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[nagawicka]

We needed Bobby when we had Giannis, Midds and Jrue, because you could throw Bobby the ball and he could get a bucket in the post.

We replaced Jrue with Dame. This team doesn't need more ISO scorers. They have five with Bobby, including Brook.

You can get rid of one of them and still be very good offensively in the playoffs.

We'll keep the lightning rod. Every second Bobby distracts opponents from G & D on both ends of the court is a win. Also, rebounds.

[nagawicka]

AJ Green is better than Donte lol.
Don't get why DDV is even mentioned here.

All of you are posting reasonable arguments about Brook's overall impact ... I just don't want to see Boston or the Heat attack Brook and Khris in turns over and over again... it is so painful to watch us collapse for not adjusting roster or lineups.

Brook and Khris should not play together in almost any lineup... Benching Brook and starting Bobby was the solution Bud refused to apply for the last 2 years.

AJ Green would get absolutely torched in the playoffs by Boston.

wym he's our hauser or pritchard

[nagawicka]

Bobby and Pat is enough salary to match Bogdon and finally bring him here to Milwaukee. Bogdon has been really good this year, but the Hawks are a mess.

You don't think our defense is bad enough as is?

I don’t think Bobby or Pat are good defenders either. Bogdon is a guy who can start or come off the bench and run an offense. Our bench offense is laughable.

give it up

[soxperry]

AJ Green is better than Donte lol.
Don't get why DDV is even mentioned here.

All of you are posting reasonable arguments about Brook's overall impact ... I just don't want to see Boston or the Heat attack Brook and Khris in turns over and over again... it is so painful to watch us collapse for not adjusting roster or lineups.

Brook and Khris should not play together in almost any lineup... Benching Brook and starting Bobby was the solution Bud refused to apply for the last 2 years.

AJ Green would get absolutely torched in the playoffs by Boston.

wym he's our hauser or pritchard

lol.. no... no he's not. these are all just white guys, that's all they have in common. Hauser is 6'8", he's like their Duncan Robinson. Green is 6'4" and isn't as good of an athlete as Hauser. Pritchard is a well rounded ball player, he's just short. AJ Green has one nba skill and that's shooting. The rest is bottom of the barrel.

I think the reason these takes shock me is that this isn't Facebook or some random conversation at a bar. It's a very dedicated collection of bucks fans that somehow dont understand the game they are watching.

[Baddy Chuck]

AJ Green would get absolutely torched in the playoffs by Boston.

wym he's our hauser or pritchard

Payton Pritchard playoff minutes last season: 57 (10 games, 10 CD-DNP), 3 ppg
Sam Hauser playoff minutes last season: 104 (15 games, 5 CD-DNP), 60 minutes in 1st series, 2 ppg

Yeah, I could see it.

[paulpressey25]

Keep reading this thread looking for answers from you guys on a trade.

Bobby: sucks on defense, but is a minute eater, spreads the floor and we’re short on legit bigs.Also our enforcer and a spiritual team leader. Can’t really deal him unless some lopsided opportunity appears.

Pat: hustles, made man from the playoffs, Giannis friend, owners friend. Knack for making plays. Can’t deal him unless lopsided deal either.

That leaves us with guys who only have small matching salaries. Think I’d call the Knicks and see if they’d take a flyer on MarJon and the Portland 2nd for Grimes. He’s the same age and salary as MarJon but seems on the outs in NYK, and could be a point of attack defender. Seems to play under more control than MarJon.

Thus endeth my Ted Talk.

[nagawicka]

what if pats compensation was cicrumventative of the cap?

so we have to keep him to keep him quiet as a clam in a rug

[nagawicka]

Is the idea that there are real estate reasons that Milwaukee is invested in Pat?

If a subscriber cares to summarize this March 2023 interview I’d be curious:

Milwaukee Bucks star Connaughton's growing real estate firm doubles down on Milwaukee

https://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2023/03/15/pat-connaughton-three-leaf-partners-milwaukee.html

There are real estate reasons Pat's invested in Milwaukee, not the other way around. Milwaukee will make a basketball decision sooner or later unrelated to that end of things. Pat will still have those real estate relationships long after he's retired or playing somewhere else, there's no MKE or business-side keeping the Bucks from standard moves on the basketball side.

[nagawicka]

what if pats compensation was cicrumventative of the cap?

Even if that were true, how does that make him immovable?

It makes it uncomfortable, for sure. But it's a business at the end of the day.

I do agree, though, he is less likely to get moved than Bobby.

weren't the real estate opportunities said to possibly be a reason Pat signed with US aka at what we could offer? In other words, he's still got those and those business relationships aren't any sort of obstacle to moving Connaughton. If the Bucks are moving Patty, they no longer need those business relationships. If he's staying, it's for glue guy stability--and Patty'll be moved before Bobby Portis, b/c where ya'll gonna get another lighting rod? Rebounds don't grow on undersized guards.

[RiotPunch]

what if pats compensation was cicrumventative of the cap?

Even if that were true, how does that make him immovable?

It makes it uncomfortable, for sure. But it's a business at the end of the day.

I do agree, though, he is less likely to get moved than Bobby.

weren't the real estate opportunities said to possibly be a reason Pat signed with US aka at what we could offer? In other words, he's still got those and those business relationships aren't any sort of obstacle to moving Connaughton. If the Bucks are moving Patty, they no longer need those business relationships. If he's staying, it's for glue guy stability--and Patty'll be moved before Bobby Portis, b/c where ya'll gonna get another lighting rod? Rebounds don't grow on undersized guards.

