is Klay done?

[Hoopstar23]

He seems to find his rythm and reminds his old self now

hes raising up trade value which is good for us

[Onus]

Did Klay finally get hooked up by LeBron's source?

Suddenly has legs again, though still a cone on defense. The jumper has been looking smooth, I knew his shooting would come back to some degree but nice to see him a little springier, especially on a back to back. Really good sign. TJD emerging is also a great sign for Klay, as we need more threats on offense to help get him open.

Everyone should've believed that Klay's shot would eventually come back. It's the fact that we have to hide him on defense that was throwing everything off. That and his lack of effort and focus on that end. Hiding him on defense just makes him do all the things he's bad at, focus off the ball, rebounding, help defense, rim protection, etc. Before we could mitigate that by putting him on the ball. Now he really doesn't do anything well on defense.

But just like everyone should believe that Wiggins is going to find his offense as well.

[jozef]

It's the fact that we have to hide him on defense that was throwing everything off. That and his lack of effort and focus on that end. Hiding him on defense just makes him do all the things he's bad at, focus off the ball, rebounding, help defense, rim protection, etc. Before we could mitigate that by putting him on the ball. Now he really doesn't do anything well on defense

Maybe you are the Chosen One who can point to SAMPLES of Klay's bad defense. Please.

[Jester_]

It's the fact that we have to hide him on defense that was throwing everything off. That and his lack of effort and focus on that end. Hiding him on defense just makes him do all the things he's bad at, focus off the ball, rebounding, help defense, rim protection, etc. Before we could mitigate that by putting him on the ball. Now he really doesn't do anything well on defense

Maybe you are the Chosen One who can point to SAMPLES of Klay's bad defense. Please.

Dude everyone here besides you unanimously sees Klay's defence being ass, the numbers point to Klay's defence being trash, we're not going to spend our time making stupid Youtube clips like you do

It's like you're perennially stuck in 2014 or something

[Onus]

It's the fact that we have to hide him on defense that was throwing everything off. That and his lack of effort and focus on that end. Hiding him on defense just makes him do all the things he's bad at, focus off the ball, rebounding, help defense, rim protection, etc. Before we could mitigate that by putting him on the ball. Now he really doesn't do anything well on defense

Maybe you are the Chosen One who can point to SAMPLES of Klay's bad defense. Please.

Are you watching the game? He gets blown by so easily or players are able to create massive separation from him for easy pull up jumpers that aren't contested.

Then he's either late rotating, doesn't provide any help defense or if he does it takes him away from his man. He's a bad low man defender because he's late and provide little resistance at the rim. He doesn't rebound. He loses focus on his man. Has poor effort getting around screens. Basically anything you can point to he's pretty bad at.

the 1 thing he's still decent at is semi-power wings. Wings that use strength to create separation. Wings like Kawhi, Tatum, Brown, KD. Aaron Gordon though ate him up. So it's a very specific and narrow type of player that he can still guard.

[wco81]

It's the fact that we have to hide him on defense that was throwing everything off. That and his lack of effort and focus on that end. Hiding him on defense just makes him do all the things he's bad at, focus off the ball, rebounding, help defense, rim protection, etc. Before we could mitigate that by putting him on the ball. Now he really doesn't do anything well on defense

Maybe you are the Chosen One who can point to SAMPLES of Klay's bad defense. Please.

Are you watching the game? He gets blown by so easily or players are able to create massive separation from him for easy pull up jumpers that aren't contested.

Then he's either late rotating, doesn't provide any help defense or if he does it takes him away from his man. He's a bad low man defender because he's late and provide little resistance at the rim. He doesn't rebound. He loses focus on his man. Has poor effort getting around screens. Basically anything you can point to he's pretty bad at.

the 1 thing he's still decent at is semi-power wings. Wings that use strength to create separation. Wings like Kawhi, Tatum, Brown, KD. Aaron Gordon though ate him up. So it's a very specific and narrow type of player that he can still guard.

Except for Gordon, those players eat up all defenders.

