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The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2

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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#141 » by Coco Costanza » Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:36 pm

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The Duke wrote:Gradey is below average in every aspect of the game. And his size is likely not going to improve those other areas. All he can realistically hope for is refining his 3-pt specialist craft which is worthy of 5min a game, as he will always be a terrible liability on the defensive/reb end. Worse than Kapono IMO


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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#142 » by hyper316 » Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:02 pm

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nowayguy wrote:
Most things seem obvious in hindsight. Raptors had these guys in for workouts and chose Dick based on their evaluation. Same group that chose Scottie over Suggs. It's not like Dick was this big reach :dontknow:


But Dick never worked out for Raptors predraft tho as far as I can recall, they worked out both Suggs and Barnes to make that evaluation


He did work out for us.


Okay thanks found an article to confirm

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/news/raptors-2023-nba-draft-prospect-workout-tracker-full-list/pi0zduzuxzolfy4my1h6up0w
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#143 » by TheAlchemist23 » Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:06 pm

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alpha wrote:We had a guy like Gradey in high school. In practice, he couldn't miss, in games , he couldn't hit the side of a barn. Give him all the time you want, He will never turn out to be the player Masai hoped for.


But he did hit shots in games in college. Lots of them.

The college 3 is shorter. For it's worth it looked like Gradey's midrange shot was wet during summer league and preseason. Might be he just can't from distance.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#144 » by Scase » Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:54 pm

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alpha wrote:We had a guy like Gradey in high school. In practice, he couldn't miss, in games , he couldn't hit the side of a barn. Give him all the time you want, He will never turn out to be the player Masai hoped for.


But he did hit shots in games in college. Lots of them.

The college 3 is shorter. For it's worth it looked like Gradey's midrange shot was wet during summer league and preseason. Might be he just can't from distance.

Exceptional weakness for a 3 point shooter :lol:
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#145 » by Fairview4Life » Sun Dec 17, 2023 11:58 pm

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But he did hit shots in games in college. Lots of them.

The college 3 is shorter. For it's worth it looked like Gradey's midrange shot was wet during summer league and preseason. Might be he just can't from distance.

Exceptional weakness for a 3 point shooter :lol:


Extending distance by a few feet one is not some insurmountable problem. The original person being replied to thinks he just can’t hit shots in games due to some mental issue.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#146 » by Scase » Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:01 am

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TheAlchemist23 wrote:The college 3 is shorter. For it's worth it looked like Gradey's midrange shot was wet during summer league and preseason. Might be he just can't from distance.

Exceptional weakness for a 3 point shooter :lol:


Extending distance by a few feet one is not some insurmountable problem. The original person being replied to thinks he just can’t hit shots in games due to some mental issue.

I'm trying to make light of an otherwise depressing situation tbf.

But overall, it's not a particularly promising sign. AS for extending that a few feet, there are plenty of players who were exceptional mid range shooters, and bad 3pt shooters. Insurmountable or not, this is a crappy situation we're in.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#147 » by Mad Prophet » Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:19 am

I remember when Calderon came over, he had a lot of trouble with the longer distance. After a couple of years he was hitting 40%.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#148 » by hyper316 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:27 am

The Duke wrote:Gradey is below average in every aspect of the game. And his size is likely not going to improve those other areas. All he can realistically hope for is refining his 3-pt specialist craft which is worthy of 5min a game, as he will always be a terrible liability on the defensive/reb end. Worse than Kapono IMO


I would take Garrison Matthews over Gradey. Can play defense, makes 3pts (.478 3pt%)
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#149 » by Scase » Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:35 am

Mad Prophet wrote:I remember when Calderon came over, he had a lot of trouble with the longer distance. After a couple of years he was hitting 40%.

His first 2 years he took 43 and 75 3pa in the entire seasons, you might be right, but those sample sizes are way too small to say.

And honestly, even if you are right, and Gradey picks it up in 2-3 years, the rest of his game is pretty abysmal so far.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#150 » by Los_29 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:53 am

Gradey has not looked good. He just turned 20 though. We have no idea if he will have an NBA career or not. But I laugh at the people who want to tank already giving up on the kid. I don’t think people realize what they are in for if we do decide to tank. Prospects won’t be a finished product after two months. A rebuilding team may not be the kind of team to cheer for if you lack patience.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#151 » by ItsDanger » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:42 am

Los_29 wrote:Gradey has not looked good. He just turned 20 though. We have no idea if he will have an NBA career or not. But I laugh at the people who want to tank already giving up on the kid. I don’t think people realize what they are in for if we do decide to tank. Prospects won’t be a finished product after two months. A rebuilding team may not be the kind of team to cheer for if you lack patience.

