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Post#561 » by Archx » Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:54 am

daoneandonly wrote:Some type of 3 way where 3rd team gets Kyrie, Jazz get assets, we get Lauri and junk filler like THT? Even that, dont like Lauri's due a new contract and can he be the 2nd guy to Luka? But moot anyways because AInge will forever ask for an arm, leg, organ, hair, Alexa echo, headphones, etc.


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Post#562 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:50 am

Archx wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Some type of 3 way where 3rd team gets Kyrie, Jazz get assets, we get Lauri and junk filler like THT? Even that, dont like Lauri's due a new contract and can he be the 2nd guy to Luka? But moot anyways because AInge will forever ask for an arm, leg, organ, hair, Alexa echo, headphones, etc.


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Post#563 » by Teffer10 » Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:30 am

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Bob8 wrote:I would say that joy for basketball is more important for basketball player than religion. Someone taking off more or less 4 years isn't looking like he likes basketball that much.

John Stockton and Hakeem were very religious but also professionals and commited to their job, but Isaac is way too politically active while playing for my liking...

Isaac is nothing compared to Walton and Jabbar when it comes to politics while playing.
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Post#564 » by Mavrelous » Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:36 am

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Bob8 wrote:I would say that joy for basketball is more important for basketball player than religion. Someone taking off more or less 4 years isn't looking like he likes basketball that much.

John Stockton and Hakeem were very religious but also professionals and commited to their job, but Isaac is way too politically active while playing for my liking...

Isaac is nothing compared to Walton and Jabbar when it comes to politics while playing.

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Post#565 » by Bob8 » Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:04 am

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Mavrelous wrote:
Bob8 wrote:I would say that joy for basketball is more important for basketball player than religion. Someone taking off more or less 4 years isn't looking like he likes basketball that much.

John Stockton and Hakeem were very religious but also professionals and commited to their job, but Isaac is way too politically active while playing for my liking...

Isaac is nothing compared to Walton and Jabbar when it comes to politics while playing.


Politics is not a problem, if a player is giving everything on the court. I understand injuries, but not playing almost nothing in 4 years shows that he's not 100% in basketball.
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Post#566 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Dec 19, 2023 4:20 pm

Kenneth Lofton is there for the taking, yet the Mavs are gonna keep scrubs/washed Players like Morris,Powell,Holmes and Maxi :banghead: ...cut Morris ,get Lofton
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Post#567 » by dirkules_41 » Tue Dec 19, 2023 6:09 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:Kenneth Lofton is there for the taking, yet the Mavs are gonna keep scrubs/washed Players like Morris,Powell,Holmes and Maxi :banghead: ...cut Morris ,get Lofton

Lofton is like 5'3 in heels and can't shoot the 3. What exactly do you suggest we do with him?
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Post#568 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:11 pm

dirkules_41 wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:Kenneth Lofton is there for the taking, yet the Mavs are gonna keep scrubs/washed Players like Morris,Powell,Holmes and Maxi :banghead: ...cut Morris ,get Lofton

Lofton is like 5'3 in heels and can't shoot the 3. What exactly do you suggest we do with him?


You don't need him to shoot the three...you need him to score in the paint and rebound,which is what he does despite the lack of size(unlike Powell)...Chucking threes is this teams problem...Love by the three,die by the three...they ain't the GS Warriors,and even they can score in different ways(midrange,paint)

Btw, he's Luka's size(taller than Grant)...and Luka can score down low and get rebounds better than taller Players,cause he can put himself in a good position
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Post#569 » by dirkules_41 » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:14 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:
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BliscoSantos wrote:Kenneth Lofton is there for the taking, yet the Mavs are gonna keep scrubs/washed Players like Morris,Powell,Holmes and Maxi :banghead: ...cut Morris ,get Lofton

Lofton is like 5'3 in heels and can't shoot the 3. What exactly do you suggest we do with him?


You don't need him to shoot the three...you need him to score in the paint and rebound,which is what he does despite the lack of size(unlike Powell)...Chucking threes is this teams problem...Love by the three,die by the three...they ain't the GS Warriors,and even they can score in different ways(midrange,paint)

Mate i'm as desperate as you for quality big men but unfortunately the dimension that Lofton is big in is not height. The Grizzlies aren't letting him go for no reason - he's fringe NBA talent unfortunately.
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Post#570 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:17 pm

dirkules_41 wrote:
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dirkules_41 wrote:Lofton is like 5'3 in heels and can't shoot the 3. What exactly do you suggest we do with him?


You don't need him to shoot the three...you need him to score in the paint and rebound,which is what he does despite the lack of size(unlike Powell)...Chucking threes is this teams problem...Love by the three,die by the three...they ain't the GS Warriors,and even they can score in different ways(midrange,paint)

Mate i'm as desperate as you for quality big men but unfortunately the dimension that Lofton is big in is not height. The Grizzlies aren't letting him go for no reason - he's fringe NBA talent unfortunately.


