Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread

[41Dirk41]

McGee waiving wasn't for basketbaĺl reasons, clearly there were locker room problems.

Kidd wanted him badly, we overpay him and waived after 1 year.

It's enough for understand how stupid is our coach.

[BliscoSantos]

Why would we want another small and mediocre center? If you want to make a bet, at least Kai Jones has a set of Skills that fits better with what we need, he can even play 4, in theory he could share the Court with Lively for a few minutes, against those gigantic teams

Cause this is someone who you can get for free...Mavs won't get Kai Jones without overpaying,same for Stewart or any other Player...and they really don't have any picks left as it is(so they have to be carefull how they use them) and their Young guys value(apart from Lively who is untradeable,as he should be) has plumeted

Kai Jones is a FA, he had mental breakdown of some sort and was cut from his team, he's probabely doing therapy.

My bad...I was thinking about Richards from Hornets...my mistake...yeah,I don't want any part of him...seems like he had a complete mental breakdown,doubt he gets his act together based on all the things reported...his Play definetely doesn't warabt taking a gamble based on his mental state

[tleikheen]

Only 3 teams give up more rebounds than the Mavs and only 6 teams get less rebounds than the Mavs .

A backup Center would be nice but a better ,bigger player is needed to replace Grant Williams at PF. His 3.7 rpg doesnt cut it when the Mavs are getting killed on the boards.
Kyle Kuzma 6'10 in shoes avgs 6rpg and avged 8.5 rpg 2 yrs ago. As his offensive responsibilities grew is rebounds lessened .With the Mavs his rebounds would be more important.

Mavs need to move on Kuzma before Philadelphia moves on him. He's the best big forward out there this trade season .

[BliscoSantos]

Only 3 teams give up more rebounds than the Mavs and only 6 teams get less rebounds than the Mavs .

A backup Center would be nice but a better ,bigger player is needed to replace Grant Williams at PF. His 3.7 rpg doesnt cut it when the Mavs are getting killed on the boards.
Kyle Kuzma 6'10 in shoes avgs 6rpg and avged 8.5 rpg 2 yrs ago. As his offensive responsibilities grew is rebounds lessened .With the Mavs his rebounds would be more important.

Mavs need to move on Kuzma before Philadelphia moves on him. He's the best big forward out there this trade season .

Mavs have one first available to trade, it's better to make small changes now ,and after the 2024 draft they'll be able to offer two first rounders(which could get them someone who could actually help)...doubt wizzards would take one first for Kuzma and he's definetely not Worth more than that

[tleikheen]

Mavs dont have the luxury of NON ACTION while Luka plays for them . He's that effin good. Waiting out another yr while having Kyrie and Luka together makes no sense . Mavs need a player entering his prime yrs and not exiting their prime yrs .
Locked on Wizards guys have said only Coulibaly and Avidja are off the trade table.
Also Kuzma is on a good contract at 25 million. Trading for him ideally we get rid of Kleber or Holmes contract to go with maybe 2 of the 3 young guys (O Max,Green ,Hardy) and a draft pick.

[BliscoSantos]

Mavs dont have the luxury of NON ACTION while Luka plays for them . He's that effin good. Waiting out another yr while having Kyrie and Luka together makes no sense . Mavs need a player entering his prime yrs and not exiting their prime yrs .
Locked on Wizards guys have said only Coulibaly and Avidja are off the trade table.
Also Kuzma is on a good contract at 25 million. Trading for him ideally we get rid of Kleber or Holmes contract to go with maybe 2 of the 3 young guys (O Max,Green ,Hardy) and a draft pick.

Kyle Kuzma won't make Mavs a contender...maybe they win a couple games more, that's it...Kyrie said that before he extended Nico talked to him about possible Players he likes,would like...I think Nico talked about it with Luka too...they knew they won't be able to make significant additions this year,but I think they have a list of Players they'd like and I don't think Kuzma is on that list

[41Dirk41]

Kuzma is absolutely not in that list for sure

Maybe for cheap but don't give up FRPs for him please.

[BliscoSantos]

Collins is on a trade block again...if he can be had for something like Holmes,Kleber and seconds it's Worth the risk...he can Play the PF next to Lively,Grant can come of the bench(I think it Suits him more)
Luka is posting up a lot less this year,because he slimed down...Mavs have no one(apart from Lively) that's posting up the opposing Players in the paint...they could use a PF who can post up

[41Dirk41]

Collins is on a trade block again...if he can be had for something like Holmes,Kleber and seconds it's Worth the risk...he can Play the PF next to Lively,Grant can come of the bench(I think it Suits him more)
Luka is posting up a lot less this year,because he slimed down...Mavs have no one(apart from Lively) that's posting up the opposing Players in the paint...they could use a PF who can post up

Will be there a lot of good trades at the TDL like every year... I just hope that the "we love our guys in blue" failure plan will no longer be an option.

