2023-2024 Regular Season Game 26: Miami Heat (15-12) at Orlando Magic (16-9) - 7pm

[Bergmaniac]

Two terrible offensive games in a row after Ingles got injured. Coincidence? Far from the only issue, obviously, but the playmaking seems so much worse when he is not playing and we sure could have used his shooting in these 2 brick fests.

These games showed again how badly we need more shooting. Bully ball is nice and all, but it's very, very hard to beat good defensive teams when you can't make threes and it's really physically demanding too.

Banchero looked awful out there last night, just an embarassing game by him.

Franz's 3 ball is just not looking good these days at all, so many of his misses are by a lot and his shot seems too flat. He was better than Banchero, but still quite subpar overall.

I think Wendell touched the ball in the frontcourt only two or three times in total during his first stint on the court, it was weird. It seemed like Paolo and Franz had forgotten how to play with him. I don't think he wa

Playing 3 centres is not a great idea, Mosley needs to make a decison.

A rare subpar game defensively for Isaac.

Harris is a complete ghost on offense lately, missing shots is one thing but he is not even trying to get shots off, he has taken 10 shots in total in the last 4 games where he played 88 total minutes. Mosley should tell him "You either start shooting or I am not playing you". Or just bench him right away.

[JF5]

Two terrible offensive games in a row after Ingles got injured. Coincidence? Far from the only issue, obviously, but the playmaking seems so much worse when he is not playing and we sure could have used his shooting in these 2 brick fests.

These games showed again how badly we need more shooting. Bully ball is nice and all, but it's very, very hard to beat good defensive teams when you can't make threes and it's really physically demanding too.

Banchero looked awful out there last night, just an embarassing game by him.

Franz's 3 ball is just not looking good these days at all, so many of his misses are by a lot and his shot seems too flat. He was better than Banchero, but still quite subpar overall.

I think Wendell touched the ball in the frontcourt only two or three times in total during his first stint on the court, it was weird. It seemed like Paolo and Franz had forgotten how to play with him. I don't think he wa

Playing 3 centres is not a great idea, Mosley needs to make a decison.

A rare subpar game defensively for Isaac.

Harris is a complete ghost on offense lately, missing shots is one thing but he is not even trying to get shots off, he has taken 10 shots in total in the last 4 games where he played 88 total minutes. Mosley should tell him "You either start shooting or I am not playing you". Or just bench him right away.

The team has been struggling to score since the Brooklyn game. This whole month outside of 1 game they've been subpar offensively.

[RichCollab]

We need to win when we are fully healthy and we need to win where we don’t play on full over drive.

[Skybox]

Celts have 5 guys that can average 20 ppg.. we have.. maybe 2 right now and that's when Franz isn't struggling

True…I think of it like they have “5 guys that can score 30 on any given night-as needed”. Derrick White is really good example…I’ll guess he averages 15-17ppg BUT no one will be surprised to read he scored 30 one night. Jrue the same…That’s how Tatum & Brown run wild (and why Paolo & Franz have “off nights”)…we desperately need at least one second-level scoring threat that defenses have to respect. Suggs teases us a couple times a month and maybe he’ll get there -but not yet. The idea that he and Black bring so much defense that it can work without reliable backcourt shooting in the starting lineup is ludicrous.

ORLs defensive intensity was amazing for fifteen games…just can’t sustain that like some Univ of Virginia squad. It’s not an NBA reality for a whole season. Just like loading up with “ball movers” and “cutters” is only a small step without shooters.

I don’t think Lavine or D Mitchell is the way, but a Herro or Simons type would balance our offense and Paolo & Franz wouldn’t have such awful “off nights” against good teams. Quickley would be even better as he’s as good a defender as our two present starters, but he can also shoot…if we’re reluctant to take that big a swing for a guy young enough to grow with us, Brogdon should certainly be available and, if not for age and injury history, would be a near perfect fit.

[JoshuaPotter]

Oof. What an egg.

Good thing this thing isn't anywhere near a finished product in terms of youth, and peak. Still way ahead of where I expected we would be.

