2023-24 Regular Season

[mcfly1204]

Hey guys, I've got a great idea, let's get our young player's heads filled with negatively and losing. It's cool, because they'll just bounce back next year when we expect them to compete again.

[jasonxxx102]

If a non NBA fan ever asks me what the meaning of a treadmill franchise is, I'll send them to this thread.

Y'all are apparently perfectly fine being mediocre. Yea lets all hope we can get a play in spot only to get blown out in the 1st round. Maybe we can be "competitive"

Fans would rather JB run everyone into the ground trying to be a .500 team than build towards the future and it's sad. Have fun the rest of the season being mediocre. I'll be back when they get swept in the 1st round or bounced in the play in to say I told you so. Then when Mitchell leaves and there's nothing left, it might finally be obvious. Or maybe not, maybe y'all will still be hoping and praying.

[mcfly1204]

If a non NBA fan ever asks me what the meaning of a treadmill franchise is, I'll send them to this thread.

Y'all are apparently perfectly fine being mediocre. Yea lets all hope we can get a play in spot only to get blown out in the 1st round. Maybe we can be "competitive"

Fans would rather JB run everyone into the ground trying to be a .500 team than build towards the future and it's sad. Have fun the rest of the season being mediocre. I'll be back when they get swept in the 1st round or bounced in the play in to say I told you so. Then when Mitchell leaves and there's nothing left, it might finally be obvious. Or maybe not, maybe y'all will still be hoping and praying.

This is such a loser mentality. Did we lose our best player for the year? Is this not just our 26th game of the season? Do we want to usher Mitchell out the door? If you're leaving, maybe think about just not coming back?

[JujitsuFlip]

I think the Cavs make either series competitive. Embiid stops getting his whistle in the playoffs.

If they lose, it's still 3 straight post seasons not making it to the 2nd round.

I'd rather just end the Mitchell experiment and let Garland rest his jaw, Mobley rest his knee, and more than likely Allen rest his ankle.

If this was 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028, or 2029... I would agree with you because tanking wouldn't be beneficial, tanking directly impacts our ping pong balls this season.

Also, if the Cavs were like a 2 or 3 seed currently, i may be more likely to agree with ya.

Given the circumstances, best path forward is pulling the plug on the season.

Even if that were the best idea, you literally have literally no one in the organization from the owner to the last guy on the bench who is going to concede this season.

Eh, you can force their hand a bit...

-Billy Beane: You can't start Peña at first tonight. You'll have to start Hatteberg.

Art Howe: Yeah, I don't want to go fifteen rounds, Billy. The lineup card is mine, and that's all.

Billy Beane: That lineup card is definitely yours. I'm just saying you can't start Peña at first.

Art Howe: Well, I am starting him at first.

Billy Beane: I don't think so. He plays for Detroit now.

Art Howe: You *traded* Peña?

Billy Beane: Yeah. And Menechino, Hiljus, Tam are all being sent down.

[JujitsuFlip]

Hey guys, I've got a great idea, let's get our young player's heads filled with negatively and losing. It's cool, because they'll just bounce back next year when we expect them to compete again.

They're literally 22 and 23 years old, lmfao

Yeah because never making the 2nd round and being on the treadmill is great for morale...

[jasonxxx102]

If a non NBA fan ever asks me what the meaning of a treadmill franchise is, I'll send them to this thread.

Y'all are apparently perfectly fine being mediocre. Yea lets all hope we can get a play in spot only to get blown out in the 1st round. Maybe we can be "competitive"

Fans would rather JB run everyone into the ground trying to be a .500 team than build towards the future and it's sad. Have fun the rest of the season being mediocre. I'll be back when they get swept in the 1st round or bounced in the play in to say I told you so. Then when Mitchell leaves and there's nothing left, it might finally be obvious. Or maybe not, maybe y'all will still be hoping and praying.

This is such a loser mentality. Did we lose our best player for the year? Is this not just our 26th game of the season? Do we want to usher Mitchell out the door? If you're leaving, maybe think about just not coming back?

Yea because winners are first round exit teams for 5 seasons before being bottom dwellers again. Ask the Bulls if they feel like winners right now. They could have blown it up 3 seasons ago but now they have a bunch of assets worth nothing and they’re still bad.

This is just total lack of understanding of how the NBA works. This isn’t LA or Boston, or Miami, or some big name city. This is Cleveland, get a grip. You either build through the draft and get lucky, or be mediocre.

