2023 Season

[CrimsonCrew]

Hawks pull off the win! HUGE. Niners can now drop a game and still claim the #1 seed. Either they win the next two and don't have to beat the Rams, or they can survive a slip-up this week. Amazing!

[Samurai]

Hawks pull off the win! HUGE. Niners can now drop a game and still claim the #1 seed. Either they win the next two and don't have to beat the Rams, or they can survive a slip-up this week. Amazing!

That was a huge win by the Seahawks! Rather than losing to the Ravens, it would be ideal to win the next two and be able to rest key/older stars against the Rams, essentially giving those guys 2 weeks off before a playoff game.

[Jikkle]

I didn't think it was there before but there is a realistic scenario where the 9ers can clinch before the Rams game even if they lose to the Ravens.

I don't think the Cowboys beat both the Dolphins and the Lions. I see them losing to the Dolphins and beating to the Lions. So that takes them out

With that said that means the Lions would be out if they lose to the Cowboys but they also play the Vikings twice and the Lions have been prone to lose games against not great opponents.

Eagles are the reason I still say it's a stretch because they have a very sweepable schedule but with the state they currently are in I would not be shocked if the Cardinals go in and snatch a win from them.

Of course the ultimate crazy scenario is if all 3 of those teams lose next weekend and we clinch the #1 seed by beating the Ravens.

Would make for an interesting discussion on how you approach the rest of the season if your last two games are meaningless. Do you put guys like CMC and Williams on ice until the playoffs? Or do you give CMC very limited snaps and ice him for the Rams game? Hopefully isn't a discussion we'll have.

[thesack12]

I'm not super well versed in NFL tiebreaking procedures, but I believe if the 49ers wind up in a 3+ team tiebreaker scenario with Detroit involved then the head to head wins over Dallas and Philly won't matter. With 3+ teams head to head matchup tiebreakers are only utilized if all teams have played each other. SF and Detroit will not play each other.

Now if there is a 3 team tie with Dallas and Philly, then the head to heads wins over both those teams would award the tiebreaker to San Francisco.

If SF and Detroit wind up tied (whether it be a 2 team or 3+ team scenario) I believe San Francisco would still win the tiebreaker due to having the better conference record than all 3 of Detroit, Dallas, and Philly. However, they still have to win either the Washington game or LA game to clinch that tiebreaker over all 3 of those other teams. SF is currently 9-1 in conference, and all of Detroit/Dallas/Philly already have 3 conference losses.

All that being said, if SF loses to Washington and LA while Detroit/Dallas/Philly win all of their remaining conference games & SF finds themselves in a 3+ team tie with Detroit involved, then it gets quite complicated. In that scenario all teams would the same conference record, it would then revert down to the next tiebreaker which is record among common games. I'm not even going to try and cipher that out. Hopefully we don't have to get to that point.

In a perfect world, Dallas/Detroit/Philly all lose this week with SF winning on Christmas night and that would clinch the #1 seed for the 9ers. This scenario is pretty unlikely/

Still, the 9ers can clinch early without needing any outside help by winning the next 2 against Baltimore and Washington. Which would allow the team to rest their starters in Week 18 and allow all these guys that are dinged up to recover for 2 weeks and get as fresh as possible going into the playoff run.

Long story short, 49ers are sitting in very good position to grab the #1 seed. They still have some work to do though. They need to win 2 of their final 3 games to lock it up.

[thesack12]

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Armstead and Hargrave are both up in the air this week as well. This could be a really tough go if we are missing 3 DTs on Monday

Yeah being thin on DT's is definitely not a good scenario with Lamar and the Ravens' #1 rushing attack coming to town. I don't really have anything other than my own thoughts to base it on, but I believe at least one of Hargrave or Armstead will suit up. How effective/healthy they are would remain to be seen.

With Jennings being in concussion protocol, that all but rules him out this week. I think not having him could low-key be a factor in this game. With Ray Ray on IR, 9ers would be super thin at WR without Jennings. Jennings is also a very good blocker and has sprung a lot of plays with his downfield blocking ability. "3rd and Jauan" would also be missed, in a game against a very good Ravens team where there will probably need to be several critical 3rd down situations.

I really don't want to see Ronnie Bell getting meaningful snaps on offense. That dude's ball control is just awful, and his hands are quite iffy as well. I'm not just talking about being dangerously close to giving up a fumble 6 last Sunday, but also from what I recall he was responsible for like 5 turnovers in the preseason due to fumbles and dropped passes turning into INT's.

Without Jennings, we will probably see Conley get some snaps and Snead be promoted from the practice squad. Not that either of those guys would inspire a ton of confidence. With Conley's length, maybe he could be a mildly viable redzone target?

At this point, I doubt they would activate Danny Gray.

