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[Shaffty]

Is the Dame-Giannis Pick-and-Roll a Work in Progress or Just an Afterthought?

Reads like a Things Are Going Wrong In Milwaukee article even as Mahoney admits the Bucks offense is historically good and devastating in clutch time.

they are still doing this??

[DingleJerry]

Mahoney wrote a fair article. Think the most important line was where he described Giannis as essentially not being patient. That to me sums it up.

Giannis is so used to going all out downhill for years, that slowing the game down and letting a play develop isn't in his vocabulary yet. He's all about brute force strike speed to the hoop.

Right, thats why I was hoping to use the reg season to practice up on it. But yea as Ron or someone kind of just said, its definitely nitpicking since the O is so good and isn't a problem. The talent is overwhelming and will be good regardless. But, you'd still like that play ironed out and in the 'go to' type bag come crunch time in the playoffs last 5 mins. That doesn't mean Giannis also can't handle as well, especially when Dame is out. Actually I think my biggest nitpick would be that both guys sit at the same time too much. More Dame/Giannis PnR when together, and a few more Giannis minutes solo where he's totally free to attack/lead etc. Maybe that will change by playoffs but IMO come playoffs there should be no minutes where one of them isn't out there. This might also somehow stem from Dames insistence to play all of Q1/3

[soxperry]

Am I dumb or does half the league right now have a historically good offense? Seems like there is quite a bit of offesnive inflation going on, so using that as a metric to justify the decision to not run more Dame and Giannis PNR is a bit silly.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/best-offensive-rating-by-a-team-in-nba-history-in-a-single-season

i was just on cleaning the glass looking at similar stuff earlier today.. yeah, it's weird. is it simply the combined effects of 1. almost everyone on the court being able to shoot 3s and 2. the widescale adoption of the 3s and rimshots only? i'm sure someone will write a piece about it soon and we will have some sort of explanation.

[pifhluk23]

Am I dumb or does half the league right now have a historically good offense? Seems like there is quite a bit of offesnive inflation going on, so using that as a metric to justify the decision to not run more Dame and Giannis PNR is a bit silly.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/best-offensive-rating-by-a-team-in-nba-history-in-a-single-season

i was just on cleaning the glass looking at similar stuff earlier today.. yeah, it's weird. is it simply the combined effects of 1. almost everyone on the court being able to shoot 3s and 2. the widescale adoption of the 3s and rimshots only? i'm sure someone will write a piece about it soon and we will have some sort of explanation.

Looking forward to next JJ pod with Legler where he said they would breakdown how much they think defense matters in current NBA.

[PG Graveyard]

Is the Dame-Giannis Pick-and-Roll a Work in Progress or Just an Afterthought?

Reads like a Things Are Going Wrong In Milwaukee article even as Mahoney admits the Bucks offense is historically good and devastating in clutch time.

Yeah this was weird. Offense is historically good but let’s complain about the lack of pick and rolls with dame and Giannis

[crowhead76]

The Bucks currently have 12 players that are seeing minutes outside of garbage time. How does this group get whittled down for the playoffs? The ability to make a trade to consolidate players to find a possible better roster fit certainly seems hampered by the fact that the most tradeable contracts are attached to guys who are core glue/culture guys.

Lillard | Payne
Beasley | Jackson Jr | Green
Middleton | Pat | Beauchamp
Giannis | Crowder
Lopez | Portis

[pifhluk23]

The Bucks currently have 12 players that are seeing minutes outside of garbage time. How does this group get whittled down for the playoffs? The ability to make a trade to consolidate players to find a possible better roster fit certainly seems hampered by the fact that the most tradeable contracts are attached to guys who are core glue/culture guys.

