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The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2

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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#121 » by bballsparkin » Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:31 am

HumbleRen wrote:Top 10 worst players in the NBA according to EPM:
1. Gradey Dick
2. Theo Maledon
3. Jamree Bouyea
4. Jalen McDaniels
5. Reggie Bullock
6. Malakai Branham
7. Kessler Edwards
8. Larry Nance Jr.
9. Jamal Cain
10. Emoni Bates

Raps having 2 guys on the list is funny lol


Looking at this list makes me think, what happened to Nance Jr. Injuries? Getting old? Everyone else is not surprising.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#122 » by Scase » Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:14 am

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mihaic wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Top 10 worst players in the NBA according to EPM:
1. Gradey Dick
2. Theo Maledon
3. Jamree Bouyea
4. Jalen McDaniels
5. Reggie Bullock
6. Malakai Branham
7. Kessler Edwards
8. Larry Nance Jr.
9. Jamal Cain
10. Emoni Bates

Raps having 2 guys on the list is funny lol

Kessler's game fell off a cliff?


Walker Kessler and Kessler Edwards are two very different people.

I can't believe we extended mcdaniels to a 5/125m contract smdh
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#123 » by alpha » Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:00 pm

We had a guy like Gradey in high school. In practice, he couldn't miss, in games , he couldn't hit the side of a barn. Give him all the time you want, He will never turn out to be the player Masai hoped for.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#124 » by Fairview4Life » Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:39 pm

alpha wrote:We had a guy like Gradey in high school. In practice, he couldn't miss, in games , he couldn't hit the side of a barn. Give him all the time you want, He will never turn out to be the player Masai hoped for.


But he did hit shots in games in college. Lots of them.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#125 » by hyper316 » Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:56 pm

alpha wrote:We had a guy like Gradey in high school. In practice, he couldn't miss, in games , he couldn't hit the side of a barn. Give him all the time you want, He will never turn out to be the player Masai hoped for.


You realize those are 2 separate people has no bearing of one's performance to another right?

People using anecdotal experience this way is careless, borderline lack rational thinking
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#126 » by Chuck Everett » Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:39 pm

Jordan Hawkins and Keyonte George were right there. He can carve out a career, but I have no doubt those guys will be better players. I didn't mention Jaquez because he wasn't a guard.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#127 » by The Duke » Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:05 pm

Gradey is below average in every aspect of the game. And his size is likely not going to improve those other areas. All he can realistically hope for is refining his 3-pt specialist craft which is worthy of 5min a game, as he will always be a terrible liability on the defensive/reb end. Worse than Kapono IMO
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#128 » by Kingsway_fan » Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:19 pm

The Duke wrote:Gradey is below average in every aspect of the game. And his size is likely not going to improve those other areas. All he can realistically hope for is refining his 3-pt specialist craft which is worthy of 5min a game, as he will always be a terrible liability on the defensive/reb end. Worse than Kapono IMO


Both he and Mini Fred were wasted picks... as was additions Thad, McDaniels, Temple, Otto... absolutely Babcock level bad.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#129 » by 2019nbachamps » Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:02 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:Jordan Hawkins and Keyonte George were right there. He can carve out a career, but I have no doubt those guys will be better players. I didn't mention Jaquez because he wasn't a guard.


Other than Chet and Wemby, no rookie is lighting it up so far which lessens the sting of the Gradey pick. Let’s give it a couple more years before calling this pick and L.

So far I’d say the most disappointing aspect is he is completely unplayable. He was obviously drafted to hit a few shots a game now but our FO underestimated how much work it’d require to make him ready for the NBA.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#130 » by nowayguy » Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:09 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:Jordan Hawkins and Keyonte George were right there. He can carve out a career, but I have no doubt those guys will be better players. I didn't mention Jaquez because he wasn't a guard.


Most things seem obvious in hindsight. Raptors had these guys in for workouts and chose Dick based on their evaluation. Same group that chose Scottie over Suggs. It's not like Dick was this big reach :dontknow:
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#131 » by TorontoBarneys » Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:30 pm

Kingsway_fan wrote:
The Duke wrote:Gradey is below average in every aspect of the game. And his size is likely not going to improve those other areas. All he can realistically hope for is refining his 3-pt specialist craft which is worthy of 5min a game, as he will always be a terrible liability on the defensive/reb end. Worse than Kapono IMO


Both he and Mini Fred were wasted picks... as was additions Thad, McDaniels, Temple, Otto... absolutely Babcock level bad.


Nowell was undrafted, but yeah, I don't really get the signing, either. The FO is very strange these days. Telling that they give less and less info to the public, too.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#132 » by Yallbecrazy » Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:53 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:Jordan Hawkins and Keyonte George were right there. He can carve out a career, but I have no doubt those guys will be better players. I didn't mention Jaquez because he wasn't a guard.


