76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

[elchengue20]

Not true because you can make the defender pay if they send help

You just cant do that with Pj Tucker because he is only near as tall as DeAnthony Melton so he can’t finish in the paint when timelord is around him.

Jokic is the best big man passer of all time and Gordon is one of the best dunkers of all time.

Also Gordon shot 39% in their Playoff run from 3.

Its easier to do big to big passing because the distance is shorter compared to doing passing long distance (i.e cross court), you dont need a great dunker for that you just need someone with size who can finish in the paint.

If Biid is struggling, Siakam could be the one who’s initiating at the elbow and dropping it to Embiid. Those two can also run 2 man play near the paint which is very hard to defend.

Gordon shot 39% because he attempted very little and barely make 1 3pt make a game. With how Jokic is scoring, smart defense is to leave with the Gordon 3pter which defense can’t do because they can run several actions that can punish the defense if they opt to play it that way.

Like what Ben Taylor said, teams are now going big because most have realized that there can only be 1 golden state warriors. You can’t put too much emphasis on 3pt shots because its too inconsistent unless you are Steph Curry.

All Championship teams have size and almost always have a good finisher around the paint in halfcourt, who is that for our team? Dirk Nowitzki has Tyson Chandler and Jokic has Gordon. Dirk and Jokic being Biid’s archetype.

This isnt 2011 anymore, i don't understand the Mavs comparison. There is a reason all 30 teams in the NBA since then have gone small and have at least a respectable shooter at the 4 and even at the 5. Also Biid is a 5.

We already tried with Ben at the 4 playing at the dunker spot, who's a much better passer than Siakam by the way, and it didn't work out.

I woudn't go that far saying nobody can be the GSW and shooting doesn't matter that much, that's wrong. I think that's pushing the narrative a bit. Denver played 5 out basketball. Also GSW played a frontcourt with less shoting (and more defense) than Denver in Draymond and Bogut/Looney. I don't buy it.

Still, i think Siakam shot is coming back, so it doesn't matter that much. We both agree he's a good fit and upgrade over Tobias.

[76ciology]

Jokic is the best big man passer of all time and Gordon is one of the best dunkers of all time.

Also Gordon shot 39% in their Playoff run from 3.

Its easier to do big to big passing because the distance is shorter compared to doing passing long distance (i.e cross court), you dont need a great dunker for that you just need someone with size who can finish in the paint.

If Biid is struggling, Siakam could be the one who’s initiating at the elbow and dropping it to Embiid. Those two can also run 2 man play near the paint which is very hard to defend.

Gordon shot 39% because he attempted very little and barely make 1 3pt make a game. With how Jokic is scoring, smart defense is to leave with the Gordon 3pter which defense can’t do because they can run several actions that can punish the defense if they opt to play it that way.

Like what Ben Taylor said, teams are now going big because most have realized that there can only be 1 golden state warriors. You can’t put too much emphasis on 3pt shots because its too inconsistent unless you are Steph Curry.

All Championship teams have size and almost always have a good finisher around the paint in halfcourt, who is that for our team? Dirk Nowitzki has Tyson Chandler and Jokic has Gordon. Dirk and Jokic being Biid’s archetype.

This isnt 2011 anymore, i don't understand the Mavs comparison. There is a reason all 30 teams in the NBA since then have gone small and have at least a respectable shooter at the 4 and even at the 5. Also Biid is a 5.

We already tried with Ben at the 4 playing at the dunker spot, who's a much better passer than Siakam by the way, and it didn't work out.

I woudn't go that far saying nobody can be the GSW and shooting doesn't matter that much, that's wrong. I think that's pushing the narrative a bit. Denver played 5 out basketball. Also GSW played a frontcourt with less shoting (and more defense) than Denver in Draymond and Bogut/Looney. I don't buy it.

Still, i think Siakam shot is coming back, so it doesn't matter that much. We both agree he's a good fit and upgrade over Tobias.

NBA has gone small but they have recently been adding size.https://podcasts.apple.com/ph/podcast/thinking-basketball/id1428290303?i=1000638246187. Teams have to add size because lay-ups are the best shot in basketball, extra possessions, rebounding and for defensive rotations (rim protection and closing out PnR ball handler or shooter). Throughout history, NBA champs always have a big team. Even the Warriors plays with two guys who can play center always with Draymond-Bogut/Looney/Pachulia, and it was more OP when they have a 6’10 SF in KD at the 3 at one point.

My point is comparing Jokic and Dirk to Embiid in terms of offensive style/shot selection and how it impacts the paint makes sense. Having players like Aaron Gordon and Tyson Chandler capitalizing on the open paint is a strategic advantage.

Many still have PTSD from Ben's plays at the dunker spot. However, Siakam differs from Ben; he's a skilled scorer. When Siakam is in the paint or drives to the paint, you have to send an extra defender because he can make the shot and his freethrows (unlike Ben). In contrast, Ben wouldn't even attempt a shot with Trae Young defending him. Teams could also foul Ben and send him to the line.

Looking at Embiid's shot selection, most of his paint shots come in the first quarter when defenses aren't as tight. After that, he mainly shoots from the mid-range area (specially down the stretch) leaving the paint is open. Siakam is versatile and is not that bad of a shooter that you can just leave wide open in corner 3s

[76ciology]

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[76ciology]

“I try not to get too prescriptive or proscriptive on that but I would say there are a few areas if we do take an injury, obviously if they're big injuries, you're a little bit challenged in the playoffs no matter what, but to get us through stretches where key guys are out, I do think some depth at the big might be helpful. I do think some depth at guard. I do think surprisingly given this offseason for a while it looked like our wing depth wasn't going to be there. The Clippers trade obviously helped that quite a bit. So I think we're shored up pretty well there. From a depth perspective, it’ll probably be guard and big. Then we're obviously always looking for those real key difference makers who can really move the needle and give us even a better chance against the other top teams in the East and in the NBA.”

