BREAKING: NBA Has Suspended Draymond Green Indefinitely

ReginaldDwight · Post #321 » by **ReginaldDwight** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:46 am

It takes months if not years of CBT to really see improvements and it requires being vulnerable and open and for lack of a better term vibing with your therapist.

Ryoga Hibiki · Post #322 » by **Ryoga Hibiki** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:22 am

antonac wrote:I've been a huge Draymond fan for years. Steph was "the guy" but Draymond was the leader of that team, that's rare that an unglamorous, gritty player is the unquestioned locker room guy in a team with so many talents.

actually the emotional leader is rarely the main star.
I rememeber how it was reported that Cartwright was the leader of the first threepeat Bulls

jc23 · Post #323 » by **jc23** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 1:40 pm

Dangun wrote:Are people in here really eating this “need help” bs narrative.. let’s help him guys, he needs help guys, he needs counseling guys lmao gtfoh.. the guy is just a coward thug and knows exactly what he’s doing.. he knows 99% of players won’t fight back, will just get couple thousand $ fine which is measly to dude, and take a few weeks off from work... Steph “just let me know why and how” lmao wtf you mean why and how.. these mofo’s really outta touch with reality and it’s getting real sickening

Personally i think this behavior has always been apart of his character but winning sort of kept the outbursts at bay to a degree. The guy is never remorseful or apologetic (his apology to NUrkic was a joke) for his actions. He also seems to only have these outbursts against players who will not retaliate.

Laimbeer · Post #324 » by **Laimbeer** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:04 pm

Thinking about it, the whole "he needs help" approach could destroy whatever is left of him as a player. It's an acknowledgement that his antics all these years are a serious problem, something he (and his organization) have always brushed off. And he'd always come back as the same, unbridled Draymond.

Now he'll be on a short lease, under a microscope. The first misstep won't be just another in a string of incidents. "Well, he isn't fixed" will be the reaction, likely followed by another indefinite suspension.

MrBigShot · Post #325 » by **MrBigShot** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:20 pm

jc23 wrote:
Dangun wrote:Are people in here really eating this “need help” bs narrative.. let’s help him guys, he needs help guys, he needs counseling guys lmao gtfoh.. the guy is just a coward thug and knows exactly what he’s doing.. he knows 99% of players won’t fight back, will just get couple thousand $ fine which is measly to dude, and take a few weeks off from work... Steph “just let me know why and how” lmao wtf you mean why and how.. these mofo’s really outta touch with reality and it’s getting real sickening

Personally i think this behavior has always been apart of his character but winning sort of kept the outbursts at bay to a degree. The guy is never remorseful or apologetic (his apology to NUrkic was a joke) for his actions. He also seems to only have these outbursts against players who will not retaliate.

My take on it is...maybe he's just kind of a POS.

shrink · Post #326 » by **shrink** » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:31 pm

zimpy27 wrote:This interview is super impressive

Watch on YouTube

Thank you for posting that. I hadn’t seen it, and it made me realize that there is an actual person inside, when I was just seeing a dangerous bully.

Joe Dumars is right - Green has a problem. I still believe he should be held accountable and punished for what he does, but he needs help. If he was simply kicked out of the league, I think he would then assault people in the general public. Punish him, but do what it takes to get him to stop this behavior.

Childs · Post #327 » by **Childs** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 8:41 pm

Draymond Green is expected to return to the Golden State Warriors in the coming days as he nears a return from his indefinite suspension.

Green was suspended indefinitely by the NBA on December 13th since he struck Jusuf Nurkic shortly after his return from his suspension following his choking of Rudy Gobert.

Green will miss his 11th game on Thursday and while there is still no return date set, his return is getting closer.

Green has been participating in individual counseling sessions and periodic virtual meetings that include team, league and union officials designed to chart his progress toward reinstatement.

ImSlower · Post #328 » by **ImSlower** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 8:47 pm

I'll be shocked if he isn't on a podcast within a week of returning, laughing about it all with zero repentance or remorse.

ballzboyee · Post #329 » by **ballzboyee** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 8:48 pm

Over/under on first tech? I give it 10 games on the under.

Onus · Post #330 » by **Onus** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 9:33 pm

ballzboyee wrote:Over/under on first tech? I give it 10 games on the under.

10 games is way too high.

If the line was set at 4 I may take the under.

EmperorLocky · Post #331 » by **EmperorLocky** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 9:36 pm

Draymond Green ready to return after making a tremendous New Year resolution not to assault people.

Cavsfansince84 · Post #332 » by **Cavsfansince84** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 9:36 pm

shrink wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:This interview is super impressive

Watch on YouTube

Thank you for posting that. I hadn’t seen it, and it made me realize that there is an actual person inside, when I was just seeing a dangerous bully.