The Cavs have no worthwhile assets for the next half decade, just let that sink in for a second.

Have fun with your “winner” mentality in 3 years when you’re a 30 win team and no hope until 2030.

I’ll be back to remind everyone, don’t you worry

[mcfly1204]

If a non NBA fan ever asks me what the meaning of a treadmill franchise is, I'll send them to this thread.

Y'all are apparently perfectly fine being mediocre. Yea lets all hope we can get a play in spot only to get blown out in the 1st round. Maybe we can be "competitive"

Fans would rather JB run everyone into the ground trying to be a .500 team than build towards the future and it's sad. Have fun the rest of the season being mediocre. I'll be back when they get swept in the 1st round or bounced in the play in to say I told you so. Then when Mitchell leaves and there's nothing left, it might finally be obvious. Or maybe not, maybe y'all will still be hoping and praying.

This is such a loser mentality. Did we lose our best player for the year? Is this not just our 26th game of the season? Do we want to usher Mitchell out the door? If you're leaving, maybe think about just not coming back?

Yea because winners are first round exit teams for 5 seasons before being bottom dwellers again. Ask the Bulls if they feel like winners right now. They could have blown it up 3 seasons ago but now they have a bunch of assets worth nothing and they’re still bad.

This is just total lack of understanding of how the NBA works. This isn’t LA or Boston, or Miami, or some big name city. This is Cleveland, get a grip. You either build through the draft and get lucky, or be mediocre.

The Cavs have no worthwhile assets for the next half decade, just let that sink in for a second.

Have fun with your “winner” mentality in 3 years when you’re a 30 win team and no hope until 2030.

I’ll be back to remind everyone, don’t you worry

Garland and Mobley were clearly not ready for the physicality of the Playoffs last season. We went out and got more shooters, so call me crazy, but I'd rather see what this team can do as opposed to folding less than a third of the way into the season.

[jasonxxx102]

This is such a loser mentality. Did we lose our best player for the year? Is this not just our 26th game of the season? Do we want to usher Mitchell out the door? If you're leaving, maybe think about just not coming back?

Yea because winners are first round exit teams for 5 seasons before being bottom dwellers again. Ask the Bulls if they feel like winners right now. They could have blown it up 3 seasons ago but now they have a bunch of assets worth nothing and they’re still bad.

This is just total lack of understanding of how the NBA works. This isn’t LA or Boston, or Miami, or some big name city. This is Cleveland, get a grip. You either build through the draft and get lucky, or be mediocre.

The Cavs have no worthwhile assets for the next half decade, just let that sink in for a second.

Have fun with your “winner” mentality in 3 years when you’re a 30 win team and no hope until 2030.

I’ll be back to remind everyone, don’t you worry

Garland and Mobley were clearly not ready for the physicality of the Playoffs last season. We went out and got more shooters, so call me crazy, but I'd rather see what this team can do as opposed to folding less than a third of the way into the season.

Which is exactly why the Cavs will be a treadmill franchise at best because you and the rest of the fans and I guess the ownership are totally cool with mediocrity.

It’s obvious to every single person not in the thread that JB is not a good coach, but yea, let’s see some more of it.

I’m sure they can win 2 games in a series this year instead of 1. #progress

[mcfly1204]

Yea because winners are first round exit teams for 5 seasons before being bottom dwellers again. Ask the Bulls if they feel like winners right now. They could have blown it up 3 seasons ago but now they have a bunch of assets worth nothing and they’re still bad.

This is just total lack of understanding of how the NBA works. This isn’t LA or Boston, or Miami, or some big name city. This is Cleveland, get a grip. You either build through the draft and get lucky, or be mediocre.

The Cavs have no worthwhile assets for the next half decade, just let that sink in for a second.

Have fun with your “winner” mentality in 3 years when you’re a 30 win team and no hope until 2030.

I’ll be back to remind everyone, don’t you worry

Garland and Mobley were clearly not ready for the physicality of the Playoffs last season. We went out and got more shooters, so call me crazy, but I'd rather see what this team can do as opposed to folding less than a third of the way into the season.

Which is exactly why the Cavs will be a treadmill franchise at best because you and the rest of the fans and I guess the ownership are totally cool with mediocrity.

It’s obvious to every single person not in the thread that JB is not a good coach, but yea, let’s see some more of it.

I’m sure they can win 2 games in a series this year instead of 1. #progress

Like I said. Loser. Mentality.

