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Post#201 » by Mavrelous » Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:26 am

tleikheen wrote:Locked on Pistons tonight ,he was pissed off . He said if he wakes up tomorrow and there's not a firing or a trade he was going to lead the media in calling for the firing of Weaver or Monte Williams . He said Cade Cunningham was on the verge of tears after the game and management was breaking the spirit of their young players.
He called out the owner to quit being indecisive and make changes now ,It was pretty fuc*ing dramatic.

That's horrible, Cade is really good player, and competetive, they are really killing his spirit...
The rest of their young guys (and veterans) are a bunch of overrated nobodies, it's all on Weaver (and Gores who let him do stupid things).
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Post#202 » by ejs78 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:35 pm

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You taught us to always look down, did I learn well?
No matter how low. Sky isn't falling. Yet.
The amount of nonsense that comes from you is hilarious.

You just throw teams into a sentence with no connection then toss in Cuban into the equation. Lol

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Man, you were the first to throw in the mix other teams (lottery team of course) when someone try to criticize Cuban... You are tasting your own medicine.

I know it's bad, i'm sorry for you.

:( :( :(
I'm sorry for you. You clearly have a distorted view of what reality is and you have a strange obsession of a player so much so you added them to your profile pic. You also make zero sense in alot of your posts. Not sure what medicine I'm supposed to be taking but ok.



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Post#203 » by ejs78 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:41 pm

tleikheen wrote:Locked on Pistons tonight ,he was pissed off . He said if he wakes up tomorrow and there's not a firing or a trade he was going to lead the media in calling for the firing of Weaver or Monte Williams . He said Cade Cunningham was on the verge of tears after the game and management was breaking the spirit of their young players.
He called out the owner to quit being indecisive and make changes now ,It was pretty fuc*ing dramatic.
Yeah I think the hosts name is Ku and yeah that was something else to listen to with all the anger. The bigger radio show around here has beaten up the team for years and it will interesting to see if Gores even says a word.

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Post#204 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:37 pm

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ejs78 wrote:The amount of nonsense that comes from you is hilarious.

You just throw teams into a sentence with no connection then toss in Cuban into the equation. Lol

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Man, you were the first to throw in the mix other teams (lottery team of course) when someone try to criticize Cuban... You are tasting your own medicine.

I know it's bad, i'm sorry for you.

:( :( :(
I'm sorry for you. You clearly have a distorted view of what reality is and you have a strange obsession of a player so much so you added them to your profile pic. You also make zero sense in alot of your posts. Not sure what medicine I'm supposed to be taking but ok.



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Powell career is the image of the proud stupidity of Mark Cuban.

He is also my idol because he taught everyone that you don't need any basketball skills for earn 80M dollar contract
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Post#205 » by ejs78 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:46 pm

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Man, you were the first to throw in the mix other teams (lottery team of course) when someone try to criticize Cuban... You are tasting your own medicine.

I know it's bad, i'm sorry for you.

:( :( :(
I'm sorry for you. You clearly have a distorted view of what reality is and you have a strange obsession of a player so much so you added them to your profile pic. You also make zero sense in alot of your posts. Not sure what medicine I'm supposed to be taking but ok.



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Powell career is the image of the proud stupidity of Mark Cuban.

He is also my idol because he taught everyone that you don't need any basketball skills for earn 80M dollar contract


Where do you rank Cuban out of the 30 NBA owners?
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Post#206 » by Mavrelous » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:58 pm

ejs78 wrote:Where do you rank Cuban out of the 30 NBA owners?

That's actually very interesting question, where do you rank him?
I have the following clearly better:
Boston
Spurs
OKC
Bucks
Nuggets
Clippers (Ballmer not Sterling)

These clearly worse:
Pistons
Sixers
Blazers
Wolves
Rockets
Bulls
Nets (both Prokhrov and Tsai)
Kings

Similar:
Hawks, Lakers, Pelicans
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Post#207 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:59 pm

ejs78 wrote:
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ejs78 wrote:I'm sorry for you. You clearly have a distorted view of what reality is and you have a strange obsession of a player so much so you added them to your profile pic. You also make zero sense in alot of your posts. Not sure what medicine I'm supposed to be taking but ok.



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Powell career is the image of the proud stupidity of Mark Cuban.