Get it together guys (the team) it will be OK.

This is one of the first few games I asked myself what Mosely is doing with substitutions. I think I understand it, but the more I do, the more I question it. At some point, he needs to "let the players play out of it". The mantra of "shooters gonna shoot" comes to mind. Then again, maybe nobody on our team has that shooting mindset or we feed off each others bricks carrying us lower and lower.

For what its worth. I need someone who watches games to comment. How does Caleb look? I read such good things about him. He seems like he is doing well stat wise. But when I listen in, I constantly ask myself "Caleb what have you done?" His 38% 3 ball feels emotionally lost in the turmoil of perhaps the game he is trying to catch us up in?

[3ddman23]

Only 1 game separates the 4-7 seed. 2 games above the 8th seed. And 3.5 games above the 9th play in spot. They need to snap out of this quick or it could get ugly fast.

[DiplomaticMagic]

The Linsanity run is over.

Honestly Im looking to trade WCJ this deadline.

I get its hard to bench either Moe or Goga right now. But having them both have minutes backing up C aint it.

We cant defend 3 pointers and we can't shoot them either. So frustrating.

Ugh really had to lose to the Heat without Jimmy. I live close to Miami and Im the only Magic fan in a sea full of heat fans. Im going to hear it, **** you Magic!

[Optimus_Steel]

People may not want to hear this but teams are clogging the lane and double and tripling Paolo and Franz and daring us to attempt not in rhythm 3s. Its not hard to see it and the team is taking the easy way out or taking the bait so to speak and settling for 3s to try to get it all back in a hurry, that's not our strength. WeHam..errrr....WePark....need to make a move to get those guys 3pt shooting for spacing because they are getting frustrated, and if they are frustrated its a blow out. There is a correlation with the team starting games really bad from the 3pt line and the energy level drops, defense slows down, feet look heavy, rotations slow or don't even happen so suddenly those teams are getting wide open 3s and the snowball effects takes off. Get this team some damm 3pt shooting.

[DiplomaticMagic]

If Suggs isnt playing with insane energy, we suck. And its hard to ask that from him every game.

[Bergmaniac]

In order to win, we need playoff type intensity, energy and defense especially when our already below average shooting gets worst.
And it's simply impossible to sustain that type of derense and energy in nba over 82 games.

And playing every game like it's playoffs wears you off both mentally and physically.

Spot on. You can win for a stretch playing this way, but it's really not sustainable long term.

Also, in the playoffs where everyone plays hard you can't win by just outhustling the opponent.

[jezzerinho]

In order to win, we need playoff type intensity, energy and defense especially when our already below average shooting gets worst.
And it's simply impossible to sustain that type of derense and energy in nba over 82 games.

And playing every game like it's playoffs wears you off both mentally and physically.

Spot on. You can win for a stretch playing this way, but it's really not sustainable long term.

Also, in the playoffs where everyone plays hard you can't win by just outhustling the opponent.

Agree.

[Furinkazan]

Jesus effin Crist .They should pay me for watching this game.My eyes bleed.
Hopefully they will bounce back but since our great winning streak it looks more and more like they are happy with what they acomplished....so season is over...and they can fkn coast now

[VFX]

It’s the point guard situation basically. I also don’t blame AB right now for where we are offensively. However, you cannot win games on defensive intensity alone. They need to move Fultz because he isn’t coming back and isn’t reliable. Gary Harris is borderline unplayable. Carter just isn’t the same yet.

Something has to be done about the point guard position specifically. There has to be more offense generated from players other than Paolo/Franz in the starting lineup. In November the bench + Suggs kinda carried us with Franz and Paolo playing exceptionally well. To have a more consistent offense they will need a point guard that can stretch the floor and not compromise the defense.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Easily the worst loss of the year. Just absolutely gave up with 5 mins left in the 2nd quarter and played like total idiots.

Wait until tomorrow.

In order to win, we need playoff type intensity, energy and defense especially when our already below average shooting gets worst.
And it's simply impossible to sustain that type of derense and energy in nba over 82 games.