Those are among the very best players in the league.

[Onus]

Maybe you are the Chosen One who can point to SAMPLES of Klay's bad defense. Please.

Are you watching the game? He gets blown by so easily or players are able to create massive separation from him for easy pull up jumpers that aren't contested.

Then he's either late rotating, doesn't provide any help defense or if he does it takes him away from his man. He's a bad low man defender because he's late and provide little resistance at the rim. He doesn't rebound. He loses focus on his man. Has poor effort getting around screens. Basically anything you can point to he's pretty bad at.

the 1 thing he's still decent at is semi-power wings. Wings that use strength to create separation. Wings like Kawhi, Tatum, Brown, KD. Aaron Gordon though ate him up. So it's a very specific and narrow type of player that he can still guard.

Except for Gordon, those players eat up all defenders.

Those are among the very best players in the league.

And Klay can hold his own against them, which is a good thing. Speed and shiftiness though, no chance. He still has a role it's just playing him in the role that he's suited for now.

[wco81]

Mostly in his prime, they put Klay on the fastest PGs like Lillard, so that Curry wouldn't be burdened.

[jozef]

Jester and Onus, PLEASE give me real SAMPLES.
No blah-blah-blah... REAL plays, just tell me what game, quarter, time. Cause till this point NOBODY was able to specifically find it.
So I call it a BS.

[GunnerWRX]

Did Klay finally get hooked up by LeBron's source?

Suddenly has legs again, though still a cone on defense. The jumper has been looking smooth, I knew his shooting would come back to some degree but nice to see him a little springier, especially on a back to back. Really good sign. TJD emerging is also a great sign for Klay, as we need more threats on offense to help get him open.

Everyone should've believed that Klay's shot would eventually come back. It's the fact that we have to hide him on defense that was throwing everything off. That and his lack of effort and focus on that end. Hiding him on defense just makes him do all the things he's bad at, focus off the ball, rebounding, help defense, rim protection, etc. Before we could mitigate that by putting him on the ball. Now he really doesn't do anything well on defense.

But just like everyone should believe that Wiggins is going to find his offense as well.

Exactly. Never doubted he will eventually hit some more shots.

Also, when he hits shots, he is less likely to try to be point guard Klay which also greatly hurts our offense.

[jozef]

Steph and Klay shooting on move off screens are CORNERSTONES of "our" offense. Nobody else can make these shots. All teammates get open treys or semi-open rolls cause of them.

[wco81]

It seemed like for the last 10 minutes of the game, they were looking to get shots for Steph or Klay, nobody else.

That just tells you how they're still dependent on them for offense, especially in crunch time, for must-have shots.

Maybe that's what Kerr told them or maybe that's what the players believed.

[EvanZ]

It seemed like for the last 10 minutes of the game, they were looking to get shots for Steph or Klay, nobody else.

That just tells you how they're still dependent on them for offense, especially in crunch time, for must-have shots.

Maybe that's what Kerr told them or maybe that's what the players believed.

I mean who else would you trust?

[wco81]

Moody, right?

[jozef]

When did Moody make a catch-and-shoot on a move off screen?

[EvanZ]

Moody, right?

I am the biggest Moody supporter on earth but no. I don't "trust" him, not right now. He's shooting 35% on 3s and been very cold lately.

[EvanZ]

When did Moody make a catch-and-shoot on a move off screen?

Yeah the way he shoots, ultimately the biggest problem is how slow his windup to the shot is. Really wish he could pull it quicker.

[wco81]

When we talk about potential trades, people bring up Grant in Portland, OG, Siakam. Maybe Lauri Markannen.

I don't think any of those players are more trustworthy to take a big catch and shoot 3 in a crucial situation than Klay, even Klay now.

Of course, those other players can do more, like create a shot off the dribble or maybe mid post, as well as be better wing defense.

[Big J]

Klay looks back.

[watch1958]

As soon as Klay stopped complaining about what people said, and admitted that he was playing badly, he started playing well.

Best since his injury.