[BliscoSantos]

Collins is on a trade block again...if he can be had for something like Holmes,Kleber and seconds it's Worth the risk...he can Play the PF next to Lively,Grant can come of the bench(I think it Suits him more)
Luka is posting up a lot less this year,because he slimed down...Mavs have no one(apart from Lively) that's posting up the opposing Players in the paint...they could use a PF who can post up

Will be there a lot of good trades at the TDL like every year... I just hope that the "we love our guys in blue" failure plan will no longer be an option.

I agree...it happens far too often that those Players start playing better(for a while) and then they become "too valuable", before eventually coming down to earth,reverting to their old Play...we've seen this before...this roster has holes ,which year after year they fail to adress...they were lucky they hit the jackpot with Lively(he is playing good a lot faster than we hoped) ,which Just shows how terrible their big men actually are....Mavs have been a terrible rebounding and D team for the last couple of years...I think a lot of it has to do with size, they're too small, that's why they get bullied in the paint...Big teams,teams with size are having the Best results this year,yet the Mavs still try to Play Iike GS,you live by the three,you die by the three

[41Dirk41]

Collins is on a trade block again...if he can be had for something like Holmes,Kleber and seconds it's Worth the risk...he can Play the PF next to Lively,Grant can come of the bench(I think it Suits him more)
Luka is posting up a lot less this year,because he slimed down...Mavs have no one(apart from Lively) that's posting up the opposing Players in the paint...they could use a PF who can post up

Will be there a lot of good trades at the TDL like every year... I just hope that the "we love our guys in blue" failure plan will no longer be an option.

I agree...it happens far too often that those Players start playing better(for a while) and then they become "too valuable", before eventually coming down to earth,reverting to their old Play...we've seen this before...this roster has holes ,which year after year they fail to adress...they were lucky they hit the jackpot with Lively(he is playing good a lot faster than we hoped) ,which Just shows how terrible their big men actually are....Mavs have been a terrible rebounding and D team for the last couple of years...I think a lot of it has to do with size, they're too small, that's why they get bullied in the paint...Big teams,teams with size are having the Best results this year,yet the Mavs still try to Play Iike GS,you live by the three,you die by the three

I don't think some people here understand how bad were our bigs rotation in last 4/5 years, i can understand the misunderstanding from forum posters but it is unacceptable from well paid employer.

There's not much to say... So it's all intentional or we're talking about a completely failed organization.

Luka asked for a vet big this summer and they resigned Powell. It's just over the stupidity
because besides it sucks everybody know that Kidd will find a way to play him and i start to think it's all wanted by him so he know he is a motivation for our Ls and he can still retain his job.

We were very lucky that DLIII is miles ahead from a normal rookie path but it's still a rookie and he has up and down.

There will be decent and cheap bigs availables for sure but what i think is does our FO really intend to look for a big?
Probably not.

[ozwizard8]

Luka asked for a vet big this summer and they resigned Powell. It's just over the stupidity

haha acting fool as always.

wow Luka asked for a vet big and Mavs did not get him a great one!
hOW CAn MAvs not sIGN Bam-A.Davis-Myles Turner for vet min?

Everyone act surprised like 41Dirk41 !!!
Wow Mavs team with $65m/year contracts of THJ+Luka signing Kyrie for $40m/year this off-season and then not having any trade assets or cap space to sign a proper big man!

Who would've thought that paying $105m for Luka+THJ+Kyrie was not a wise choice??!

***

For any other sane person: Mavs team must trade Kyrie!

Mavs need another fool GM, or a new owner acting fool. I dont know maybe someone desperate.
Talking to the existence, I wish Masai would make another wrong move and go for Kyrie.

Raptors really **** up with their Poetl trade. Spent draft picks for not even making playoffs. Team still sucks. They also lost FVV and their PG need is so obvious. They are not getting king's ransom for their Siakam, OG etc to rebuild.
Maybe Masai would do another wrong move and go for Kyrie??

Kyrie being lunatic, antisemitist, antivax, flat-earth, injury-prone, playoff loser for last 6-7 years are enough reason to not even think about Kyrie. But then again, some GMs act desperate. Poetl was never the guy to fix Raptors problems but they went for it. Who knows maybe they'll bite for Kyrie??