And playing every game like it's playoffs wears you off both mentally and physically.

My reply "wait until tomorrow" was for the sentence "Easily the worst loss of the year".

[JoshuaPotter]

It’s the point guard situation basically. I also don’t blame AB right now for where we are offensively. However, you cannot win games on defensive intensity alone. They need to move Fultz because he isn’t coming back and isn’t reliable. Gary Harris is borderline unplayable. Carter just isn’t the same yet.

Something has to be done about the point guard position specifically. There has to be more offense generated from players other than Paolo/Franz in the starting lineup. In November the bench + Suggs kinda carried us with Franz and Paolo playing exceptionally well. To have a more consistent offense they will need a point guard that can stretch the floor and not compromise the defense.

There are many things we are struggling with right now. AB playing is not one of them. He has been, for what has been asked of him. Stellar. Sure not ROY performance. But he wouldn't have been drafted 6th if he was expected to win ROY the same year as Wemby is a rookie.

I cannot believe I am watching the NBA month where Harris is shooting worse then Black. Where overall Harris as a specialist is shooting just over 1% better then Black overall in the NBA season. I'm feeling very knee jerk when someone plays that far bellow expectations. Because it isn't like Harris can't find a look.

Are backcourt of Black + Suggs is so bright we might need shades. It's just apparent that if we want to sustain our winning percentage we need to make a move or wait to see what Black becomes at the risk of tossing more games then we want.

[eyriq]

It’s the point guard situation basically. I also don’t blame AB right now for where we are offensively. However, you cannot win games on defensive intensity alone. They need to move Fultz because he isn’t coming back and isn’t reliable. Gary Harris is borderline unplayable. Carter just isn’t the same yet.

Something has to be done about the point guard position specifically. There has to be more offense generated from players other than Paolo/Franz in the starting lineup. In November the bench + Suggs kinda carried us with Franz and Paolo playing exceptionally well. To have a more consistent offense they will need a point guard that can stretch the floor and not compromise the defense.

There are many things we are struggling with right now. AB playing is not one of them. He has been, for what has been asked of him. Stellar. Sure not ROY performance. But he wouldn't have been drafted 6th if he was expected to win ROY the same year as Wemby is a rookie.

I cannot believe I am watching the NBA month where Harris is shooting worse then Black. Where overall Harris as a specialist is shooting just over 1% better then Black overall in the NBA season. I'm feeling very knee jerk when someone plays that far bellow expectations. Because it isn't like Harris can't find a look.

Are backcourt of Black + Suggs is so bright we might need shades. It's just apparent that if we want to sustain our winning percentage we need to make a move or wait to see what Black becomes at the risk of tossing more games then we want.

Framing this reply on my wall

[JoshuaPotter]

It’s the point guard situation basically. I also don’t blame AB right now for where we are offensively. However, you cannot win games on defensive intensity alone. They need to move Fultz because he isn’t coming back and isn’t reliable. Gary Harris is borderline unplayable. Carter just isn’t the same yet.

Something has to be done about the point guard position specifically. There has to be more offense generated from players other than Paolo/Franz in the starting lineup. In November the bench + Suggs kinda carried us with Franz and Paolo playing exceptionally well. To have a more consistent offense they will need a point guard that can stretch the floor and not compromise the defense.

There are many things we are struggling with right now. AB playing is not one of them. He has been, for what has been asked of him. Stellar. Sure not ROY performance. But he wouldn't have been drafted 6th if he was expected to win ROY the same year as Wemby is a rookie.

I cannot believe I am watching the NBA month where Harris is shooting worse then Black. Where overall Harris as a specialist is shooting just over 1% better then Black overall in the NBA season. I'm feeling very knee jerk when someone plays that far bellow expectations. Because it isn't like Harris can't find a look.

Are backcourt of Black + Suggs is so bright we might need shades. It's just apparent that if we want to sustain our winning percentage we need to make a move or wait to see what Black becomes at the risk of tossing more games then we want.

