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So what is wrong with Franz?

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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#21 » by eyriq » Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:42 pm

I also think the pressure to be a top two option is getting to him. He misses Fultz and WCJ in that regard. Something to watch for.
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#22 » by jonbob17 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:04 pm

Too many threes off the the dribble. We are 30% the way through the season. I think we are past the definition of a slump. He's surely a better shooter than this, but we are at 25 games. Good shooters have off years, he's been really off. The FT% is still inline with past years, maybe it is just shot selection, even though most of his shots look open.

I am not sure what is the bigger surprise this year Paolo 38%, Suggs 38%, or Franz 29%. If this has just been a large slump and Franz were to shoot 38% the rest of the season, he'd end the year at 35% and the slump wouldnt even end up as blip.

I still think he gets fouled a lot on his drives, so i think there are some points being left on the floor. I guess he was shooting 38% with an an extra shooting foul every other game, we'd be talking about about him averaging 22 on the same number of shots., and the Magic would be a two points better on offense, and ranked 15th in points per game and 5th in net rating, its crazy how an extra shot or two here or there from a single player can impact overall team performance.
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#23 » by JojoSlimbiid » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:10 pm

Cleary Markelle is making it hard for him. Clogging up the lane and siphoning usage...oh wait...um ugh nevermind.
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#24 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:37 pm

He will be fine. He will snap out of it at some point. He also played in the FIBA and won the title there so lots of games so far for him. lol too many knee jerk reactions already, Bipolar Magic board lol.
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#25 » by UCFJayBird » Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:09 pm

If they reworked his shot than that might explain why his three is down this year. That's been the only main concern. I do question his decisions sometimes to just barrel his way into the paint and try and force something up when it's not there. I think he's expecting more foul calls than he's getting and I think that gets in his head a little.

I honestly think it's more of a mental grind for Franz right now. I'm not too worried about that in the long run, more concerned with three point shooting. I hoped he'd be a 38-40% guy this year, I certainly didn't expect him to slip sub .300.

If he can get his 3 going again it will reopen his game and alleviate a lot of pressure. Just not sure if that's going to happen mid season at this point. But he's only 22 and in his 3rd season, so gotta give him a little slack to work through the issues.
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#26 » by jezzerinho » Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:23 pm

UCFJayBird wrote:If they reworked his shot than that might explain why his three is down this year. That's been the only main concern. I do question his decisions sometimes to just barrel his way into the paint and try and force something up when it's not there. I think he's expecting more foul calls than he's getting and I think that gets in his head a little.

I honestly think it's more of a mental grind for Franz right now. I'm not too worried about that in the long run, more concerned with three point shooting. I hoped he'd be a 38-40% guy this year, I certainly didn't expect him to slip sub .300.

If he can get his 3 going again it will reopen his game and alleviate a lot of pressure. Just not sure if that's going to happen mid season at this point. But he's only 22 and in his 3rd season, so gotta give him a little slack to work through the issues.


Great Post. Fully agree.

Hes trying to take the big dip out of his shot. Earlier in the season he was having more success with it, but lately the shot has gotten really flat and its in his head now. Time, practice and hopefully a good shooting mini-streak will set him right.
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#27 » by JojoSlimbiid » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:03 pm

Its such a contrast from preseason where he was unsustainably efficient. It will probably even out with a hot streak.
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#28 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Dec 18, 2023 4:28 pm

Honestly? No idea. Just going to relax and enjoy the ride and see where we are by end of year. Then ask "what happened".
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#29 » by jonbob17 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 5:43 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:He will be fine. He will snap out of it at some point. He also played in the FIBA and won the title there so lots of games so far for him. lol too many knee jerk reactions already, Bipolar Magic board lol.


since you brought it up, Franz shot 25% from deep on 6 attempts per game during the FIBA.

There is something there that needs to be fixed...nobody is saying Franz isn't great, he just hasnt been good at shooting 3s in a while. Obviously we'd score more points if he were making shots, but if he continues to struggle, it may impact his ability to get to the basket.

Surely Franz's 3pt% is not news to the coaching staff, they've gotta be working on it.
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#30 » by Residual-Heat » Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:52 pm

He struggled from 3 the beginning of last season as well. Through his first 25 games last season he shot 32.7%. Hopefully he breaks out of his slump soon.
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#31 » by orlando_joe » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:12 pm

they dont even guard goga past 6 ft..magic have him at 3 point line and player guarding him is in the paint..lol
need wcj and fultz they are laying off black also daring him to shoot
but franz 3 can not explain seems in his head
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#32 » by eyriq » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:35 pm

orlando_joe wrote:they dont even guard goga past 6 ft..magic have him at 3 point line and player guarding him is in the paint..lol
need wcj and fultz they are laying off black also daring him to shoot
but franz 3 can not explain seems in his head
This is worth mentioning. WCJ can stretch the floor with plus three point shooting for the 5.
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#33 » by orlando_joe » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:42 pm

eyriq wrote:
orlando_joe wrote:they dont even guard goga past 6 ft..magic have him at 3 point line and player guarding him is in the paint..lol
need wcj and fultz they are laying off black also daring him to shoot
but franz 3 can not explain seems in his head
This is worth mentioning. WCJ can stretch the floor with plus three point shooting for the 5.


even when goga has ball at 3 pt line and steps in 2 ft player guarding him just backs up making it even tighter
teams have had 20 games to adjust...dont guard black or goga take away cuts to basket
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#34 » by basketballRob » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:52 pm

Goga can make 3s, probably at the same rate that Wendell does he just opts not to. Wendell isn't a good 3-point shooter.

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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#35 » by eyriq » Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:53 pm

basketballRob wrote:Goga can make 3s, probably at the same rate that Wendell does he just opts not to. Wendell isn't a good 3-point shooter.

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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#36 » by MasterGMer » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:17 pm

I think Franz can end up becoming an All Star if not soon enough. He could become the first option as we saw in Denver game. Franz is going to be Real good for us. Believe in him!


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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#37 » by basketballRob » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:40 pm

Who is Franz?

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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#38 » by orlando_joe » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:41 pm

basketballRob wrote:Goga can make 3s, probably at the same rate that Wendell does he just opts not to. Wendell isn't a good 3-point shooter.

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he has made 58 total at 25% in this his 5th season and pretty sure all were wide open ..lol..ok he can make them
let me know when they guard him
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#39 » by msmoore66 » Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:43 pm

Needs to be traded or cut I think.
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Re: So what is wrong with Franz? 

Post#40 » by XTC » Tue Dec 19, 2023 3:37 am

Raptors fan chiming in.

If you're slumping but still putting up 20/6/4 on a team that's 16-9 while only being 22. That's an amazing slump. He's an amazing young player that's going through growing pains, which every young player goes through. Kid is a future allstar.

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