He is also my idol because he taught everyone that you don't need any basketball skills for earn 80M dollar contract


Where do you rank Cuban out of the 30 NBA owners?


It depends on what I have to evaluate him on... it's very difficult to make a ranking because in the last 10 years he has only thought about saving and staying in mediocrity, when the team as became expensive he sold. It's all pretty clear.

I can say that during his ownership he is in the middle of the ranking but after 2011 he is in the worst 5.

Anyway there is Cuban before 2011 and Cuban after 2011 where he didn't even try to win.

The statements "We have Frank" and "Holmes will make a lot of people think again" are the images of his personality... He always think he is the smartest guy in the room instead he's just a rich clown.
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Re: Around the league -- Mavs board edition 

Post#208 » by Dirk » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:13 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
tleikheen wrote:Locked on Pistons tonight ,he was pissed off . He said if he wakes up tomorrow and there's not a firing or a trade he was going to lead the media in calling for the firing of Weaver or Monte Williams . He said Cade Cunningham was on the verge of tears after the game and management was breaking the spirit of their young players.
He called out the owner to quit being indecisive and make changes now ,It was pretty fuc*ing dramatic.

That's horrible, Cade is really good player, and competetive, they are really killing his spirit...
The rest of their young guys (and veterans) are a bunch of overrated nobodies, it's all on Weaver (and Gores who let him do stupid things).


Its o bad in Detroit that they're now paying ejs78 to go watch games.
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Post#209 » by ejs78 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:48 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
ejs78 wrote:Where do you rank Cuban out of the 30 NBA owners?

That's actually very interesting question, where do you rank him?
I have the following clearly better:
Boston
Spurs
OKC
Bucks
Nuggets
Clippers (Ballmer not Sterling)

These clearly worse:
Pistons
Sixers
Blazers
Wolves
Rockets
Bulls
Nets (both Prokhrov and Tsai)
Kings

Similar:
Hawks, Lakers, Pelicans


I agree with your better, but would also add the Heat, Lakers, and Warriors.
I would put the Mavs ahead of the Hawks and Pels
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Post#210 » by ejs78 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:50 pm

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Mavrelous wrote:
tleikheen wrote:Locked on Pistons tonight ,he was pissed off . He said if he wakes up tomorrow and there's not a firing or a trade he was going to lead the media in calling for the firing of Weaver or Monte Williams . He said Cade Cunningham was on the verge of tears after the game and management was breaking the spirit of their young players.
He called out the owner to quit being indecisive and make changes now ,It was pretty fuc*ing dramatic.

That's horrible, Cade is really good player, and competetive, they are really killing his spirit...
The rest of their young guys (and veterans) are a bunch of overrated nobodies, it's all on Weaver (and Gores who let him do stupid things).


Its o bad in Detroit that they're now paying ejs78 to go watch games.


LOL

I've watched 6 games during this streak which is about half the games I normally watch in a year of them. The train wreck is so fascinating.
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Post#211 » by ejs78 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:02 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Powell career is the image of the proud stupidity of Mark Cuban.

He is also my idol because he taught everyone that you don't need any basketball skills for earn 80M dollar contract


Where do you rank Cuban out of the 30 NBA owners?


It depends on what I have to evaluate him on... it's very difficult to make a ranking because in the last 10 years he has only thought about saving and staying in mediocrity, when the team as became expensive he sold. It's all pretty clear.

I can say that during his ownership he is in the middle of the ranking but after 2011 he is in the worst 5.

Anyway there is Cuban before 2011 and Cuban after 2011 where he didn't even try to win.

The statements "We have Frank" and "Holmes will make a lot of people think again" are the images of his personality... He always think he is the smartest guy in the room instead he's just a rich clown.


The middle is a slight stretch, but bottom 5 is completely ridiculous. You do realize all these owners think they are the smartest guys in the room based off of the wealth they have and most are clowns? At one point the Kings owner wanted his team to play 4 on 5 and have a player cherry pick.
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Post#212 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:13 pm

ejs78 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
Where do you rank Cuban out of the 30 NBA owners?


It depends on what I have to evaluate him on... it's very difficult to make a ranking because in the last 10 years he has only thought about saving and staying in mediocrity, when the team as became expensive he sold. It's all pretty clear.

I can say that during his ownership he is in the middle of the ranking but after 2011 he is in the worst 5.

