're willingly taking the ball out of Paolo and Franz's hands by replacing a guy who doesn't dribble much with a guy who dribbles all the time?

I just don't see the point. And I say that knowing Fultz absolutely is going to return to the starting lineup the moment he's heathly.