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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#201 » by marthafokker » Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:41 am

MDJ should just get rid of all the vets so Kerr can't skip the kids.

If Kerr beotch about it, let him campaign for Biden.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#202 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:31 am

The problem is not Kerr.
Our starter no longer give full for a full game.
The will to win is gone.The other teams want to in more than we do.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#203 » by floppymoose » Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:08 am

SpreeChokeJob wrote:Myers never did anything besides what Lacob and Kerr wanted him to do. He’s a relationship guy, an agent, an ambassador of Quan.


I had to look that up. I thought it was a Babylon5 reference at first.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#204 » by Sandy333 » Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:48 pm

A coach is supposed to improve the players or make the whole better than sum of the parts. Kerr has not done the former at all and a little bit of the second.
Resting on laurels is not done in this league, warriors are resting from two years and have fallen by the wayside and it's on the coach.
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Post#205 » by Jester_ » Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:48 pm

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:The problem is not Kerr.
Our starter no longer give full for a full game.
The will to win is gone.The other teams want to in more than we do.


If player motivation doesn't fall under a coach's duties, what exactly is the point in them?
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Post#206 » by Old_Blue » Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:53 pm

floppymoose wrote:
SpreeChokeJob wrote:Myers never did anything besides what Lacob and Kerr wanted him to do. He’s a relationship guy, an agent, an ambassador of Quan.


I had to look that up. I thought it was a Babylon5 reference at first.


You never saw Jerry Maguire?

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Post#207 » by vagelis » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:45 pm

Kerr is a big part of the problem.
He seems to have no idea why Warriors are bad.

He needs to change his system, it is not successfully anymore.

The biggest problem this year is that key players feel that they are not trusted and they respond with bad performances.

There is no core this year.
Kerr throws under the bus key players in order to throw the responsibility away from him.
Warriors have not the roster to replace their starters
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Post#208 » by xdrta+ » Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:47 pm

vagelis wrote:Kerr throws under the bus key players in order to throw the responsibility away from him.
Warriors have not the roster to replace their starters


As the premier Wiggins fan here I assume that's who you are referring to. So you think it's Kerr's fault that Wiggins has played poorly? 41% fg%, 26% 3p%, 4 rpg, 12 ppg, his turnovers...all this is Kerr's fault? At some point players have to take responsibility for their own performance.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#209 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:21 am

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SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:The problem is not Kerr.
Our starter no longer give full for a full game.
The will to win is gone.The other teams want to in more than we do.


If player motivation doesn't fall under a coach's duties, what exactly is the point in them?


Motivation is more like height than it is like XS and Os play calling, or offensive and defensive schemes and technique called in practice.

You can’t coach height into existence and you can only slightly coach motivation into existence. You can bench the unmotivated guy like Kerr benching Wiggins as he did the last game. Coaches don’t have much control over motivation.
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Post#210 » by vagelis » Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:36 am

xdrta+ wrote:
vagelis wrote:Kerr throws under the bus key players in order to throw the responsibility away from him.
Warriors have not the roster to replace their starters


As the premier Wiggins fan here I assume that's who you are referring to. So you think it's Kerr's fault that Wiggins has played poorly? 41% fg%, 26% 3p%, 4 rpg, 12 ppg, his turnovers...all this is Kerr's fault? At some point players have to take responsibility for their own performance.



I think that Wiggins should have gained the respect of Kerr the last 4 years.
For 2 months of bad performances should not have been benched imo.
Especially when nobody is good enough to replace him.
Kerr cut Wiggins minutes from the start of the season and I think this is part of the reasons that Wiggins plays bad this season.

Wiggins plays bad when he has not the trust of his coach and does not feel significant.

Thompson had worse performance periods in the last 3 years but he is not benched. And maybe right if Warriors didn't want to part ways with Thompson.

Wiggins took a pay cut when he won the chip with Warriors (as an all star) in order to keep playing with Warriors and this is how Kerr treats treats him now after 2 months of bad performances.
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Post#211 » by CDM_Stats » Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:33 am

Wiggins is playing mostly fine except for his piss-poor shooting, which is entirely his own deal. He's never been a very consistent offensive player.. and also he's handling more than he should

Wiggins, Klay, Looney... all unfortunate victims of unnecessary tinkering
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Post#212 » by floppymoose » Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:14 pm

Wiggins has not been “mostly fine”. He’s been horrible. My theory is that he hasnt been physically right, but whatever it is, he’s been horrible. Not fine. Not average. Not bad. Horrible.

Having him come off the bench has been a great move, especially since it staggers his minutes with Klay more.

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Post#213 » by CDM_Stats » Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:23 pm

floppymoose wrote:Wiggins has not been “mostly fine”. He’s been horrible. My theory is that he hasnt been physically right, but whatever it is, he’s been horrible. Not fine. Not average. Not bad. Horrible.

