The Anthony Black Thread

[JoshuaPotter]

Sorry but I just don't see it yet with the guy. 5 points per 20 minutes is so low, like below Harkless territory and when he shoots the ball he looks unnatural, like he feels like he's doing a chore.

He's also not really creating much at all, I know he's a rookie but alot of rookie point guards show more chops on offense than he has.

The problem is, we have two guys who are discovering that they can score upwards of 40 and or 30+ games upon games in a row.

We also have a strong scoring unit from the bench.

I want Black to develop over time playing within a system. So far, he is doing that, and in my humble opinion doing it well. It's not a popular comment, but he has outplayed Houstan / G Harris. Which I thought he wouldn't have been able to do for whatever reason. Maybe that is the ORG saying "play him minutes no matter what." I don't know.

I just love that he has come in raw and proven defensively he is ready to contribute and that we do not need him to take on a bigger role yet. Although I believe the last couple of games we are starting to see him do more. Just in time for a Fultz takeover unfortunately. Or hopefully that is the point.

[jonbob17]

Feel like Black will be a top 4 player on our team. I like the flashes here and there. Guards take 2 to 4 seasons so I’m patiently waiting for him to get a little more seasoning.

Hoping we can upgrade the guard spot in the near short term with a vet leveraging the money from Fultz and Harris. It may be an offseason move.

I feel like Black has a chance to be top 2 player on this team once it is said and done. Its hard to see right now with how dominant Franz and Paolo have been, or even Suggs defensive intensity. now Black may never be a 22+ point a game scorer, but there's more than one way to impact the outcome of basketball games, and Black sure checks a lot of boxes for a 19 year old rookie.

[The Effect]

I like black, but for people saying hes better than suggs on d, or even better than suggs on D when he was a rookie are way off

Suggs has a chance to be a DPOY candidate year in and year out. Sure black has the size advantage, but everything else goes to suggs

[JoshuaPotter]

I like black, but for people saying hes better than suggs on d, or even better than suggs on D when he was a rookie are way off

Suggs has a chance to be a DPOY candidate year in and year out. Sure black has the size advantage, but everything else goes to suggs

Never saw Suggs as a rookie so I can't comment on that. I do not like Black though and yes that means for a rookie I think he has done excellent.

Wont compare beyond that.

[AaronB]

I like black, but for people saying hes better than suggs on d, or even better than suggs on D when he was a rookie are way off

Suggs has a chance to be a DPOY candidate year in and year out. Sure black has the size advantage, but everything else goes to suggs

There is a big difference between Suggs and Black.

Suggs came into the league with "man muscles".

Black still looks like he has a "boy body".

Hard to tell what he will become when he gets "man muscles".

[basketballRob]

I like black, but for people saying hes better than suggs on d, or even better than suggs on D when he was a rookie are way off

Suggs has a chance to be a DPOY candidate year in and year out. Sure black has the size advantage, but everything else goes to suggs

There is a big difference between Suggs and Black.

Suggs came into the league with "man muscles".

Black still looks like he has a "boy body".

Hard to tell what he will become when he gets "man muscles".

He is 7 months younger than Suggs was as a rookie.

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[jonbob17]

I imagine this has been discussed, but one of the things with AB, is that like Suggs he played football, both recruited by big schools. It may take him a bit of time to sharpen his skills. Can't imagine you have much time for basketball during football season. I know there is some overlap in the seasons, but it may take some time to build some consistency with his shot and his pick and roll game. Sure would like to see him operating in pick and roll more, even if it is not all that successful.

[AaronB]

I like black, but for people saying hes better than suggs on d, or even better than suggs on D when he was a rookie are way off

Suggs has a chance to be a DPOY candidate year in and year out. Sure black has the size advantage, but everything else goes to suggs

There is a big difference between Suggs and Black.

Suggs came into the league with "man muscles".

Black still looks like he has a "boy body".

Hard to tell what he will become when he gets "man muscles".

He is 7 months younger than Suggs was as a rookie.

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As if everyone's body matures at the same rate.

At 17, David Robinson was 5-9. By 19 he was almost 7-0, but thin as a rail.

By 25 he got his man bod and look at where he ended up.

One look at Black and you can tell he has some serious maturing to do body wise.

Suggs, not so much.

[basketballRob]

There is a big difference between Suggs and Black.

Suggs came into the league with "man muscles".