[41Dirk41]

Luka asked for a vet big this summer and they resigned Powell. It's just over the stupidity

haha acting fool as always.

wow Luka asked for a vet big and Mavs did not get him a great one!
hOW CAn MAvs not sIGN Bam-A.Davis-Myles Turner for vet min?

Everyone act surprised like 41Dirk41 !!!
Wow Mavs team with $65m/year contracts of THJ+Luka signing Kyrie for $40m/year this off-season and then not having any trade assets or cap space to sign a proper big man!

Who would've thought that paying $105m for Luka+THJ+Kyrie was not a wise choice??!

***

For any other sane person: Mavs team must trade Kyrie!

Mavs need another fool GM, or a new owner acting fool. I dont know maybe someone desperate.
Talking to the existence, I wish Masai would make another wrong move and go for Kyrie.

Raptors really **** up with their Poetl trade. Spent draft picks for not even making playoffs. Team still sucks. They also lost FVV and their PG need is so obvious. They are not getting king's ransom for their Siakam, OG etc to rebuild.
Maybe Masai would do another wrong move and go for Kyrie??

Kyrie being lunatic, antisemitist, antivax, flat-earth, injury-prone, playoff loser for last 6-7 years are enough reason to not even think about Kyrie. But then again, some GMs act desperate. Poetl was never the guy to fix Raptors problems but they went for it. Who knows maybe they'll bite for Kyrie??

Man, you can't even read...i wrote a "vet big" not a "vet min big" ... We had picks, MLE and young guys to trade last summer.

I'm not surprise that you can't even understand the simply things, next time i will try with the multiplication tables and the alphabet

[BliscoSantos]

Luka asked for a vet big this summer and they resigned Powell. It's just over the stupidity

haha acting fool as always.

wow Luka asked for a vet big and Mavs did not get him a great one!
hOW CAn MAvs not sIGN Bam-A.Davis-Myles Turner for vet min?

Everyone act surprised like 41Dirk41 !!!
Wow Mavs team with $65m/year contracts of THJ+Luka signing Kyrie for $40m/year this off-season and then not having any trade assets or cap space to sign a proper big man!

Who would've thought that paying $105m for Luka+THJ+Kyrie was not a wise choice??!

***

For any other sane person: Mavs team must trade Kyrie!

Mavs need another fool GM, or a new owner acting fool. I dont know maybe someone desperate.
Talking to the existence, I wish Masai would make another wrong move and go for Kyrie.

Raptors really **** up with their Poetl trade. Spent draft picks for not even making playoffs. Team still sucks. They also lost FVV and their PG need is so obvious. They are not getting king's ransom for their Siakam, OG etc to rebuild.
Maybe Masai would do another wrong move and go for Kyrie??

Kyrie being lunatic, antisemitist, antivax, flat-earth, injury-prone, playoff loser for last 6-7 years are enough reason to not even think about Kyrie. But then again, some GMs act desperate. Poetl was never the guy to fix Raptors problems but they went for it. Who knows maybe they'll bite for Kyrie??

Kyrie's been great for the Mavs...Just because you don't like him, doesn't mean he's wasn't a good signing...Luka and Kai can work,and yes the big men are the problem...Lively,a rookie who still has ways to improve,has become by far the Best big men on the team...what does that tell you about Mavs big men from past seasons...you say signing Kyrie was a mistake,but who could they have traded for with their limited assets...it was a low price to pay to get a superstar Player...nobody said Mavs should get an all star big, we Just wanted someone better than Powell...there were options that weren't expensive(Biyombo is one) , but the Mavs choose Powell...Kyrie's contract really isn't that bad,Timmy's is soon gonna be an expiring...on the other hand Mavs are paying two big men(Kleber and Holmes) 11 and 12mio to cheer for the team...Kleber's been useless ever since they extended him(they did it too soon,should have waited) and Holmes looks like he's done

[BliscoSantos]

I still think Kidd(coaching team) is the biggest weakness this team has...the worst thing that happened to this team was getting to the WCF because it fooled everybody in the orgnization they were close to contending than they actually were

A better coach could get this team to Play better...we know most Players are limited(on O), that Luka,Kyrie and Dante are the only ones who can create something for others(despite them trying to make Hardy a PG when it's clear he's more suited to be a SG)..a coach with some O scheme,set plays could get a lot more out of this team,instead they're relying on individual brilliance from Luka and Kai...Just Look at how the Sixers are playing under the New coach

[41Dirk41]

I still think Kidd(coaching team) is the biggest weakness this team has...the worst thing that happened to this team was getting to the WCF because it fooled everybody in the orgnization they were close to contending than they actually were

A better coach could get this team to Play better...we know most Players are limited(on O), that Luka,Kyrie and Dante are the only ones who can create something for others(despite them trying to make Hardy a PG when it's clear he's more suited to be a SG)..a coach with some O scheme,set plays could get a lot more out of this team,instead they're relying on individual brilliance from Luka and Kai...Just Look at how the Sixers are playing under the New coach

Agree.

