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Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks

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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#61 » by stillgotgame » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:44 pm

Treebeard wrote:A thing I've noticed, is that he still manages to gain ground, even after contact. He can be a bit of a horse.


He’s definitely not content with just catching the ball. Getting better with more reps too, can see his confidence growing.
Kraft has similar traits, great to see.
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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#62 » by coolhandluke121 » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:57 pm

Treebeard wrote:A thing I've noticed, is that he still manages to gain ground, even after contact. He can be a bit of a horse.


I'm starting to see shades of Sterling Sharpe in him and I'm kind of surprised that I didn't see it sooner and that nobody else has mentioned it yet. You hesitate to ascribe that kind of upside to someone drafted so late, but hypothetical draft upside stops being relevant after a few years - and sometimes sooner.
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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#63 » by raysbookclub » Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:49 am

I'd be hesitant to compare anyone to Sterling Sharpe, even if he were a top-10 pick. Sterling was different. But I really like Wicks too!
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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#64 » by stillgotgame » Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:07 pm

A little throwback to Wicks at Virginia. He forced almost as many missed tackles with this play as MHJ (5) did all season.



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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#65 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:20 pm

stillgotgame wrote:A little throwback to Wicks at Virginia. He forced almost as many missed tackles with this play as MHJ (5) did all season.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kxGeVPBQ584


Impressive. Those eight missed tackles on the year almost make up for the 23% drop rate and three (3) contested catches on 72 targets. (MHJr was 8.2%, 13, and 114).
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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#66 » by stillgotgame » Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:39 pm

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stillgotgame wrote:A little throwback to Wicks at Virginia. He forced almost as many missed tackles with this play as MHJ (5) did all season.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kxGeVPBQ584


Impressive. Those eight missed tackles on the year almost make up for the 23% drop rate and three (3) contested catches on 72 targets. (MHJr was 8.2%, 13, and 114).


Nice to see you comparing Wicks, are 5th round pick, to a supposed generational talent.

MHJ has been hyped as a great receiver, casuals love him. But is he that great?

58.8 % catch rate (I know, blame the QB)
7.25% missed tackle rate (43rd of 44 receivers in NCAA with 100 targets in 2023)
Red zone - 4/11 inside the 10 yard line. If you want to blame the QB he was 4/11 last year with Stroud too.
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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#67 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:42 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
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stillgotgame wrote:A little throwback to Wicks at Virginia. He forced almost as many missed tackles with this play as MHJ (5) did all season.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kxGeVPBQ584


Impressive. Those eight missed tackles on the year almost make up for the 23% drop rate and three (3) contested catches on 72 targets. (MHJr was 8.2%, 13, and 114).


Nice to see you comparing Wicks, are 5th round pick, to a supposed generational talent.


Wait, I'M the one comparing the two?

stillgotgame wrote:MHJ has been hyped as a great receiver, casuals love him. But is he that great?


Yes. He's incredible. Watch some college football next fall, it's fun.
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Post#68 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:44 pm

"casuals love him".

JFC, man.
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Post#69 » by stillgotgame » Sat Apr 13, 2024 7:53 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:"casuals love him".

JFC, man.


5 missed tackles on 67 catches. That's AJ Dillon level. :lol:

Malik Nabors forced 30 missed tackles this season. Feel free to watch something besides the BIg Ten once in a while. It's fun.
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Post#70 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:04 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:"casuals love him".

JFC, man.


5 missed tackles on 67 catches. That's AJ Dillon level. :lol:

Malik Nabors forced 30 missed tackles this season. Feel free to watch something besides the BIg Ten once in a while. It's fun.


Yes, it is I, the guy who's been talking about SEC prospects three years before they're eligible, and calling my shot on Anthony Richardson, or Jayden Daniels as the #2 pick months before anyone had them there...yes, I'm the Big 10 guy.
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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#71 » by ReasonablySober » Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:10 pm

TBH, if Daniels goes #2 no one is gonna be able to tell me **** for at least a whole year.
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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#72 » by stillgotgame » Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:36 pm

Wicks’ speed coach:

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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#73 » by stillgotgame » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:28 am

Outsider perspective, lots of praise.

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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#74 » by Isocleas2 » Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:27 am

Watson drawing safety help running those deep routes and Reed/Wicks/Musgrave carving them up underneath is going to be fun to watch this year.
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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#75 » by jimmybones » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:35 am

Wicks gives me serious Davante vibes with the route running/footwork and physical size. Would not be shocked at all if he evolves into a number one option dude
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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#77 » by ReddRum » Fri Jul 5, 2024 10:06 pm

Isocleas2 wrote:Watson drawing safety help running those deep routes and Reed/Wicks/Musgrave carving them up underneath is going to be fun to watch this year.


Agreed but don't forget about Doubs!
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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#78 » by stillgotgame » Sat Jul 6, 2024 12:38 pm

Speed data converted to 40 yard time infers Wicks runs a 4.47.

https://josephferraiola.substack.com/p/linear-play-speed-adjusted-40-model?sort=new
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Re: Round 5 - #159 - Dontayvion Wicks 

Post#79 » by jimmybones » Sat Jul 13, 2024 2:11 pm

I'm putting on paper right now that I think Wicks emerges as a number one option, this year. His combo of physical tools and route running makes me think he has the highest upside of all of our WR as an all around guy. I have Reed right behind him, but Wicks physical size (and feet) give him the edge as far as a guy that can reliably get open. I love Doubs but our most upside is with Wicks and Reed emerging as stars and Doubs being a reliable and steady third guy, thinking Donald Driver vibes here.

Watson is the biggest wild card, his potential is anywhere from a #1 guy to a bust. I view him as a luxury weapon, his physical gifts are incredible but I don't trust him. I think he can still be useful as a guy who just scares the defense into having to stretch the field to follow him and occasionally hits a homerun but as far as a guy I'd trust to go to on 3rd down I have him below Wicks, Reed and Doubs.

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