2023-2024 Regular Season Game 27: Orlando Magic (16-10) at Milwaukee Bucks (20-7) - 8pm

thelead · Post #521 » by **thelead** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:37 am

Rainwater wrote:
eyriq wrote:Are we going to lose 7 in a row?

Naw, I think the Pacers, Wiz, Warriors, Knicks, maybe even Kings are winnable games.

Gonna need Suggs for sure.

GameOver25 · Post #522 » by **GameOver25** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:38 am

Harris making that 3 at the buzzer.

thelead · Post #523 » by **thelead** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:38 am

OrlandoSaban wrote:
thelead wrote:
OrlandoSaban wrote:
More patience huh? What, another decade of having patience? Maybe 2033 will be our year!!

You really expected to win a championship this year while being led by a 21 and 22 year old? The patience is regarding development, not roster building. We should actively be trying to fix the roster.

No I don’t ever expect to win a championship EVER as a Magic fan but next year we will say we are young and then the next year we will say we are still young and then the next year we will be young again. It’s been a broken record now of being young for over a decade/

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How long did it take Tatum and Brown to get to where they are now? You can’t blame Paolo and Franz for the failures of the past.

Rainwater · Post #524 » by **Rainwater** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:38 am

thelead wrote:
OrlandoSaban wrote:
thelead wrote:Yep. We have enough assets to fix the roster fit issues. That and patience (and health) should get us to where we want to be.

More patience huh? What, another decade of having patience? Maybe 2033 will be our year!!

You really expected to win a championship this year while being led by a 21 and 22 year old? The patience is regarding development, not roster building. We should actively be trying to fix the roster.

Completely agree. It's about putting the right guys around Paolo and Franz now. The magic even have the assets to get a 3rd scorer.

OrlandoSaban · Post #525 » by **OrlandoSaban** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:39 am

meatwad4343 wrote:
thelead wrote:
KillMonger wrote:we really got to get some competent shooters on this team, hopefully that happens at the deadline.....another thing, Dell was NOT ready to be put back in the starting lineup imo....

WCJ is DEFINITELY not ready to play. He can barely hold onto the ball.

He shouldn't have been handed the starting job coming right back, goga has proved that he's a better fit and we win more with him starting. we messed with the chemistry and now we're paying for it.

Messed with Chemistry? Nah.. we are young.

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Post #526 » by **FFBlitzace** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:39 am

basketballRob wrote:It makes you think if Goga played if it would've made a difference?

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Obviously the biggest overall factor was shot making. But WCJ's -27 is pretty damning. Just solid rebounding and finishing (like Goga does) would have helped.

Optimus_Steel · Post #527 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:40 am

Mil did not play a good game and we couldn’t take advantage because we are such an inept shooting team. All the numbers say we should have won this game, perhaps even easily but the shooting is so bad that it doesn’t matter. A complete waste of a game. Type of game you look back and say that cost us a spot in the standings….

BlueBalls · Post #528 » by **BlueBalls** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:40 am

Maddening. Disgusting.

Rainwater · Post #529 » by **Rainwater** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:40 am

thelead wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
eyriq wrote:Are we going to lose 7 in a row?

Naw, I think the Pacers, Wiz, Warriors, Knicks, maybe even Kings are winnable games.

Gonna need Suggs for sure.

Yeah, but I think the Wiz should be winnable without Suggs.

basketballRob · Post #530 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:41 am

We need Ingles back.

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Rainwater · Post #531 » by **Rainwater** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:41 am

FFBlitzace wrote:The only reason we're really mad is because of how we moved the goalposts after our winning streak. But realistically,.500 is a success for this team given how little offensive capability we have. This is the type of game that shows that we're close. We have some good players and we battle, but just not enough shot making.

Completely agree

Optimus_Steel · Post #532 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:43 am

FFBlitzace wrote:Can't even get Giannis to miss now, not that it matters.

Also, we're a defensive team, but horrendous offense makes it harder to defend. It puts you in transition more often, not to mention the morale aspect. Making the opponent take the ball out of the net will help keep you a top ranked defense.

The morale issue is the #1 reason the defense has slipped.

Unfortunately this felt like a last year loss.

RichCollab · Post #533 » by **RichCollab** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:44 am

I know he was way over paid and isn’t as young as we would want but FVV would fit so nicely.

Post #534 » by **eyriq** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:44 am

Dante is obnoxious. he needs to stick to the podcast

basketballRob · Post #535 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:44 am

https://youtube.com/shorts/dbzX93-33K0?feature=shared

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byeganyo · Post #536 » by **byeganyo** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:45 am

thelead wrote:How long did it take Tatum and Brown to get to where they are now? You can’t blame Paolo and Franz for the failures of the past.

2-3 seasons - by the 3rd season of tatum both him and brown were 20ppg players and they made the conference finals. so we should be almost there already:D

Rainwater · Post #537 » by **Rainwater** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:45 am

OrlandoSaban wrote:
thelead wrote:
OrlandoSaban wrote:
More patience huh? What, another decade of having patience? Maybe 2033 will be our year!!

You really expected to win a championship this year while being led by a 21 and 22 year old? The patience is regarding development, not roster building. We should actively be trying to fix the roster.

No I don’t ever expect to win a championship EVER as a Magic fan but next year we will say we are young and then the next year we will say we are still young and then the next year we will be young again. It’s been a broken record now of being young for over a decade/

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You do realize must stars don't win their 1st title until their mid to late 20s. MJ, Curry, Lebron all in their mid lates when they started to compete. The magic aren't with anything with Paolo and Franz at 21 and 22, lol. They are still building.

Optimus_Steel · Post #538 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:46 am

byeganyo wrote:
thelead wrote:How long did it take Tatum and Brown to get to where they are now? You can’t blame Paolo and Franz for the failures of the past.

2-3 seasons - by the 3rd season of tatum both him and brown were 20ppg players and they made the conference finals. so we should be almost there already:D

Bos had a bunch good veterans though we don’t.

BlueBalls · Post #539 » by **BlueBalls** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:46 am

thelead wrote:
OrlandoSaban wrote:
thelead wrote:You really expected to win a championship this year while being led by a 21 and 22 year old? The patience is regarding development, not roster building. We should actively be trying to fix the roster.

No I don’t ever expect to win a championship EVER as a Magic fan but next year we will say we are young and then the next year we will say we are still young and then the next year we will be young again. It’s been a broken record now of being young for over a decade/

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How long did it take Tatum and Brown to get to where they are now? You can’t blame Paolo and Franz for the failures of the past.

No, but we can be angry about the fact they did nothing noteworthy towards putting a good team around them. Made 2 lotto picks that were ill-advised, only FA acquisition was Ingles and thus the roster construction is goofy and redundant.

KillMonger · Post #540 » by **KillMonger** » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:47 am

FFBlitzace wrote:
basketballRob wrote:It makes you think if Goga played if it would've made a difference?

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Obviously the biggest overall factor was shot making. But WCJ's -27 is pretty damning. Just solid rebounding and finishing (like Goga does) would have helped.

Also something i've noticed now that i've seen the difference....Goga is a WAY BETTER screener, it seems like Dell makes no contact at all on the screen....damn man, i don't usually like the question mose but i'm wondering if it was the right decision to just throw dell back into the fire like that instead of just bringing him off the bench then ramping back up to starting?