Anyway there is Cuban before 2011 and Cuban after 2011 where he didn't even try to win.

The statements "We have Frank" and "Holmes will make a lot of people think again" are the images of his personality... He always think he is the smartest guy in the room instead he's just a rich clown.


The middle is a slight stretch, but bottom 5 is completely ridiculous. You do realize all these owners think they are the smartest guys in the room based off of the wealth they have and most are clowns? At one point the Kings owner wanted his team to play 4 on 5 and have a player cherry pick.


After 2011? In my opinion yes...

-Let Chandler walk and went cheap, trade a FRP for a Odom with mental issues.
-Ask a discount to Dirk to sign max players like Parsons and Matthews.
-multiple years of wasted cap space waiting for a big fish (he admitted that they didn't draft Giannis for save a couple of dollars) and ending with Montà Ellis or OJ Mayo.
-3years with a top5 of the league in a rookie contract and never built a contender around him.
-resigned Powell everytime just because he doesn't want to admit that Rondo trade was a fiasco.

And probably i don't remember all the things now.

Yes i confirm... Bottom 5 after 2011 for me...
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Post#213 » by ejs78 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:19 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
It depends on what I have to evaluate him on... it's very difficult to make a ranking because in the last 10 years he has only thought about saving and staying in mediocrity, when the team as became expensive he sold. It's all pretty clear.

I can say that during his ownership he is in the middle of the ranking but after 2011 he is in the worst 5.

Anyway there is Cuban before 2011 and Cuban after 2011 where he didn't even try to win.

The statements "We have Frank" and "Holmes will make a lot of people think again" are the images of his personality... He always think he is the smartest guy in the room instead he's just a rich clown.


The middle is a slight stretch, but bottom 5 is completely ridiculous. You do realize all these owners think they are the smartest guys in the room based off of the wealth they have and most are clowns? At one point the Kings owner wanted his team to play 4 on 5 and have a player cherry pick.


After 2011? In my opinion yes...

-Let Chandler walk and went cheap, trade a FRP for a Odom with mental issues.
-Ask a discount to Dirk to sign max players like Parsons and Matthews.
-multiple years of wasted cap space waiting for a big fish (he admitted that they didn't draft Giannis for save a couple of dollars) and ending with Montà Ellis or OJ Mayo.
-3years with a top5 of the league in a rookie contract and never built a contender around him.
-resigned Powell everytime just because he doesn't want to admit that Rondo trade was a fiasco.

And probably i don't remember all the things now.

Yes i confirm... Bottom 5 after 2011 for me...


If you want to believe he's bottom 5 since 2011 that cool, but its not reality. You are basically clumping them in with the Pistons, Hornets, Wolves, Knicks, and Wizards to name a few who have been far worse and for a far longer time. Since 2011 I think like 9 or 10 teams have won more games than the Mavs.

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Post#214 » by 41Dirk41 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:19 pm

ejs78 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
The middle is a slight stretch, but bottom 5 is completely ridiculous. You do realize all these owners think they are the smartest guys in the room based off of the wealth they have and most are clowns? At one point the Kings owner wanted his team to play 4 on 5 and have a player cherry pick.


After 2011? In my opinion yes...

-Let Chandler walk and went cheap, trade a FRP for a Odom with mental issues.
-Ask a discount to Dirk to sign max players like Parsons and Matthews.
-multiple years of wasted cap space waiting for a big fish (he admitted that they didn't draft Giannis for save a couple of dollars) and ending with Montà Ellis or OJ Mayo.
-3years with a top5 of the league in a rookie contract and never built a contender around him.
-resigned Powell everytime just because he doesn't want to admit that Rondo trade was a fiasco.

And probably i don't remember all the things now.

Yes i confirm... Bottom 5 after 2011 for me...


If you want to believe he's bottom 5 since 2011 that cool, but its not reality. You are basically clumping them in with the Pistons, Hornets, Wolves, Knicks, and Wizards to name a few who have been far worse and for a far longer time. Since 2011 I think like 9 or 10 teams have won more games than the Mavs.

https://images.app.goo.gl/h7CB42Ay5ZRGq1Wq5


The starting point is important for me, Mavs had NBA Champion roster in 2011... You can't compare their Ws with lottery team.
And in 2018 we drafted Luka Doncic, no of those team have a player like him.

