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BliscoSantos wrote:Mavs should take a chance and sign Lofton Jr. The Grizzlies waived him...he's undersized,but can bang down low...waive Morris maybe... it's nothing spectacular,but he's Young,was member of youth National teams...Just get him maybe to slim down a little
Archx wrote:BeiBeau wrote:Archx wrote:
Based from what you even saw live. Would you be then comfortable with Hardy running the 2nd unit? Because he's 1:1 replacement for THJ.
I'm not sure he's ready for that, yet. I thought he will be before the season but THJ was quite on fire before this Twolves game.
Live or not live Hardy shouldn’t be running anything. He is not a point guard. He gets his own shot and that is it. If he wants to be an elite role player in this league 1. He he’s to be more consistent, he has had a lot of games where he looks like a borderline all star, and a lot where he comes out with the 2nd unit and we all say “send his ass back to the bench for the rest of the game”. If he can meet somewhere in the middle 80% of nights he could be a 6th man. And 2. He needs to continue to be better defensively.
Exactly. That's why i'm not comfortable moving THJ. Unless it's someone capable of what THJ can't actually do. And that's everything besides shooting lol.
Teffer10 wrote:Archx wrote:BeiBeau wrote:
Live or not live Hardy shouldn’t be running anything. He is not a point guard. He gets his own shot and that is it. If he wants to be an elite role player in this league 1. He he’s to be more consistent, he has had a lot of games where he looks like a borderline all star, and a lot where he comes out with the 2nd unit and we all say “send his ass back to the bench for the rest of the game”. If he can meet somewhere in the middle 80% of nights he could be a 6th man. And 2. He needs to continue to be better defensively.
Exactly. That's why i'm not comfortable moving THJ. Unless it's someone capable of what THJ can't actually do. And that's everything besides shooting lol.
Everything his is saying about Hardy is what everyone has been saying about Hardaway since he's been in the league.
I say we move THJ for a more consistent 2-way player while he has some value and move Hardy into a more suitable role.
If Hardaway is our 3rd best player we are in deep crap. He'll eventually have more of an impact on our losses than an impact on wins. Hardy would not be our 3rd best so his inconsistency wouldnt be as damaging to the team as a whole.
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daoneandonly wrote:Exum seems to be one of the better fits with Luka than many of the other guys we tried over the years. What that means for us? who knows. Kyrie is here, but as always missing games. And Dallas needs a player with his strengths and scoring prowess as LUka cant do everything.
If there were a star to get a star PF/SF for Kyrie out there, that's the way to go. Kind of tired of Kyrie being out even though this one was flukish.
No way Raptors say yes to this, or? Then trust Exum with more than freaking 28 mpg. Makes no sense why he's not playing more. Archx wrote:daoneandonly wrote:Exum seems to be one of the better fits with Luka than many of the other guys we tried over the years. What that means for us? who knows. Kyrie is here, but as always missing games. And Dallas needs a player with his strengths and scoring prowess as LUka cant do everything.
If there were a star to get a star PF/SF for Kyrie out there, that's the way to go. Kind of tired of Kyrie being out even though this one was flukish.
Kyrie for OG and Achiuwa and some compensations to make the trade work?
Mavs would instantly become incredible versatile on the wings and have way more depth at the center. They wouldn't even need to trade THJ.
Problem is, Mavs won't move Kyrie for basically anything. Cuban would make himself look like a fool after all that talk of trading and extending him.
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daoneandonly wrote:Archx wrote:daoneandonly wrote:Exum seems to be one of the better fits with Luka than many of the other guys we tried over the years. What that means for us? who knows. Kyrie is here, but as always missing games. And Dallas needs a player with his strengths and scoring prowess as LUka cant do everything.
If there were a star to get a star PF/SF for Kyrie out there, that's the way to go. Kind of tired of Kyrie being out even though this one was flukish.
Kyrie for OG and Achiuwa and some compensations to make the trade work?
Mavs would instantly become incredible versatile on the wings and have way more depth at the center. They wouldn't even need to trade THJ.
Problem is, Mavs won't move Kyrie for basically anything. Cuban would make himself look like a fool after all that talk of trading and extending him.
Yea Cuban's ego will also cap this team from doing whats in their best interest. I like OG, but I worry that team would not have enough offensive fire power.
Some type of 3 way where 3rd team gets Kyrie, Jazz get assets, we get Lauri and junk filler like THT? Even that, dont like Lauri's due a new contract and can he be the 2nd guy to Luka? But moot anyways because AInge will forever ask for an arm, leg, organ, hair, Alexa echo, headphones, etc.
But LUka Lively Lauri rolls off the tongue
Archx wrote:daoneandonly wrote:Archx wrote:
Kyrie for OG and Achiuwa and some compensations to make the trade work?
Mavs would instantly become incredible versatile on the wings and have way more depth at the center. They wouldn't even need to trade THJ.
Problem is, Mavs won't move Kyrie for basically anything. Cuban would make himself look like a fool after all that talk of trading and extending him.
Yea Cuban's ego will also cap this team from doing whats in their best interest. I like OG, but I worry that team would not have enough offensive fire power.
Some type of 3 way where 3rd team gets Kyrie, Jazz get assets, we get Lauri and junk filler like THT? Even that, dont like Lauri's due a new contract and can he be the 2nd guy to Luka? But moot anyways because AInge will forever ask for an arm, leg, organ, hair, Alexa echo, headphones, etc.