— Daryl Morey on the Sixers’ needs.

[Philly2good]

I think we will end up with Donovan Mitchell

[the_process]

Instead of a star player now, why not try to find the next star languishing on someone's bench?

Young, tall guards. Ball handling and defense. Shooting preferred but not required.

[GutUNC]

What possible combination would make sense for both teams to send Tobias to Detroit?

[mjkvol]

What possible combination would make sense for both teams to send Tobias to Detroit?

How dreadfully bad must it be in Detroit for someone there to say "I know - let's bring back Tobias Harris!"?

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

We are not trading Tobias Harris. No way, no how. At the end of the season, he'll walk to a new team.

[76ciology]

What possible combination would make sense for both teams to send Tobias to Detroit?

Maybe 3 way. Ivey, Harris and Bagley to Raps then we get Siakam?

Killian
Cade
Tobias
Bogdanovic
Duren
^ gives them more offense to surround Cade

Raps get Ivey on rookie contract to play with Barnes and OG.

[76ciology]

“I try not to get too prescriptive or proscriptive on that but I would say there are a few areas if we do take an injury, obviously if they're big injuries, you're a little bit challenged in the playoffs no matter what, but to get us through stretches where key guys are out, I do think some depth at the big might be helpful. I do think some depth at guard. I do think surprisingly given this offseason for a while it looked like our wing depth wasn't going to be there. The Clippers trade obviously helped that quite a bit. So I think we're shored up pretty well there. From a depth perspective, it’ll probably be guard and big. Then we're obviously always looking for those real key difference makers who can really move the needle and give us even a better chance against the other top teams in the East and in the NBA.”

— Daryl Morey on the Sixers’ needs.

Depth at C (among other things) can be solved by adding Siakam. Nurse played 35-37% him at C for the last two seasons. Reed, Batum, Roco and Morris also fits his giant line-up.

[LeTimmAy]

Or just sign nerlens.

[SixthStreet]

Trade for Grant, sign Noel and trade for McConnell.

[Jhawk03]

What possible combination would make sense for both teams to send Tobias to Detroit?

How dreadfully bad must it be in Detroit for someone there to say "I know - let's bring back Tobias Harris!"?

The answer to that lies in the report. "We'd love to acquire OG, however will gladly settle for a Tobias return."

What's really dreadful is the fact that either player greatly improves that team... regardless of what's traded within reason.

[youngcrev]

What possible combination would make sense for both teams to send Tobias to Detroit?

How dreadfully bad must it be in Detroit for someone there to say "I know - let's bring back Tobias Harris!"?

The answer to that lies in the report. "We'd love to acquire OG, however will gladly settle for a Tobias return."

What's really dreadful is the fact that either player greatly improves that team... regardless of what's traded within reason.

I imagine if Tobias was on another team we'd be looking at it the same way.

[Sixerscan]

“I try not to get too prescriptive or proscriptive on that but I would say there are a few areas if we do take an injury, obviously if they're big injuries, you're a little bit challenged in the playoffs no matter what, but to get us through stretches where key guys are out, I do think some depth at the big might be helpful. I do think some depth at guard. I do think surprisingly given this offseason for a while it looked like our wing depth wasn't going to be there. The Clippers trade obviously helped that quite a bit. So I think we're shored up pretty well there. From a depth perspective, it’ll probably be guard and big. Then we're obviously always looking for those real key difference makers who can really move the needle and give us even a better chance against the other top teams in the East and in the NBA.”

— Daryl Morey on the Sixers’ needs.

Depth at C (among other things) can be solved by adding Siakam. Nurse played 35-37% him at C for the last two seasons. Reed, Batum, Roco and Morris also fits his giant line-up.

“Depth” probably means like improving on Bamba. Siakam and some of the other names were talking about would fall under the last sentence.

[76ciology]

“I try not to get too prescriptive or proscriptive on that but I would say there are a few areas if we do take an injury, obviously if they're big injuries, you're a little bit challenged in the playoffs no matter what, but to get us through stretches where key guys are out, I do think some depth at the big might be helpful. I do think some depth at guard. I do think surprisingly given this offseason for a while it looked like our wing depth wasn't going to be there. The Clippers trade obviously helped that quite a bit. So I think we're shored up pretty well there. From a depth perspective, it’ll probably be guard and big. Then we're obviously always looking for those real key difference makers who can really move the needle and give us even a better chance against the other top teams in the East and in the NBA.”

— Daryl Morey on the Sixers’ needs.

Depth at C (among other things) can be solved by adding Siakam. Nurse played 35-37% him at C for the last two seasons. Reed, Batum, Roco and Morris also fits his giant line-up.

“Depth” probably means like improving on Bamba. Siakam and some of the other names were talking about would fall under the last sentence.

Well, i also wouldnt mind that. I’d rather have Theis than Bamba

[M2J]

Just heard a stat that this is the best 5 games point differential in NBA history.

That's typically a product of both high end talent and depth that carries that through vs bad competition

#1 offense tied with Indians, #5 defense tied with Boston and Orlando essentially after beating up on bad teams too

Kudos to them all

[Tony Franciosa]

I'd legit feel bad for Tobias if he got traded to DET. No one deserves that.

[Tony Franciosa]

Just heard a stat that this is the best 5 games point differential in NBA history.

That's typically a product of both high end talent and depth that carries that through vs bad competition

#1 offense tied with Indians, #5 defense tied with Boston and Orlando essentially after beating up on bad teams too

Kudos to them all

they are pummeling bad teams, which is what real good teams are supposed to do.