Doing a recap the wrong moves there are many more than the correct ones... And the ghost of "go cheap" was there.

Cuban made mistakes in 2000s too but his passion was real and he tried everything for win.
I was a big fan of him and I'm not ashamed to write it.

I know that win a ring in Dallas is different than LA, NY or Miami but he gave up after 2011 and this is unforgivable.

Ruining a winning team and not knowing how to build around Doncic are more penalizing than not being able to get out of the lottery for many years in my opinion.
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Post#215 » by ejs78 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:05 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
After 2011? In my opinion yes...

-Let Chandler walk and went cheap, trade a FRP for a Odom with mental issues.
-Ask a discount to Dirk to sign max players like Parsons and Matthews.
-multiple years of wasted cap space waiting for a big fish (he admitted that they didn't draft Giannis for save a couple of dollars) and ending with Montà Ellis or OJ Mayo.
-3years with a top5 of the league in a rookie contract and never built a contender around him.
-resigned Powell everytime just because he doesn't want to admit that Rondo trade was a fiasco.

And probably i don't remember all the things now.

Yes i confirm... Bottom 5 after 2011 for me...


If you want to believe he's bottom 5 since 2011 that cool, but its not reality. You are basically clumping them in with the Pistons, Hornets, Wolves, Knicks, and Wizards to name a few who have been far worse and for a far longer time. Since 2011 I think like 9 or 10 teams have won more games than the Mavs.

https://images.app.goo.gl/h7CB42Ay5ZRGq1Wq5


The starting point is important for me, Mavs had NBA Champion roster in 2011... You can't compare their Ws with lottery team.
And in 2018 we drafted Luka Doncic, no of those team have a player like him.

Doing a recap the wrong moves there are many more than the correct ones... And the ghost of "go cheap" was there.

Cuban made mistakes in 2000s too but his passion was real and he tried everything for win.
I was a big fan of him and I'm not ashamed to write it.

I know that win a ring in Dallas is different than LA, NY or Miami but he gave up after 2011 and this is unforgivable.

Ruining a winning team and not knowing how to build around Doncic are more penalizing than not being able to get out of the lottery for many years in my opinion.
The numbers are the numbers. You can't just discount teams that don't fit the narrative. Yes the Mavs have Luka and I'm sure the proud franchises of the Kings, Suns, and Hawks would have built around him much better.

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Post#216 » by Mavrelous » Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:41 am

For the 1st time this year, Mavs aren't a PO team, dropped to 7th seed.
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Post#217 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:00 am

ejs78 wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
ejs78 wrote:
If you want to believe he's bottom 5 since 2011 that cool, but its not reality. You are basically clumping them in with the Pistons, Hornets, Wolves, Knicks, and Wizards to name a few who have been far worse and for a far longer time. Since 2011 I think like 9 or 10 teams have won more games than the Mavs.

https://images.app.goo.gl/h7CB42Ay5ZRGq1Wq5


The starting point is important for me, Mavs had NBA Champion roster in 2011... You can't compare their Ws with lottery team.
And in 2018 we drafted Luka Doncic, no of those team have a player like him.

Doing a recap the wrong moves there are many more than the correct ones... And the ghost of "go cheap" was there.

Cuban made mistakes in 2000s too but his passion was real and he tried everything for win.
I was a big fan of him and I'm not ashamed to write it.

I know that win a ring in Dallas is different than LA, NY or Miami but he gave up after 2011 and this is unforgivable.

Ruining a winning team and not knowing how to build around Doncic are more penalizing than not being able to get out of the lottery for many years in my opinion.
The numbers are the numbers. You can't just discount teams that don't fit the narrative. Yes the Mavs have Luka and I'm sure the proud franchises of the Kings, Suns, and Hawks would have built around him much better.

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Numbers must always be put into context... otherwise they are just useless and misleading...
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Post#218 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:00 am

Mavrelous wrote:For the 1st time this year, Mavs aren't a PO team, dropped to 7th seed.


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Post#219 » by Apz » Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:05 am

Damn, having an eye on detroits game. Bogdan looks so damn bad. Would not touch that corpse unless they inserts an cade sized incentive. And that is with 23 points and 8min left of game, but god
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Post#220 » by Mavrelous » Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:24 am

Lakers lost yesterday, Pelicans and Rockets today, some breathing room in the standings
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