Lillard | Payne
Beasley | Jackson Jr | Green
Middleton | Pat | Beauchamp
Giannis | Crowder
Lopez | Portis

Assuming no injuries it's going to be the starters + Jae, Pat & Bobby after the first round. The real question will be will Griff have the smarts to give the young boyz minutes if Beasley is getting hunted non stop or he's missing open shots. I'd still like to see a trade for Caruso or similar and just hope Brook stays healthy all year.

[ShootingtheJ]

The Bucks currently have 12 players that are seeing minutes outside of garbage time. How does this group get whittled down for the playoffs? The ability to make a trade to consolidate players to find a possible better roster fit certainly seems hampered by the fact that the most tradeable contracts are attached to guys who are core glue/culture guys.

Lillard | Payne
Beasley | Jackson Jr | Green
Middleton | Pat | Beauchamp
Giannis | Crowder
Lopez | Portis

I think the team a long ways away from figuring out who fits where, and I'm ok with that.

[MVP2110]

I was very harsh on Griff early in the season(rightfully so imo), but he has done a good job of righting the ship for now. The Dame addition has made the offense elite and Griff has gotten the defense to be averagish, he's corrected his schemes to fix the rebounding issue and he's done a good job lately of playing young guys and letting them grow. The defense still needs work and isn't good enough for a title contender but that's not all on Griff, some of that has to do with roster issues. I remain somewhat skeptical given the lack of quality opponents so far this season(the Bucks have had the leagues easiest schedule thus far) but I think there are genuine reasons to be optimistic, I'm excited for when we finally play other title contenders. Things aren't perfect but they are better then they were early on

[jimmybones]

I'd give Dre some ball handling duties now to see if you're comfortable having him be the backup "point guard." He doesn't have to play a traditional lead guard role to be able to play there and the most obvious playoff rotation spot to upgrade is Cam

[StickeeFingaz]

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[TroyD92]

Andre Jackson is being framed

[MVP2110]

I was very harsh on Griff early in the season(rightfully so imo), but he has done a good job of righting the ship for now. The Dame addition has made the offense elite and Griff has gotten the defense to be averagish, he's corrected his schemes to fix the rebounding issue and he's done a good job lately of playing young guys and letting them grow. The defense still needs work and isn't good enough for a title contender but that's not all on Griff, some of that has to do with roster issues. I remain somewhat skeptical given the lack of quality opponents so far this season(the Bucks have had the leagues easiest schedule thus far) but I think there are genuine reasons to be optimistic, I'm excited for when we finally play other title contenders. Things aren't perfect but they are better then they were early on

Now all of this said, I'm not sure Griff still has improved the team anywhere from previous years(depends how much credit for the offense you give to him vs Dame) but atleast he's not royally screwing it up anymore.

[Ron Swanson]

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Our starters are better than the bench. More breaking news at 10.

[DingleJerry]

I guess it would be Beas and Dames D ratings wouldn't it? But then you remember they play vast majority of their minutes with Giannis so not really

[PG Graveyard]

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Our starters are better than the bench. More breaking news at 10.

My hope is Ajax can jump start those bench units that have been pancake flat so far. Saw the vision of it in the 2nd quarter of the Pacers game. Team has been different since then. Hope it keeps up

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Andre Jackson is being framed

need to see his minutes with dame vs cam. cam appears to be wrecking all lineups

[craig]

..Our starters are better than the bench. More breaking news at 10.

Yup. Pretty simple.

[rayallenscalves]

Andre Jackson is being framed

need to see his minutes with dame vs cam. cam appears to be wrecking all lineups

I get the appeal of AJJ, but he definitely still has a ways to go. A stat I found interesting: In 206 minutes this year, he has committed 38 fouls. In those same minutes, he has 5 total steals and blocks (and they're all steals). That is 1:7.6 stock-to-foul ratio on the season. Not great, Bob.

[BUCKnation]

Feel like I need to see a more specific set for AJJ b/c that certainly doesn't meet the eye test other than his numbers being tanked in bench lineups. On the other hand, Payne's numbers definitely match the eye test. He's been awful since that IST semifinal.