That run was overrated for sure.

Kidd is bad but they lost Brunson after the WCF and thinked that Ntilikina can replace him plus resigned all our horrible bigs.
Those were the worst moves i've never seen from Tyson Chandler departure.

[ozwizard8]

Luka asked for a vet big this summer and they resigned Powell. It's just over the stupidity

haha acting fool as always.

wow Luka asked for a vet big and Mavs did not get him a great one!
hOW CAn MAvs not sIGN Bam-A.Davis-Myles Turner for vet min?

Everyone act surprised like 41Dirk41 !!!
Wow Mavs team with $65m/year contracts of THJ+Luka signing Kyrie for $40m/year this off-season and then not having any trade assets or cap space to sign a proper big man!

Who would've thought that paying $105m for Luka+THJ+Kyrie was not a wise choice??!

***

For any other sane person: Mavs team must trade Kyrie!

Mavs need another fool GM, or a new owner acting fool. I dont know maybe someone desperate.
Talking to the existence, I wish Masai would make another wrong move and go for Kyrie.

Raptors really **** up with their Poetl trade. Spent draft picks for not even making playoffs. Team still sucks. They also lost FVV and their PG need is so obvious. They are not getting king's ransom for their Siakam, OG etc to rebuild.
Maybe Masai would do another wrong move and go for Kyrie??

Kyrie being lunatic, antisemitist, antivax, flat-earth, injury-prone, playoff loser for last 6-7 years are enough reason to not even think about Kyrie. But then again, some GMs act desperate. Poetl was never the guy to fix Raptors problems but they went for it. Who knows maybe they'll bite for Kyrie??

Man, you can't even read...i wrote a "vet big" not a "vet min big" ... We had picks, MLE and young guys to trade last summer.

I'm not surprise that you can't even understand the simply things, next time i will try with the multiplication tables and the alphabet

No you are the one that cannot read nor comprehend. There is no max cap space to sign a good veteran big.
Luka asking for vet big does not mean anything. This is not Real Madrid or Euroleague. You cannot simply acquire a good player with your extra money. Cap space rules are there.
If you pay Kyrie $40m + $65 to Luka/THJ then you do not have any chance to get a good big man. MLE is not going to cut it. Mavs did not have any wing player due to Kyrie trade anyway so they signed Williams.

All in all you spend all money to Luka-THJ-Kyrie and then acting like a 5 year old child and asking why Mavs dont have good vet big.

I'm not surprise that you can't even understand the simply things, next time i will try with the multiplication tables and the alphabet

Dude you cannot even write proper English while trying to insult others. G T F O! You are fool!

[ozwizard8]

Luka asked for a vet big this summer and they resigned Powell. It's just over the stupidity

haha acting fool as always.

wow Luka asked for a vet big and Mavs did not get him a great one!
hOW CAn MAvs not sIGN Bam-A.Davis-Myles Turner for vet min?

Everyone act surprised like 41Dirk41 !!!
Wow Mavs team with $65m/year contracts of THJ+Luka signing Kyrie for $40m/year this off-season and then not having any trade assets or cap space to sign a proper big man!

Who would've thought that paying $105m for Luka+THJ+Kyrie was not a wise choice??!

***

For any other sane person: Mavs team must trade Kyrie!

Mavs need another fool GM, or a new owner acting fool. I dont know maybe someone desperate.
Talking to the existence, I wish Masai would make another wrong move and go for Kyrie.

Raptors really **** up with their Poetl trade. Spent draft picks for not even making playoffs. Team still sucks. They also lost FVV and their PG need is so obvious. They are not getting king's ransom for their Siakam, OG etc to rebuild.
Maybe Masai would do another wrong move and go for Kyrie??

Kyrie being lunatic, antisemitist, antivax, flat-earth, injury-prone, playoff loser for last 6-7 years are enough reason to not even think about Kyrie. But then again, some GMs act desperate. Poetl was never the guy to fix Raptors problems but they went for it. Who knows maybe they'll bite for Kyrie??