Having him come off the bench has been a great move, especially since it staggers his minutes with Klay more.

http://www.82games.com/2324/23GSW11.HTM#onoff


lol bc we don’t look at the same things.. certainly not 82games. No different than people citing DRtg.. if that’s how you evaluate individuals, it’s not good

Past 10 games his shooting has come around, his defensive peripherals on in parallel with past 2 seasons, same quality challenge rate, etc etc.. either people understand that he was put in an ideal position before and was inexplicably moved out of it, or they don’t. It can only be explained so many times
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Post#214 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:23 pm

T-Wolves Wiggins often did not play his best. So now Wiggins is not giving the Warriors his best.

I would not assume that there is a phyical injury.

I work more efficiently some months than other months and there is not always an identifiable reason. My co-workers also vary in their efficiency and sharpness.

Wiggins just is not playing ing well. People thought T-Wolves Wiggins was not mentally capable of reliably playing as well as Wiggins has played for the Warriors. So nowhe is playing more like Twolves Wiggins. Let’s just hope he can force himself to play right in the playoffs.
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Post#215 » by floppymoose » Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:58 pm

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floppymoose wrote:Wiggins has not been “mostly fine”. He’s been horrible. My theory is that he hasnt been physically right, but whatever it is, he’s been horrible. Not fine. Not average. Not bad. Horrible.

Having him come off the bench has been a great move, especially since it staggers his minutes with Klay more.

http://www.82games.com/2324/23GSW11.HTM#onoff


lol bc we don’t look at the same things.. certainly not 82games.


I'm looking at Wiggins. I didnt look at 82games until just now, because it's the handy free source of rough on-off. But it's not my main source. My eyes are.

CDM_Stats wrote:Past 10 games...


sure, his recent games have been on an upward trend. I hope it continues. It doesn't change that his overall season to date has been horrible.
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Re: Warriors biggest problem? Their Coach 

Post#216 » by jaymo123 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:34 am

It's official, Kerr is the issue. His substitutions especially when the team is going is confusing the hell out of me right now.
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Post#217 » by Onus » Mon Dec 18, 2023 11:25 pm

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Post#218 » by CDM_Stats » Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:06 am

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lol Jim is so unhinged I'm sure he posts somewhere on this site

He's got some good points if you go beyond the insanity, but he's also got some terrible ones. I've started to tune out because of it.. some of the bad points are just repeated and screamed, and not all that accurate. Frankly of the main talking heads on the Warriors, the one person who did the most legwork and kept his head about it came from this forum but doesnt get the online traction like the screamers do, which sucks
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Post#219 » by Onus » Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:11 am

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lol Jim is so unhinged I'm sure he posts somewhere on this site

He's got some good points if you go beyond the insanity, but he's also got some terrible ones. I've started to tune out because of it.. some of the bad points are just repeated and screamed, and not all that accurate. Frankly of the main talking heads on the Warriors, the one person who did the most legwork and kept his head about it came from this forum but doesnt get the online traction like the screamers do, which sucks

Yea it's just ranting for the most part. But this type of stuff needs to be promoted because Steve has done a horrible job and he needs to know something needs to change.

i commend Jim for trying to spark that change.
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Post#220 » by Romulus » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:16 am

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lol Jim is so unhinged I'm sure he posts somewhere on this site

He's got some good points if you go beyond the insanity, but he's also got some terrible ones. I've started to tune out because of it.. some of the bad points are just repeated and screamed, and not all that accurate. Frankly of the main talking heads on the Warriors, the one person who did the most legwork and kept his head about it came from this forum but doesnt get the online traction like the screamers do, which sucks


Don't always agree with Jim, but he's right about a lot things. It truly is insanity the way Curry is being used -- or ignored. I'm not sure any other superstar would put up with the mentality of getting everyone else going every game, rarely having the ball in his hands, and taking 4 shots in a half. Kerr playing CP3 with Curry? It's a net minus and horrible strategy.

And Jim's biggest take this year? TJD should get minutes because he's better than anything they have at that position. How is he wrong? TJD has been very good in almost every limited opportunity he's had this year. He saved them last night with 14 points and 8 rebounds in less than 20 minutes (when is the last time Looney scored 14 points?). And yet, Kerr still took him out in favor of Looney with the game on the line -- which proves Kerr is still incapable of just seeing what's going on in a game and making the proper adjustments. I'd love to see them play TJD with Saric. It would give them more size and more defense. It seems the reason this doesn't happen is because Kerr prefers to play 3 and 4 guard lineups. That's comedy, stupidity, and that's what Kerr has morphed into these days.

This is a much better team than their record. And their failures are largely do to their coach. Believe it not, close games often come down to coaching. Kerr looks like a guy on his way out the door. I hope that's the case.

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