Mavs can't get top Players because they lack assets, that's why they need to take a gamble on someone low...replacing Morris with Lofton is a gamble you have to take... hell,the Lakers are looking to pick him up,and they seem to evaluate Younger Player better than the Mavs(Reddish looks ok)
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Post#571 » by Mavrelous » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:19 pm

Powell is better than Lofton at everything except post scoring, which isn't really relevant to the Mavs.
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Post#572 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:38 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Powell is better than Lofton at everything except post scoring, which isn't really relevant to the Mavs.


He really isn't a better rebounder,despite the size advantage and is also a terrible shooter...but yeah,he has size,which helps on D,although he's not good on D either(help D ,maybe...one on one not)
Lofton shouldn't be playing the C(unless it's against small ball lineups),he should be able to help a couple of minutes as a PF(instead of Morris)
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Post#573 » by Mavrelous » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:40 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Powell is better than Lofton at everything except post scoring, which isn't really relevant to the Mavs.


He really isn't a better rebounder,despite the size advantage and is also a terrible shooter...but yeah,he has size,which helps on D,although he's not good on D either(help D ,maybe...one on one not)
Lofton shouldn't be playing the C(unless it's against small ball lineups),he should be able to help a couple of minutes as a PF(instead of Morris)

He lacks mobility to be a forward.
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Post#574 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:50 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
BliscoSantos wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Powell is better than Lofton at everything except post scoring, which isn't really relevant to the Mavs.


He really isn't a better rebounder,despite the size advantage and is also a terrible shooter...but yeah,he has size,which helps on D,although he's not good on D either(help D ,maybe...one on one not)
Lofton shouldn't be playing the C(unless it's against small ball lineups),he should be able to help a couple of minutes as a PF(instead of Morris)

He lacks mobility to be a forward.


Morris is mobile? Fact of the matter is they have do something,make some changes ,cause this C,PF rotation ain't working

I think they made the mistakes by resigning Powell and waiving McGee...yes,McGee was terrible(almost unplayable most of last season), but he did pick up his game when Kyrie got to the Mavs...he had some Nice games of the bench,looked like he was starting to figure out his role,but then for some inexplicable reason received DNP a couple games in a row,despite playing good...maybe it was an attitude problem,who knows,but Kidd certainly doesn't know how to adjust the gameplan to the opponent or form of the Players...he's set in his ways
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Post#575 » by Mike lorenzo » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:52 pm

Why would we want another small and mediocre center? If you want to make a bet, at least Kai Jones has a set of Skills that fits better with what we need, he can even play 4, in theory he could share the Court with Lively for a few minutes, against those gigantic teams
I won't pretend I've seen him play, but that coordination and athleticism is crazy...especially for Morris's place

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Post#576 » by 41Dirk41 » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:53 pm

Javale McGee was and is still a better basketball player than Powell... Just like Holmes, who is beyond him in the rotation once again without reason.
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Post#577 » by Mavrelous » Tue Dec 19, 2023 7:59 pm

McGee waiving wasn't for basketbaĺl reasons, clearly there were locker room problems.
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Post#578 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:00 pm

Mike lorenzo wrote:Why would we want another small and mediocre center? If you want to make a bet, at least Kai Jones has a set of Skills that fits better with what we need, he can even play 4, in theory he could share the Court with Lively for a few minutes, against those gigantic teams


Cause this is someone who you can get for free...Mavs won't get Kai Jones without overpaying,same for Stewart or any other Player...and they really don't have any picks left as it is(so they have to be carefull how they use them) and their Young guys value(apart from Lively who is untradeable,as he should be) has plumeted
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Post#579 » by BliscoSantos » Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:02 pm

Mavrelous wrote:McGee waiving wasn't for basketbaĺl reasons, clearly there were locker room problems.


Based on his comments when he played against Mavs I'd agree...bit this is Kidd's fault...he's suppose to be a players coach,he should have figure it out,solved it
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Post#580 » by Mavrelous » Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:04 pm

BliscoSantos wrote:
Mike lorenzo wrote:Why would we want another small and mediocre center? If you want to make a bet, at least Kai Jones has a set of Skills that fits better with what we need, he can even play 4, in theory he could share the Court with Lively for a few minutes, against those gigantic teams


Cause this is someone who you can get for free...Mavs won't get Kai Jones without overpaying,same for Stewart or any other Player...and they really don't have any picks left as it is(so they have to be carefull how they use them) and their Young guys value(apart from Lively who is untradeable,as he should be) has plumeted

Kai Jones is a FA, he had mental breakdown of some sort and was cut from his team, he's probabely doing therapy.
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