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Teffer10 wrote:Wonder if Jazz would consider this deal?
Green/Hardy/Maxi/Holmes/Some combination of picks
for
Collins/Yurtseven
Remember how Green/Hardy torched them with 29 points each last year in the same game.
Deuteronomy 30:19 wrote:I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live
daoneandonly wrote:I wouldn't give up any picks for Collins. He's overpaid and rumblings out of Utah they're frustrated he can't pick up the system, which means he has a low ball iq
daoneandonly wrote:I wouldn't give up any picks for Collins. He's overpaid and rumblings out of Utah they're frustrated he can't pick up the system, which means he has a low ball iq
41Dirk41 wrote:daoneandonly wrote:I wouldn't give up any picks for Collins. He's overpaid and rumblings out of Utah they're frustrated he can't pick up the system, which means he has a low ball iq
Agree... For cheap sure but no picks please
BliscoSantos wrote:41Dirk41 wrote:daoneandonly wrote:I wouldn't give up any picks for Collins. He's overpaid and rumblings out of Utah they're frustrated he can't pick up the system, which means he has a low ball iq
Agree... For cheap sure but no picks please
Holmes,Kleber and two seconds
Maybe a package for Collins and Yurtseven could be even better for us.
Luka
Kyrie
Williams or DJJ
Collins
Lively
Exum
Curry
Lawson
Omax
Kleber
Yurtseven
Powell (DNP Forever)
tleikheen wrote:Maybe a package for Collins and Yurtseven could be even better for us.
Luka
Kyrie
Williams or DJJ
Collins
Lively
Exum
Curry
Lawson
Omax
Kleber
Yurtseven
Powell (DNP Forever)
Your one of those guys that likes to tank for the draft or why else do you want loser lineups ....... do you understand that Utah wants to get rid of Collins AFTER 25 games and your hot for him ,SMH and the reason they want Exum playing is because the Mavs think playing at a faster pace which stats shows happens when Exum plays gives them a far better chance at winning. Plus as a starter Exum FAR OUTSHINES both DJJ and GWilliams in scoring ,shooting ,in rebounds and assists and of the 3 only Exum can get his own shot.
joesha1698 wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:41Dirk41 wrote:Luka asked for a vet big this summer and they resigned Powell. It's just over the stupidity
haha acting fool as always.
wow Luka asked for a vet big and Mavs did not get him a great one!
hOW CAn MAvs not sIGN Bam-A.Davis-Myles Turner for vet min?
Everyone act surprised like 41Dirk41 !!!
Wow Mavs team with $65m/year contracts of THJ+Luka signing Kyrie for $40m/year this off-season and then not having any trade assets or cap space to sign a proper big man!
Who would've thought that paying $105m for Luka+THJ+Kyrie was not a wise choice??!
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For any other sane person: Mavs team must trade Kyrie!
Mavs need another fool GM, or a new owner acting fool. I dont know maybe someone desperate.
Talking to the existence, I wish Masai would make another wrong move and go for Kyrie.
Raptors really **** up with their Poetl trade. Spent draft picks for not even making playoffs. Team still sucks. They also lost FVV and their PG need is so obvious. They are not getting king's ransom for their Siakam, OG etc to rebuild.
Maybe Masai would do another wrong move and go for Kyrie??
Kyrie being lunatic, antisemitist, antivax, flat-earth, injury-prone, playoff loser for last 6-7 years are enough reason to not even think about Kyrie. But then again, some GMs act desperate. Poetl was never the guy to fix Raptors problems but they went for it. Who knows maybe they'll bite for Kyrie??
Kyrie is not a lunatic. He just posted a link to a documentary that was disputing religion. I see nothing wrong with that. I personally believe these religions were wrote by men, so why shouldn't other people have a right to challenge religion beliefs and historical events? The lunatics are the people who claim to be "Semitic" but any dna test will show European ancestry. They just weaponized something they pretend to be. Its obviously being used a weapon to attack free speech and punish people who they do not like. Kyrie Irving was being punished for his VAX stand and for speaking his mind. He became unruly and they were trying to punish him. The same way they did Dave Chapelle and now Elon Musk.