[49er4life1979]

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Armstead and Hargrave are both up in the air this week as well. This could be a really tough go if we are missing 3 DTs on Monday

Yeah being thin on DT's is definitely not a good scenario with Lamar and the Ravens' #1 rushing attack coming to town. I don't really have anything other than my own thoughts to base it on, but I believe at least one of Hargrave or Armstead will suit up. How effective/healthy they are would remain to be seen.

With Jennings being in concussion protocol, that all but rules him out this week. I think not having him could low-key be a factor in this game. With Ray Ray on IR, 9ers would be super thin at WR without Jennings. Jennings is also a very good blocker and has sprung a lot of plays with his downfield blocking ability. "3rd and Jauan" would also be missed, in a game against a very good Ravens team where there will probably need to be several critical 3rd down situations.

I really don't want to see Ronnie Bell getting meaningful snaps on offense. That dude's ball control is just awful, and his hands are quite iffy as well. I'm not just talking about being dangerously close to giving up a fumble 6 last Sunday, but also from what I recall he was responsible for like 5 turnovers in the preseason due to fumbles and dropped passes turning into INT's.

Without Jennings, we will probably see Conley get some snaps and Snead be promoted from the practice squad. Not that either of those guys would inspire a ton of confidence. With Conley's length, maybe he could be a mildly viable redzone target?

At this point, I doubt they would activate Danny Gray.

Its not for sure that Jennings is out, it can be pretty quick to clear the protocl as Brock did earlier on a short week. This time we have an extra day since the game isnt until Monday Night. Shanny did say that both Armstead and Hargrave will have a chance to play this week so hopefully that happens. I would love nothing more than to win the next two games and rest in the final game.

[RIPskaterdude]

I'm not super well versed in NFL tiebreaking procedures, but I believe if the 49ers wind up in a 3+ team tiebreaker scenario with Detroit involved then the head to head wins over Dallas and Philly won't matter. With 3+ teams head to head matchup tiebreakers are only utilized if all teams have played each other. SF and Detroit will not play each other.

Now if there is a 3 team tie with Dallas and Philly, then the head to heads wins over both those teams would award the tiebreaker to San Francisco.

If SF and Detroit wind up tied (whether it be a 2 team or 3+ team scenario) I believe San Francisco would still win the tiebreaker due to having the better conference record than all 3 of Detroit, Dallas, and Philly. However, they still have to win either the Washington game or LA game to clinch that tiebreaker over all 3 of those other teams. SF is currently 9-1 in conference, and all of Detroit/Dallas/Philly already have 3 conference losses.

All that being said, if SF loses to Washington and LA while Detroit/Dallas/Philly win all of their remaining conference games & SF finds themselves in a 3+ team tie with Detroit involved, then it gets quite complicated. In that scenario all teams would the same conference record, it would then revert down to the next tiebreaker which is record among common games. I'm not even going to try and cipher that out. Hopefully we don't have to get to that point.

In a perfect world, Dallas/Detroit/Philly all lose this week with SF winning on Christmas night and that would clinch the #1 seed for the 9ers. This scenario is pretty unlikely/

Still, the 9ers can clinch early without needing any outside help by winning the next 2 against Baltimore and Washington. Which would allow the team to rest their starters in Week 18 and allow all these guys that are dinged up to recover for 2 weeks and get as fresh as possible going into the playoff run.

Long story short, 49ers are sitting in very good position to grab the #1 seed. They still have some work to do though. They need to win 2 of their final 3 games to lock it up.

Dallas and DET play each other next week

[zman1]

Enjoy this team and this year boys and girls. What a fun team with all the talent we have. Kudos to Lynch and company for assembling this squad.

Also, hats off to Kyle whose name does not come up enough with the talk of mvps. Watching so many other teams and their offenses are boring and pretty primitive. I am amazed at how often I see a team go into full pass mode with a big dropback and full protection only to throw a 3 yard pass to someone who is immediately tackled. We rarely do that. And how often do we get guys wide open? Crazy.

When we come to play no one can touch us. One last test with the Ravens. A bit scary for sure but if we get our big boys back we should be able to stop their run and get the win.

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[Harry Palmer]

The missing DTs are perfectly fitted to exploitation by the Ravens, probably more than any team. Hope the offence can keep killing it because it’s going to be a long day on D.

[CharityStripe34]

Enjoy this team and this year boys and girls. What a fun team with all the talent we have. Kudos to Lynch and company for assembling this squad.

Also, hats off to Kyle whose name does not come up enough with the talk of mvps. Watching so many other teams and their offenses are boring and pretty primitive. I am amazed at how often I see a team go into full pass mode with a big dropback and full protection only to throw a 3 yard pass to someone who is immediately tackled. We rarely do that. And how often do we get guys wide open? Crazy.

When we come to play no one can touch us. One last test with the Ravens. A bit scary for sure but if we get our big boys back we should be able to stop their run and get the win.

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Kyle should get COTY consideration.