[jasonxxx102]

Garland and Mobley were clearly not ready for the physicality of the Playoffs last season. We went out and got more shooters, so call me crazy, but I'd rather see what this team can do as opposed to folding less than a third of the way into the season.

Which is exactly why the Cavs will be a treadmill franchise at best because you and the rest of the fans and I guess the ownership are totally cool with mediocrity.

It’s obvious to every single person not in the thread that JB is not a good coach, but yea, let’s see some more of it.

I’m sure they can win 2 games in a series this year instead of 1. #progress

Like I said. Loser. Mentality.

The best part is that the reality of the NBA doesn’t care about your pretend winner mentality. The rah rah go team cheerleading doesn’t change the situation.

Wish you the best, just remember this in 3 years when you look back at nothing and forward at nothing.

[toooskies]

Which is exactly why the Cavs will be a treadmill franchise at best because you and the rest of the fans and I guess the ownership are totally cool with mediocrity.

It’s obvious to every single person not in the thread that JB is not a good coach, but yea, let’s see some more of it.

I’m sure they can win 2 games in a series this year instead of 1. #progress

Like I said. Loser. Mentality.

The best part is that the reality of the NBA doesn’t care about your pretend winner mentality. The rah rah go team cheerleading doesn’t change the situation.

Wish you the best, just remember this in 3 years when you look back at nothing and forward at nothing.

I don't see a reason anything changes much this postseason besides our first round opponent. If you don't think the core of this team can win a playoff series you may as well pick a different team or new hobby.

[afarmenian]

Like I said. Loser. Mentality.

The best part is that the reality of the NBA doesn’t care about your pretend winner mentality. The rah rah go team cheerleading doesn’t change the situation.

Wish you the best, just remember this in 3 years when you look back at nothing and forward at nothing.

I don't see a reason anything changes much this postseason besides our first round opponent. If you don't think the core of this team can win a playoff series you may as well pick a different team or new hobby.

You really think they can? There is so much evidence to the contrary what are we basing this off of?

[toooskies]

The best part is that the reality of the NBA doesn’t care about your pretend winner mentality. The rah rah go team cheerleading doesn’t change the situation.

Wish you the best, just remember this in 3 years when you look back at nothing and forward at nothing.

I don't see a reason anything changes much this postseason besides our first round opponent. If you don't think the core of this team can win a playoff series you may as well pick a different team or new hobby.

You really think they can? There is so much evidence to the contrary what are we basing this off of?

Most teams lose in the playoffs before they win.

Mitchell having a month being the lead playmaker will be exceptionally good for his game.

Guys like Okoro and Wade having no reason to be passive will be great for them.

We have wins over Philly, Orlando, New York, and Miami already.

Embiid always loses in the first or second round. The Magic roster has like one guy who's played in the playoffs. Milwaukee has nobody to defend Mitchell or Garland.

[JujitsuFlip]

I don't see a reason anything changes much this postseason besides our first round opponent. If you don't think the core of this team can win a playoff series you may as well pick a different team or new hobby.

You really think they can? There is so much evidence to the contrary what are we basing this off of?

Most teams lose in the playoffs before they win.

Mitchell having a month being the lead playmaker will be exceptionally good for his game.

Guys like Okoro and Wade having no reason to be passive will be great for them.

We have wins over Philly, Orlando, New York, and Miami already.

Embiid always loses in the first or second round. The Magic roster has like one guy who's played in the playoffs. Milwaukee has nobody to defend Mitchell or Garland.

The Cavs also have no one to defend Giannis or Dame lol

If Brunson did that to us in 2023, I'd hate to see what Dame could do.

I'm unsure what the obsession is with this "they gotta guard us" mindset. Our offense is terrible, rudimentary, and predictable lol

Cavs are praying 6'1" Mitchell can go nova in a series (if they make it outta the play-in).

Look at the history, outside of covid restrictions, Mitchell has been awful in the playoffs from a shooting efficiency standpoint.

[toooskies]

You really think they can? There is so much evidence to the contrary what are we basing this off of?

Most teams lose in the playoffs before they win.

Mitchell having a month being the lead playmaker will be exceptionally good for his game.

Guys like Okoro and Wade having no reason to be passive will be great for them.

We have wins over Philly, Orlando, New York, and Miami already.

Embiid always loses in the first or second round. The Magic roster has like one guy who's played in the playoffs. Milwaukee has nobody to defend Mitchell or Garland.

The Cavs also have no one to defend Giannis or Dame lol

If Brunson did that to us in 2022, I'd hate to see what Dame could do.