Black still looks like he has a "boy body".

Hard to tell what he will become when he gets "man muscles".

He is 7 months younger than Suggs was as a rookie.

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As if everyone's body matures at the same rate.

At 17, David Robinson was 5-9. By 19 he was almost 7-0, but thin as a rail.

By 25 he got his man bod and look at where he ended up.

One look at Black and you can tell he has some serious maturing to do body wise.

Suggs, not so much.

It would be cool if AB was 6'10" next season. Looking at ABs brother, he doesn't look like he's 6' yet, and he's a freshman at Duncanville. Maybe physically maturing comes late in the Black family.

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[AaronB]

He is 7 months younger than Suggs was as a rookie.

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As if everyone's body matures at the same rate.

At 17, David Robinson was 5-9. By 19 he was almost 7-0, but thin as a rail.

By 25 he got his man bod and look at where he ended up.

One look at Black and you can tell he has some serious maturing to do body wise.

Suggs, not so much.

It would be cool if AB was 6'10" next season. Looking at ABs brother, he doesn't look like he's 6' yet, and he's a freshman at Duncanville. Maybe physically maturing comes late in the Black family.

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I don't know about getting taller, but giving him about 1000 protein shakes and a trainer like Tim Grover and hopefully he fills out quite a bit.

Even Jordan (Grover was Jordan's trainer) took a few years to get his man bod and he came into the league at 21.

[JoshuaPotter]

Nothing personal ladies, gentlemen, and whatever else may read this. But its not like we are comparing 17 month olds to 24 month olds.

7 months at 18 means nothing. It's all just genetics that define what some of you are saying at this point.

Heck my chest grew into its largest size at 39 and that means I missed my genetic peak potentially 20 years ago.

[basketballRob]

As if everyone's body matures at the same rate.

At 17, David Robinson was 5-9. By 19 he was almost 7-0, but thin as a rail.

By 25 he got his man bod and look at where he ended up.

One look at Black and you can tell he has some serious maturing to do body wise.

Suggs, not so much.

It would be cool if AB was 6'10" next season. Looking at ABs brother, he doesn't look like he's 6' yet, and he's a freshman at Duncanville. Maybe physically maturing comes late in the Black family.

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I don't know about getting taller, but giving him about 1000 protein shakes and a trainer like Tim Grover and hopefully he fills out quite a bit.

Even Jordan (Grover was Jordan's trainer) took a few years to get his man bod and he came into the league at 21.

His base is already stronger than Suggs. He has thick legs like Paolo. You can watch him using his base to push players out. I'm not sure how you're seeing a weak player.

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[AaronB]

It would be cool if AB was 6'10" next season. Looking at ABs brother, he doesn't look like he's 6' yet, and he's a freshman at Duncanville. Maybe physically maturing comes late in the Black family.

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I don't know about getting taller, but giving him about 1000 protein shakes and a trainer like Tim Grover and hopefully he fills out quite a bit.

Even Jordan (Grover was Jordan's trainer) took a few years to get his man bod and he came into the league at 21.

His base is already stronger than Suggs. He has thick legs like Paolo. You can watch him using his base to push players out. I'm not sure how you're seeing a weak player.

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If you want to argue that Black has his man guns, you can argue with the ether. It is not worth it.

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[basketballRob]

Black's defensive EPM is +1.6 now. He's top 30 at 71.4% at the rim.

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[JoshuaPotter]

Black's defensive EPM is +1.6 now. He's top 30 at 71.4% at the rim.

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So you think some of this is cherry picked stats to make our guy look better? Or are we just finding what numbers are and comparing it to the rest.

Don't take what I am saying as a slight against you. There are those that have said that 20ppg can be an empty stat.

[neuraldarwinism]

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[JoshuaPotter]

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Favorite comment....

"he only made it because he was open".

Yeah, ok buddy.

[basketballRob]

Black's defensive EPM is +1.6 now. He's top 30 at 71.4% at the rim.

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So you think some of this is cherry picked stats to make our guy look better? Or are we just finding what numbers are and comparing it to the rest.

Don't take what I am saying as a slight against you. There are those that have said that 20ppg can be an empty stat.

There has been more cherry picking around here on his negative stats than positives. I just pointed out the positives. Anything negative is thoroughly scrutinized.

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[eyriq]

The best thing about AB is his availability. Built to last