Legitimate question; where would this team rank if they finish the season with a SB win and some convincing playoff wins? Similar to 85, 89 or 94? I heard a stat the other day where the Niners have 52 TDs and 44 punts, or something. That's incredible.

[zman1]

Enjoy this team and this year boys and girls. What a fun team with all the talent we have. Kudos to Lynch and company for assembling this squad.

Also, hats off to Kyle whose name does not come up enough with the talk of mvps. Watching so many other teams and their offenses are boring and pretty primitive. I am amazed at how often I see a team go into full pass mode with a big dropback and full protection only to throw a 3 yard pass to someone who is immediately tackled. We rarely do that. And how often do we get guys wide open? Crazy.

When we come to play no one can touch us. One last test with the Ravens. A bit scary for sure but if we get our big boys back we should be able to stop their run and get the win.

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Kyle should get COTY consideration.

Legitimate question; where would this team rank if they finish the season with a SB win and some convincing playoff wins? Similar to 85, 89 or 94? I heard a stat the other day where the Niners have 52 TDs and 44 punts, or something. That's incredible.

Agreed about Kyle and COTY. His ability to scheme guys open is incredible, especially since none of them are close to being the fasat their positions. CMC sure helps the run game tremendously, but even Mason averages 5.2 per carry. I don't think any other team comes close to clicking on offense like we do.

How to compare them to our other teams? Once you say Montana and Rice the conversation is about over.

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[wco81]

The missing DTs are perfectly fitted to exploitation by the Ravens, probably more than any team. Hope the offence can keep killing it because it’s going to be a long day on D.

Harbaugh sounded confident about certain matchups that they will have.

Jackson is in a groove, despite being in a new offense this season.

He is navigating the pocket well, extending plays.


On the other side of the ball, Ravens defense has been great at late shifts, like right before the snap or after the snap, something Purdy is going to have to process.

Ravens also not shy about cover 0, especially around the red zone.

[Harry Palmer]

The missing DTs are perfectly fitted to exploitation by the Ravens, probably more than any team. Hope the offence can keep killing it because it’s going to be a long day on D.

Harbaugh sounded confident about certain matchups that they will have.

Jackson is in a groove, despite being in a new offense this season.

He is navigating the pocket well, extending plays.


On the other side of the ball, Ravens defense has been great at late shifts, like right before the snap or after the snap, something Purdy is going to have to process.

Ravens also not shy about cover 0, especially around the red zone.

Yeah, it’s a serious concern. Somewhat less so re: shifts/Purdy because teams have been throwing everything and the kitchen sink at him…the Cardinals had some looks I have literally never seen before and the analysts struggled to even name. The counter to late shifts is quick reads/progression, probably his greatest strength. Which is not to say I’m not worried; Harbaugh has some history being able to cool red-hot qbs, I just don’t think it will be as simple as disguises.

[arich35]

I feel like I haven't seen any reports on Armstead or Hargrave

[wco81]

Ravens are banged up too.

Maybe more.

I hope the Eagles loss doesn't give them conscious or unconscious excuse to approach this game without the highest intentionality.

This is potentially the team out of the AFC to make the SB.

[CrimsonCrew]

Crazy Frank Gore article. I started it, but don't have time to read the whole thing.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39143907/nfl-running-backs-frank-gore-rb-49ers-jets

[zman1]

Crazy Frank Gore article. I started it, but don't have time to read the whole thing.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39143907/nfl-running-backs-frank-gore-rb-49ers-jets

What an article, thanks for posting it. It is long and it is great.

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[RIPskaterdude]

I feel like I haven't seen any reports on Armstead or Hargrave

Still not practicing

[Jikkle]

Was looking at trying to figure out if there is a scenario where the Rams could lock up the #6 seed by beating the Giants next weekend which would put them at 9 wins. Because I would assume they would rest starters if they are locked into their seed going into the final game against us.

So from what my pea brain can figure is for starters they can't get the 5th seed because they lost to both Dallas and Philly so even if one of those teams loses out they'd beat the Rams with a tiebreaker.

The Packers stand at 6 wins and if they win out they would beat out the Rams via a tiebreaker with their head to head match up win so the Rams would have to plan to play hard in the final game if the Packers win the next two.

Both the Vikings and Seahawks can get to 10 wins by winning out so if they win their next two the Rams would need to play hard in the final game.

If the Seahawks lose one game of the next two they are no longer a threat to the Rams 6th seed as they lose the tiebreaker with the Rams.

Vikings play the Packers so if they beat the Packers that puts the Packers out of the running.

Vikings are the tricky one because obviously even if they lose one they could still tie the Rams at the end and I'm not sure how they tiebreaker would shake out on that one.

But the best case scenario is still just us winning and making it a moot point.

[CharityStripe34]

Just win, baby.

I'm thinking Monday's game is going to be a close, nip & tuck game. Which is welcomed from me I think we need a test of high pressure situational football (if the game turns out that way).