Kyrie's been great for the Mavs...Just because you don't like him, doesn't mean he's wasn't a good signing...Luka and Kai can work,and yes the big men are the problem...Lively,a rookie who still has ways to improve,has become by far the Best big men on the team...what does that tell you about Mavs big men from past seasons...you say signing Kyrie was a mistake,but who could they have traded for with their limited assets...it was a low price to pay to get a superstar Player...nobody said Mavs should get an all star big, we Just wanted someone better than Powell...there were options that weren't expensive(Biyombo is one) , but the Mavs choose Powell...Kyrie's contract really isn't that bad,Timmy's is soon gonna be an expiring...on the other hand Mavs are paying two big men(Kleber and Holmes) 11 and 12mio to cheer for the team...Kleber's been useless ever since they extended him(they did it too soon,should have waited) and Holmes looks like he's done

This is NBA not ACB or Euroleague. Real Madrid may see the need for a big man and spend a 20% extra budget to sign a solid veteran big. In Euroleague, you do not mind too much about whether a player making too much if your team has more resources than others.

Adding Kyrie without losing anything is a plus in the Euroleague. In NBA, adding Kyrie means you lose trade assets, unprotected picks and HUGE SALARY CAP SPACE.
So adding Kyrie means losing a lot of things. In this case, Mavs lose the capability to get solid frontcourt players.
Some stupid kids here can act like fools about why Mavs not signing a solid big man. The reality is NBA cap space and how trade assets work.

Mavs team had $65m/year committed to Luka-THJ. Now you add $40m with Kyrie. Total is $105m.
Not enough money left for SF-PF-C rotation. How do you sign a good big man with no money with NBA rules?

**** Kyrie who cares about him personally to love/hate. I was not commenting about Kyrie when he was the problem of Boston or Brooklyn. After Kyrie is traded out, I am not going to comment about him. I support Mavs, Luka. who cares Kyrie?? he'll go and cause another disaster.
Investing him made Mavs from 4th seed to 11th seed. My problem is Mavs team investing in Kyrie and **** its chances to succeed with Luka.
If Mavs were able to add Kyrie without paying his salary, he'd be positive. But no he is a MAX PLAYER, and costed assets. This team needs improvement on SF-PF-C rotation. Good/elite players cost trade assets and salary cap. No feasible way to find enough frontcourt help without sending Kyrie out.

[41Dirk41]

haha acting fool as always.

wow Luka asked for a vet big and Mavs did not get him a great one!
hOW CAn MAvs not sIGN Bam-A.Davis-Myles Turner for vet min?

Everyone act surprised like 41Dirk41 !!!
Wow Mavs team with $65m/year contracts of THJ+Luka signing Kyrie for $40m/year this off-season and then not having any trade assets or cap space to sign a proper big man!

Who would've thought that paying $105m for Luka+THJ+Kyrie was not a wise choice??!

***

For any other sane person: Mavs team must trade Kyrie!

Mavs need another fool GM, or a new owner acting fool. I dont know maybe someone desperate.
Talking to the existence, I wish Masai would make another wrong move and go for Kyrie.

Raptors really **** up with their Poetl trade. Spent draft picks for not even making playoffs. Team still sucks. They also lost FVV and their PG need is so obvious. They are not getting king's ransom for their Siakam, OG etc to rebuild.
Maybe Masai would do another wrong move and go for Kyrie??

Kyrie being lunatic, antisemitist, antivax, flat-earth, injury-prone, playoff loser for last 6-7 years are enough reason to not even think about Kyrie. But then again, some GMs act desperate. Poetl was never the guy to fix Raptors problems but they went for it. Who knows maybe they'll bite for Kyrie??

Man, you can't even read...i wrote a "vet big" not a "vet min big" ... We had picks, MLE and young guys to trade last summer.

I'm not surprise that you can't even understand the simply things, next time i will try with the multiplication tables and the alphabet

No you are the one that cannot read nor comprehend. There is no max cap space to sign a good veteran big.
Luka asking for vet big does not mean anything. This is not Real Madrid or Euroleague. You cannot simply acquire a good player with your extra money. Cap space rules are there.
If you pay Kyrie $40m + $65 to Luka/THJ then you do not have any chance to get a good big man. MLE is not going to cut it. Mavs did not have any wing player due to Kyrie trade anyway so they signed Williams.

All in all you spend all money to Luka-THJ-Kyrie and then acting like a 5 year old child and asking why Mavs dont have good vet big.

I'm not surprise that you can't even understand the simply things, next time i will try with the multiplication tables and the alphabet

Dude you cannot even write proper English while trying to insult others. G T F O! You are fool!

We don't need max cap space for sign vet big, there a lot of ways.

Yes, i'm a fool because I'm trying to respond to someone who doesn't have the slightest intention of understanding and continues to write the same things for 1 year. I'll pass. You win.

[mxr2000]

Beside trades option we should also look what is available outside the NBA remember we found that way Salah Mejri in Europe what's is available out there that we might sign for the minimun