I'm unsure what the obsession is with this "they gotta guard us" mindset. Our offense is terrible, rudimentary, and predictable lol

Cavs are praying 6'1" Mitchell can go nova in a series (if they make it outta the play-in).

Look at the history, outside of covid restrictions, Mitchell has been awful in the playoffs from a shooting efficiency standpoint.

We'll just have to wait and see. If you have to doom-post to mentally prepare yourself for possible negative outcomes, go ahead.

[JujitsuFlip]

Most teams lose in the playoffs before they win.

Mitchell having a month being the lead playmaker will be exceptionally good for his game.

Guys like Okoro and Wade having no reason to be passive will be great for them.

We have wins over Philly, Orlando, New York, and Miami already.

Embiid always loses in the first or second round. The Magic roster has like one guy who's played in the playoffs. Milwaukee has nobody to defend Mitchell or Garland.

The Cavs also have no one to defend Giannis or Dame lol

If Brunson did that to us in 2022, I'd hate to see what Dame could do.

I'm unsure what the obsession is with this "they gotta guard us" mindset. Our offense is terrible, rudimentary, and predictable lol

Cavs are praying 6'1" Mitchell can go nova in a series (if they make it outta the play-in).

Look at the history, outside of covid restrictions, Mitchell has been awful in the playoffs from a shooting efficiency standpoint.

We'll just have to wait and see. If you have to doom-post to mentally prepare yourself for possible negative outcomes, go ahead.

It's just the reality man.

[toooskies]

The Cavs also have no one to defend Giannis or Dame lol

If Brunson did that to us in 2022, I'd hate to see what Dame could do.

I'm unsure what the obsession is with this "they gotta guard us" mindset. Our offense is terrible, rudimentary, and predictable lol

Cavs are praying 6'1" Mitchell can go nova in a series (if they make it outta the play-in).

Look at the history, outside of covid restrictions, Mitchell has been awful in the playoffs from a shooting efficiency standpoint.

We'll just have to wait and see. If you have to doom-post to mentally prepare yourself for possible negative outcomes, go ahead.

It's just the reality man.

Then trade everybody and start over. Why stop at Mitchell?

[jbk1234]

I actually think the Celtics should be pretty worried about how we played them, in Boston, without Mobley. Once Mobley gets reinserted in the starting lineup, we matchup really, really well.

[JujitsuFlip]

We'll just have to wait and see. If you have to doom-post to mentally prepare yourself for possible negative outcomes, go ahead.

It's just the reality man.

Then trade everybody and start over. Why stop at Mitchell?

I already said I would be fine trading Allen or LeVert in the right trade.

I mentioned prior to the Garland and Mobley injuries that we should trade Wade + Rubio for a wing.

I'd be cool trading Okoro i just don't think he has much value, tbh.

I wouldn't trade Garland, Mobley, Strus, or Niang.

We can just cut TT before his guarantee date, if that's what he wanted.

You act like this core has been to back-to-back ECF or something...

[Iwasawitness]

If a non NBA fan ever asks me what the meaning of a treadmill franchise is, I'll send them to this thread.

Y'all are apparently perfectly fine being mediocre. Yea lets all hope we can get a play in spot only to get blown out in the 1st round. Maybe we can be "competitive"

Fans would rather JB run everyone into the ground trying to be a .500 team than build towards the future and it's sad. Have fun the rest of the season being mediocre. I'll be back when they get swept in the 1st round or bounced in the play in to say I told you so. Then when Mitchell leaves and there's nothing left, it might finally be obvious. Or maybe not, maybe y'all will still be hoping and praying.

This is such a loser mentality. Did we lose our best player for the year? Is this not just our 26th game of the season? Do we want to usher Mitchell out the door? If you're leaving, maybe think about just not coming back?

Yea because winners are first round exit teams for 5 seasons before being bottom dwellers again. Ask the Bulls if they feel like winners right now. They could have blown it up 3 seasons ago but now they have a bunch of assets worth nothing and they’re still bad.

This is just total lack of understanding of how the NBA works. This isn’t LA or Boston, or Miami, or some big name city. This is Cleveland, get a grip. You either build through the draft and get lucky, or be mediocre.

The Cavs have no worthwhile assets for the next half decade, just let that sink in for a second.

Have fun with your “winner” mentality in 3 years when you’re a 30 win team and no hope until 2030.

I’ll be back to remind everyone, don’t you worry

You are the worst cavaliers fan I’ve ever seen.