But LUka Lively Lauri rolls off the tongue
Heh yea, dealing with Ainge probably gives nightmares to any GM. If they could get Lauri, they have to get some defense back aswell. I'm not sure realistically they can get anything good from them. That's why i suggested Raptors if they do blow it up.
OG is good on offense i think Mavs would still have enough and Achiuwa is another fantastic lob threat aswell. And yes that's why i also said THJ could stay for that extra punch off the bench.
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Deuteronomy 30:19 wrote:I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live
Mavrelous wrote:
His only added value is being a nutjob who doesn't back down to anyone, not LeBron not Draymond, basketball wise, he brings nothing...
agentofatlas wrote:Any chance we can get Isaac from Orlando? Gives us size in the wing department.
daoneandonly wrote:Exum seems to be one of the better fits with Luka than many of the other guys we tried over the years. What that means for us? who knows. Kyrie is here, but as always missing games. And Dallas needs a player with his strengths and scoring prowess as LUka cant do everything.
If there were a star to get a star PF/SF for Kyrie out there, that's the way to go. Kind of tired of Kyrie being out even though this one was flukish.
dirkforpres wrote:Mavrelous wrote:
His only added value is being a nutjob who doesn't back down to anyone, not LeBron not Draymond, basketball wise, he brings nothing...
Hes young, a solid rebounder/defender, can also spot up from 3 at a decent clip, and is probably tougher than any big that the Mavs have had since... Rodman? Do we count him?
Assuming we could buy low from that crappy Pistons team without spending any 1sts, this is a no-brainer acquisition.agentofatlas wrote:Any chance we can get Isaac from Orlando? Gives us size in the wing department.
My dream trade target, if they ever do move on from him. I still think he has legit 3rd star potential if he could ever just stay healthy.
Deuteronomy 30:19 wrote:I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live
dirkforpres wrote:Mavrelous wrote:
His only added value is being a nutjob who doesn't back down to anyone, not LeBron not Draymond, basketball wise, he brings nothing...
Hes young, a solid rebounder/defender, can also spot up from 3 at a decent clip, and is probably tougher than any big that the Mavs have had since... Rodman? Do we count him?
Assuming we could buy low from that crappy Pistons team without spending any 1sts, this is a no-brainer acquisition.agentofatlas wrote:Any chance we can get Isaac from Orlando? Gives us size in the wing department.
My dream trade target, if they ever do move on from him. I still think he has legit 3rd star potential if he could ever just stay healthy.
daoneandonly wrote:dirkforpres wrote:Mavrelous wrote:His only added value is being a nutjob who doesn't back down to anyone, not LeBron not Draymond, basketball wise, he brings nothing...
Hes young, a solid rebounder/defender, can also spot up from 3 at a decent clip, and is probably tougher than any big that the Mavs have had since... Rodman? Do we count him?
Assuming we could buy low from that crappy Pistons team without spending any 1sts, this is a no-brainer acquisition.agentofatlas wrote:Any chance we can get Isaac from Orlando? Gives us size in the wing department.
My dream trade target, if they ever do move on from him. I still think he has legit 3rd star potential if he could ever just stay healthy.
Yea i like Issac a lot, and really respect the character by everything ive read about him. He was the guy i was hoping for in 2017 before Orl snatched him up ahead of us. Not sure what we could offer, but Mavs should definitely initiate a call
Bob8 wrote:daoneandonly wrote:dirkforpres wrote:
Hes young, a solid rebounder/defender, can also spot up from 3 at a decent clip, and is probably tougher than any big that the Mavs have had since... Rodman? Do we count him?
Assuming we could buy low from that crappy Pistons team without spending any 1sts, this is a no-brainer acquisition.
My dream trade target, if they ever do move on from him. I still think he has legit 3rd star potential if he could ever just stay healthy.
Yea i like Issac a lot, and really respect the character by everything ive read about him. He was the guy i was hoping for in 2017 before Orl snatched him up ahead of us. Not sure what we could offer, but Mavs should definitely initiate a call
You're talking about Issac, who has played 165 games in 7 seasons and is more interested in religion than in basketball?
Mavrelous wrote:dirkforpres wrote:Mavrelous wrote:His only added value is being a nutjob who doesn't back down to anyone, not LeBron not Draymond, basketball wise, he brings nothing...
Hes young, a solid rebounder/defender, can also spot up from 3 at a decent clip, and is probably tougher than any big that the Mavs have had since... Rodman? Do we count him?
Assuming we could buy low from that crappy Pistons team without spending any 1sts, this is a no-brainer acquisition.agentofatlas wrote:Any chance we can get Isaac from Orlando? Gives us size in the wing department.
My dream trade target, if they ever do move on from him. I still think he has legit 3rd star potential if he could ever just stay healthy.
They wouldn't see low though, why would they?
dirkforpres wrote:Detroit? Or Orlando?
Detroit should be selling Stewart because they have too many bigs and are one of the worst teams ive seen in decades of watching ball. A complete and total tear down and reset is the wisest path forward and I think they know that too. Only ones worth keeping are Duren and Ausar, everyone else should be shopped. Problem is that apparently OKC is interested too and nobody can outbid them.
Orlando should sell because Isaac has some of the worst durability in the entire league and they would be better off with some playoff ready assets. Gambling on his health is extremely high risk, high reward but I think the Mavs have enough decent wing depth now to be able to afford that gamble.