Framing this reply on my wall

A personal spot on your wall! Do what do I owe this prestigious honor?

[Optimus_Steel]

It’s the point guard situation basically. I also don’t blame AB right now for where we are offensively. However, you cannot win games on defensive intensity alone. They need to move Fultz because he isn’t coming back and isn’t reliable. Gary Harris is borderline unplayable. Carter just isn’t the same yet.

Something has to be done about the point guard position specifically. There has to be more offense generated from players other than Paolo/Franz in the starting lineup. In November the bench + Suggs kinda carried us with Franz and Paolo playing exceptionally well. To have a more consistent offense they will need a point guard that can stretch the floor and not compromise the defense.

There are many things we are struggling with right now. AB playing is not one of them. He has been, for what has been asked of him. Stellar. Sure not ROY performance. But he wouldn't have been drafted 6th if he was expected to win ROY the same year as Wemby is a rookie.

I cannot believe I am watching the NBA month where Harris is shooting worse then Black. Where overall Harris as a specialist is shooting just over 1% better then Black overall in the NBA season. I'm feeling very knee jerk when someone plays that far bellow expectations. Because it isn't like Harris can't find a look.

Are backcourt of Black + Suggs is so bright we might need shades. It's just apparent that if we want to sustain our winning percentage we need to make a move or wait to see what Black becomes at the risk of tossing more games then we want.

Harris has been absolutely awful shooting the 3. Is he injured or something? He is a great 3p shooter but he is just bricking everything last 4 weeks.

[VFX]

It’s the point guard situation basically. I also don’t blame AB right now for where we are offensively. However, you cannot win games on defensive intensity alone. They need to move Fultz because he isn’t coming back and isn’t reliable. Gary Harris is borderline unplayable. Carter just isn’t the same yet.

Something has to be done about the point guard position specifically. There has to be more offense generated from players other than Paolo/Franz in the starting lineup. In November the bench + Suggs kinda carried us with Franz and Paolo playing exceptionally well. To have a more consistent offense they will need a point guard that can stretch the floor and not compromise the defense.

There are many things we are struggling with right now. AB playing is not one of them. He has been, for what has been asked of him. Stellar. Sure not ROY performance. But he wouldn't have been drafted 6th if he was expected to win ROY the same year as Wemby is a rookie.

I cannot believe I am watching the NBA month where Harris is shooting worse then Black. Where overall Harris as a specialist is shooting just over 1% better then Black overall in the NBA season. I'm feeling very knee jerk when someone plays that far bellow expectations. Because it isn't like Harris can't find a look.

Are backcourt of Black + Suggs is so bright we might need shades. It's just apparent that if we want to sustain our winning percentage we need to make a move or wait to see what Black becomes at the risk of tossing more games then we want.

Harris has been absolutely awful shooting the 3. Is he injured or something? He is a great 3p shooter but he is just bricking everything last 4 weeks.

There is really no point to him being on the floor if he isn’t hitting shots. Both AB and Suggs are better than him currently

[Optimus_Steel]

There are many things we are struggling with right now. AB playing is not one of them. He has been, for what has been asked of him. Stellar. Sure not ROY performance. But he wouldn't have been drafted 6th if he was expected to win ROY the same year as Wemby is a rookie.

I cannot believe I am watching the NBA month where Harris is shooting worse then Black. Where overall Harris as a specialist is shooting just over 1% better then Black overall in the NBA season. I'm feeling very knee jerk when someone plays that far bellow expectations. Because it isn't like Harris can't find a look.

Are backcourt of Black + Suggs is so bright we might need shades. It's just apparent that if we want to sustain our winning percentage we need to make a move or wait to see what Black becomes at the risk of tossing more games then we want.

Harris has been absolutely awful shooting the 3. Is he injured or something? He is a great 3p shooter but he is just bricking everything last 4 weeks.

There is really no point to him being on the floor if he isn’t hitting shots. Both AB and Suggs are better than him currently

The constant misses don't look even close to going in. He is wayyyy off.