Joe Dumars is right - Green has a problem. I still believe he should be held accountable and punished for what he does, but he needs help. If he was simply kicked out of the league, I think he would then assault people in the general public. Punish him, but do what it takes to get him to stop this behavior.

No one can make Draymond stop acting this way at this point except for him. If he does something like this on the street then he gets to face the consequences of the court system. Have Kerr and the league done him no favors in the long term by coddling him so much? Yes but Dray is a guy who's felt enabled to act the way he does for a very long time and its up to him to learn to act like a responsible person in how he conducts himself on a court or anywhere else.

Childs · Post #333 » by **Childs** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 9:41 pm

Watch on YouTube

scrabbarista · Post #334 » by **scrabbarista** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 9:59 pm

EmperorLocky wrote:Draymond Green ready to return after making a tremendous New Year resolution not to assault people.

Probably shouldn't laugh because of how close to the truth this is, but... sigh...

theforumblue · Post #335 » by **theforumblue** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:08 pm

Everyone needs to talk a whole lot of trash to him on the court.

GQ Hot Dog · Post #336 » by **GQ Hot Dog** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:33 pm

shrink wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:This interview is super impressive

Watch on YouTube

Thank you for posting that. I hadn’t seen it, and it made me realize that there is an actual person inside, when I was just seeing a dangerous bully.

Joe Dumars is right - Green has a problem. I still believe he should be held accountable and punished for what he does, but he needs help. If he was simply kicked out of the league, I think he would then assault people in the general public. Punish him, but do what it takes to get him to stop this behavior.

Do people really not see Draymond as an "actual person"?

The hyperbole and hate directed toward Draymond has gotten so out of control. It's like going to a Trump rally...

shrink · Post #337 » by **shrink** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:41 pm

GQ Hot Dog wrote:
shrink wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:This interview is super impressive

Watch on YouTube

Thank you for posting that. I hadn’t seen it, and it made me realize that there is an actual person inside, when I was just seeing a dangerous bully.

Joe Dumars is right - Green has a problem. I still believe he should be held accountable and punished for what he does, but he needs help. If he was simply kicked out of the league, I think he would then assault people in the general public. Punish him, but do what it takes to get him to stop this behavior.

Do people really not see Draymond as an "actual person"?

The hyperbole and hate directed toward Draymond has gotten so out of control. It's like going to a Trump rally...

First off, using this thread to take a shot at people with different political views than you seems like a self-gratifying attack .. which is particularly ironic in a discussion of Draymond Green.

Perhaps “actual person” was a bit hyperbolic on my part. I saw his behavior. I saw his choices. I saw a player who was actively trying to hurt other people. I saw a player who had no remorse, and wouldn’t apologize. I saw a player who had repeated this same course of action multiple times. I saw someone who could end another player’s career. When someone chooses those actions, I had a hard time thinking “poor Draymond - I bet he’s struggling with something.” Maybe I should have. So I appreciated hearing Joe Dumars words - it helped me see the issue from another side.

geminiz · Post #338 » by **geminiz** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 10:52 pm

shrink wrote:First off, using this thread to take a shot at people with different political views than you seems like a self-gratifying attack, which is particularly ironic in a discussion of Draymond Green.

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+1000
It's pretty pathetic to just about everyone else but the person who constantly finds ways to shove these political jabs whenever in random unrelated context/places.

Like dude, we get it, and we don't give a f about ur political view.

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NCHeels2008 · Post #339 » by **NCHeels2008** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 11:21 pm

I'm so sick of Green and his BS I wish he would stay on leave

phanman · Post #340 » by **phanman** » Thu Jan 4, 2024 11:40 pm

ImSlower wrote:I'll be shocked if he isn't on a podcast within a week of returning, laughing about it all with zero repentance or remorse.

He actually hasn't pod'd since the off-season. My guess is that the new contract he signed was contingent on him not continuing with it, at least during the regular season. Which sucks because it really was one of the better ones out available.

I really wonder what the plan the Warriors' plan is for him because I just took a look and both Saric and Looney have had their minutes reduced with his absence and the emergence of Trayce and continued development of Kuminga has really made him expendable. 6-4 sounds nice but 3 of those wins were against bottom feeders in Portland x2 and Washington.

His value is at his lowest and I don't even see a good fit currently where he'd push another team over the top. Philly would be interesting to form a ridiculous defensive front court and utilize a lot of the same actions with a two man game w/ Maxey but then thats taking the ball out of their hands.

How many games should Draymond be suspended?