I see this comment a lot on here. This is complete BS. Seen rebuilds on this team, other NBA teams AND plenty of other teams in other leagues over several years. WTF.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#152 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:27 am

Podz continues to kill it for GSW. Would be competing for a starting spot right now in Toronto
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#153 » by Los_29 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:35 am

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Los_29 wrote:Gradey has not looked good. He just turned 20 though. We have no idea if he will have an NBA career or not. But I laugh at the people who want to tank already giving up on the kid. I don’t think people realize what they are in for if we do decide to tank. Prospects won’t be a finished product after two months. A rebuilding team may not be the kind of team to cheer for if you lack patience.

I see this comment a lot on here. This is complete BS. Seen rebuilds on this team, other NBA teams AND plenty of other teams in other leagues over several years. WTF.


We haven’t rebuilt in a long time. Who cares if you’ve seen it on other teams, that’s irrelevant. The question is can you guys handle watching the ups and downs of prospects on our team? I’d say that’s unlikely judging by some people’s posts.

Rebuilds take patience.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#154 » by Thaddy » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:53 am

This is clear now.

No one changed his form, he just has a slingshot form that he's been changing himself because he can't cover that extra distance.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#155 » by Kingsway_fan » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:25 pm

[quote="Thaddy"]This is clear now.

No one changed his form, he just has a slingshot form that he's been changing himself because he can't cover that extra distance.[/quote]


He has the rest of the season amd offseason to get it right... next year will be telling....otherwise, another Flynn type project ... not likely to be good enough ...
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#156 » by KL78192020 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:54 pm

Los_29 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:
Los_29 wrote:Gradey has not looked good. He just turned 20 though. We have no idea if he will have an NBA career or not. But I laugh at the people who want to tank already giving up on the kid. I don’t think people realize what they are in for if we do decide to tank. Prospects won’t be a finished product after two months. A rebuilding team may not be the kind of team to cheer for if you lack patience.

I see this comment a lot on here. This is complete BS. Seen rebuilds on this team, other NBA teams AND plenty of other teams in other leagues over several years. WTF.


We haven’t rebuilt in a long time. Who cares if you’ve seen it on other teams, that’s irrelevant. The question is can you guys handle watching the ups and downs of prospects on our team? I’d say that’s unlikely judging by some people’s posts.

Rebuilds take patience.


Yes, I would rather watch Gradey chuck it then Schroder. I mean the team is losing anyways, going from 10 wins to 6 wins isn't going end my fandom. It's not like they're a top 5 seed or anything, they're just out of the bottom teams in the league.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#157 » by XTC » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:35 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Podz continues to kill it for GSW. Would be competing for a starting spot right now in Toronto


I have no idea why he wasn't talked about more.

He was a very good shooter in college, a sneaky athlete, a very good rebounder, and a very good defender. He was a very good pick by the Warriors. So far all his traits have translated to the next level.

He was just as good of a shooter as Gradey in college, while having other elements to his game. Made no sense to choose Gradey over Pods.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#158 » by ItsDanger » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:36 pm

Los_29 wrote:
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Los_29 wrote:Gradey has not looked good. He just turned 20 though. We have no idea if he will have an NBA career or not. But I laugh at the people who want to tank already giving up on the kid. I don’t think people realize what they are in for if we do decide to tank. Prospects won’t be a finished product after two months. A rebuilding team may not be the kind of team to cheer for if you lack patience.

I see this comment a lot on here. This is complete BS. Seen rebuilds on this team, other NBA teams AND plenty of other teams in other leagues over several years. WTF.


We haven’t rebuilt in a long time. Who cares if you’ve seen it on other teams, that’s irrelevant. The question is can you guys handle watching the ups and downs of prospects on our team? I’d say that’s unlikely judging by some people’s posts.

Rebuilds take patience.

It's 100% relevant. You act like people just started watching Raptors games 5 years ago. WTF.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#159 » by srhcan » Mon Dec 18, 2023 6:56 pm

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Podz continues to kill it for GSW. Would be competing for a starting spot right now in Toronto


I have no idea why he wasn't talked about more.

He was a very good shooter in college, a sneaky athlete, a very good rebounder, and a very good defender. He was a very good pick by the Warriors. So far all his traits have translated to the next level.

He was just as good of a shooter as Gradey in college, while having other elements to his game. Made no sense to choose Gradey over Pods.

I think Gradey was chosen for having playmaking skill as well?
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#160 » by HumbleRen » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:39 pm

This dude is launching a podcast lol.

He got more promotions about his brand than he does 3 point makes with us.

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