George is garbage right now and also looks like a bust.
Hawkins is great from 3, but still terrible at the rest of basketball so is a well below average player. Yes Hawkins is looking like the better pick now, but he's not a 'omg we missed out on him' player.

Podz is a guy that's looking really good though.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#133 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:14 pm

The Watson picks all look good early: Podz, Sasser, Lively, Jacques. It's typically the guys that are smart enough, physically mature enough and have the right kind of motor to make winning plays that endear themselves to coaches.

Gradey is like a full echelon below even Hawkins and George right now.
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Post#134 » by lolekszmolek » Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:15 pm

During the pre-season, Dick performed well and offered some validation that the Raptors choice for the 11th pick was sound. His high college ranking was not accidental but well grounded. I saw Dick on Thursday at the 905 and his play was very disappointing but the week prior his stats were more encouraging. It is disappointing that he hasn't been able to provide an immediate contribution to the Raptors but many first rounders take at least a year or more to develop. Gradey Dick is a long way from being written off as a failed first round draft pick. Patience is needed most of all by Dick, whose poor performance is as much psychological as it is lack of experience.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#135 » by Fairview4Life » Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:37 pm

lolekszmolek wrote:During the pre-season, Dick performed well and offered some validation that the Raptors choice for the 11th pick was sound. His high college ranking was not accidental but well grounded. I saw Dick on Thursday at the 905 and his play was very disappointing but the week prior his stats were more encouraging. It is disappointing that he hasn't been able to provide an immediate contribution to the Raptors but many first rounders take at least a year or more to develop. Gradey Dick is a long way from being written off as a failed first round draft pick. Patience is needed most of all by Dick, whose poor performance is as much psychological as it is lack of experience.


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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#136 » by KL78192020 » Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:01 pm

2019nbachamps wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:Jordan Hawkins and Keyonte George were right there. He can carve out a career, but I have no doubt those guys will be better players. I didn't mention Jaquez because he wasn't a guard.


Other than Chet and Wemby, no rookie is lighting it up so far which lessens the sting of the Gradey pick. Let’s give it a couple more years before calling this pick and L.

So far I’d say the most disappointing aspect is he is completely unplayable. He was obviously drafted to hit a few shots a game now but our FO underestimated how much work it’d require to make him ready for the NBA.


other rookies have shown flashes, and also some have natural gifts, can play defense, play make and do other things.

Outside of shooting the 3, what else can Gradey do?
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#137 » by HumbleRen » Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:27 pm

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Chuck Everett wrote:Jordan Hawkins and Keyonte George were right there. He can carve out a career, but I have no doubt those guys will be better players. I didn't mention Jaquez because he wasn't a guard.


Other than Chet and Wemby, no rookie is lighting it up so far which lessens the sting of the Gradey pick. Let’s give it a couple more years before calling this pick and L.

So far I’d say the most disappointing aspect is he is completely unplayable. He was obviously drafted to hit a few shots a game now but our FO underestimated how much work it’d require to make him ready for the NBA.


other rookies have shown flashes, and also some have natural gifts, can play defense, play make and do other things.

Outside of shooting the 3, what else can Gradey do?


Don’tcha know that Gradey is more than a shooter !?
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#138 » by wolfv » Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:28 pm

Am I crazy or does Gradey look like Jeffrey Dahmer?

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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#139 » by hyper316 » Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:13 pm

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Chuck Everett wrote:Jordan Hawkins and Keyonte George were right there. He can carve out a career, but I have no doubt those guys will be better players. I didn't mention Jaquez because he wasn't a guard.


Most things seem obvious in hindsight. Raptors had these guys in for workouts and chose Dick based on their evaluation. Same group that chose Scottie over Suggs. It's not like Dick was this big reach :dontknow:


But Dick never worked out for Raptors predraft tho as far as I can recall, they worked out both Suggs and Barnes to make that evaluation
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#140 » by 2019nbachamps » Sun Dec 17, 2023 7:24 pm

hyper316 wrote:
nowayguy wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:Jordan Hawkins and Keyonte George were right there. He can carve out a career, but I have no doubt those guys will be better players. I didn't mention Jaquez because he wasn't a guard.


Most things seem obvious in hindsight. Raptors had these guys in for workouts and chose Dick based on their evaluation. Same group that chose Scottie over Suggs. It's not like Dick was this big reach :dontknow:


But Dick never worked out for Raptors predraft tho as far as I can recall, they worked out both Suggs and Barnes to make that evaluation


He did work out for us.

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