Lightning rod, yes. Rebounding, yes. Scoring, yes. The main reason Bobby gets moved before Pat is because he holds actual trade value. He is a luxury asset for us. Turning him into a closing perimeter defender should be the focus. And believe you me, I have grown to love him.

Also, on the lightning rod front, Bobby has been flying a little too close to the sun recently. Hasn't bitten us in the ass too hard yet, but he has been especially unhinged these last few games. Just an observation.

[RiotPunch]

Keep reading this thread looking for answers from you guys on a trade.

Bobby: sucks on defense, but is a minute eater, spreads the floor and we’re short on legit bigs.Also our enforcer and a spiritual team leader. Can’t really deal him unless some lopsided opportunity appears.

Pat: hustles, made man from the playoffs, Giannis friend, owners friend. Knack for making plays. Can’t deal him unless lopsided deal either.

That leaves us with guys who only have small matching salaries. Think I’d call the Knicks and see if they’d take a flyer on MarJon and the Portland 2nd for Grimes. He’s the same age and salary as MarJon but seems on the outs in NYK, and could be a point of attack defender. Seems to play under more control than MarJon.

Thus endeth my Ted Talk.

I'm trying, man. But it is a tough spot. *IF* you can squeeze a mediocre 1st out of a team for Bobby, you might be able to put something together, but I'm not sure he's worth that. He's certainly worth more than that to us. Pat is basically just filler for other teams unless we take a bad contract back.

Like the Grimes play, but don't think MJB+2nd gets that done. Worth a call, though. I am still a Grimes believer.

[Jez2983]

I'd back us to get the best out of any under performing 3&D perimeter player when put alongside Giannis/Dame/Mids/Brook. We need a buy-low candidate.

[ShootingtheJ]

Seriously, Kris Dunn is the guy. He's getting starts right now because of Utahs injuries and performing well just like he did last year. He both replaces Beasley as the starter and eliminates the need for Payne as the backup PG. Dunn really defends. He's tollerable everywhere else. Only has a $2.5 million salary, so we don't have to have these "can we trade Pat or Bobby?" conversations.

[German Athens]

What’s our version of the de’anthony Melton trade at this coming draft?

[Mtsportsfan]

Bobby and Pat is enough salary to match Bogdon and finally bring him here to Milwaukee. Bogdon has been really good this year, but the Hawks are a mess.

I see that you really want to trade Bobby , in your scenario, who the is back up center or pf ? don't care about Pat , he's just a guy . Portis isn't un tradable , I just want a big back!

I don’t think it’s that hard to find another stretch big who isn’t a good defender. There’s buyout level guys and free agents in general who could fill that slot.

Who do you think will be out there ? Not that Bobby is the greatest , but he does bring energy to our team. This reminds me in away when we traded Scott Williams . wasn't a great player but he did alot of the little things that gave us energy for Anthony Mason (don't know the details) it didn't work out ! I'm really curious who you think will be available.

[crowhead76]

what if pats compensation was cicrumventative of the cap?

Even if that were true, how does that make him immovable?

It makes it uncomfortable, for sure. But it's a business at the end of the day.

I do agree, though, he is less likely to get moved than Bobby.

I agree whole heartedly that does not make him immovable, just ask the Nets.

[theFireBlanket]

Our starters are better than the bench. More breaking news at 10.

Right; compare AJJ as starter in 2 games vs. Beasley in 2 games starting. You'd gain more relevant #s for gauging players & lineups.

Beasley's numbers aren't going away just because you don't like them.

I actually like Beasley. Nothing to do with not liking his numbers.

Andre has a better fit next to Dame in the backcourt, unless those two step up more on defense. Its that simple.

Brook & Giannis should only have to do so much.

[crowhead76]

I see that you really want to trade Bobby , in your scenario, who the is back up center or pf ? don't care about Pat , he's just a guy . Portis isn't un tradable , I just want a big back!

I don’t think it’s that hard to find another stretch big who isn’t a good defender. There’s buyout level guys and free agents in general who could fill that slot.

Who do you think will be out there ? Not that Bobby is the greatest , but he does bring energy to our team. This reminds me in away when we traded Scott Williams . wasn't a great player but he did alot of the little things that gave us energy for Anthony Mason (don't know the details) it didn't work out ! I'm really curious who you think will be available.

Bucks have a guy in Bolden on a 2 way that is quietly having a nice season playing for the Herd. Would not be opposed to giving him some run for the Bucks to see how he fits.

[Shaffty]

what if pats compensation was cicrumventative of the cap?

Even if that were true, how does that make him immovable?

It makes it uncomfortable, for sure. But it's a business at the end of the day.

I do agree, though, he is less likely to get moved than Bobby.

in theory having the information that it happened could be used as essentially a No trade clause

i have no info on if that would happen, just something to consider. And why I dont bother putting pat in trades because of how many factors he has in his favor between Dame/Giannis/Ownership/Playoff performance/ and perhaps this

[Mtsportsfan]

I don’t think it’s that hard to find another stretch big who isn’t a good defender. There’s buyout level guys and free agents in general who could fill that slot.

Who do you think will be out there ? Not that Bobby is the greatest , but he does bring energy to our team. This reminds me in away when we traded Scott Williams . wasn't a great player but he did alot of the little things that gave us energy for Anthony Mason (don't know the details) it didn't work out ! I'm really curious who you think will be available.

Bucks have a guy in Bolden on a 2 way that is quietly having a nice season playing for the Herd. Would not be opposed to giving him some run for the Bucks to see how he fits.

Maybe Robin can come up with a mysterious injury and bring him up to what see we have! Not banking on D leaguer to fill Bobby's shoes!