As for your other comments, a lot of great players have been injury prone. I could easily make a list of all the games they missed and i'm pretty sure they havent won a ring or hit a big shot. Additionally, teams win together not one player. How many of those teams have won since Kyrie left? I'll wait.
ozwizard8 wrote:joesha1698 wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:haha acting fool as always.
wow Luka asked for a vet big and Mavs did not get him a great one!
hOW CAn MAvs not sIGN Bam-A.Davis-Myles Turner for vet min?
Everyone act surprised like 41Dirk41 !!!
Wow Mavs team with $65m/year contracts of THJ+Luka signing Kyrie for $40m/year this off-season and then not having any trade assets or cap space to sign a proper big man!
Who would've thought that paying $105m for Luka+THJ+Kyrie was not a wise choice??!
***
For any other sane person: Mavs team must trade Kyrie!
Mavs need another fool GM, or a new owner acting fool. I dont know maybe someone desperate.
Talking to the existence, I wish Masai would make another wrong move and go for Kyrie.
Raptors really **** up with their Poetl trade. Spent draft picks for not even making playoffs. Team still sucks. They also lost FVV and their PG need is so obvious. They are not getting king's ransom for their Siakam, OG etc to rebuild.
Maybe Masai would do another wrong move and go for Kyrie??
Kyrie being lunatic, antisemitist, antivax, flat-earth, injury-prone, playoff loser for last 6-7 years are enough reason to not even think about Kyrie. But then again, some GMs act desperate. Poetl was never the guy to fix Raptors problems but they went for it. Who knows maybe they'll bite for Kyrie??
Kyrie is not a lunatic. He just posted a link to a documentary that was disputing religion. I see nothing wrong with that. I personally believe these religions were wrote by men, so why shouldn't other people have a right to challenge religion beliefs and historical events? The lunatics are the people who claim to be "Semitic" but any dna test will show European ancestry. They just weaponized something they pretend to be. Its obviously being used a weapon to attack free speech and punish people who they do not like. Kyrie Irving was being punished for his VAX stand and for speaking his mind. He became unruly and they were trying to punish him. The same way they did Dave Chapelle and now Elon Musk.
As for your other comments, a lot of great players have been injury prone. I could easily make a list of all the games they missed and i'm pretty sure they havent won a ring or hit a big shot. Additionally, teams win together not one player. How many of those teams have won since Kyrie left? I'll wait.
Seriously **** off with all your anti-semitism and other hateful beliefs. This is how Kyrie infect many uneducated people or whomever is likely to prejudiced due their race or political leanings. Your racism going as far as ancestry dna's of people is disgusting. jews were black BS is worse than nazi stuff. I am glad you are not at power to ethnically cleanse people.
stop with revisionist history BS. shame on Kyrie to promote those ****.
being a kyrie fan you may not think he is a lunatic, and you may want to think he is a great NBA player that helps his teams. This is not true.
* Kyrie being injury prone is a player-specific thing. Kemba Walker was also like this and he got worse with injuries and get out of NBA. Lillard and Kyrie may be the next ones to quickly disappear. When you invest in any NBA player, you need to consider the injury concerns. I dont care if some other stars have injury history, this does not make Kyrie being injury-prone is okay. It is not fine.
* Kyrie only brought misery wherever he goes in last 7 years. Epic fails on each and every solid teams. These teams had Tatum-Brown, Durant-Harden, and Luka. Boston doing better without Kyrie. They lost on their Kyrie investment but they have solid chance to win.
* Kyrie's playoff performances without Lebron is abysmal. Even if he had one or two games good, him being injury prone showed up. What is the point of having Kyrie if he cannot advance to 2nd round of playoffs?
ozwizard8 wrote:joesha1698 wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:haha acting fool as always.
wow Luka asked for a vet big and Mavs did not get him a great one!
hOW CAn MAvs not sIGN Bam-A.Davis-Myles Turner for vet min?
Everyone act surprised like 41Dirk41 !!!
Wow Mavs team with $65m/year contracts of THJ+Luka signing Kyrie for $40m/year this off-season and then not having any trade assets or cap space to sign a proper big man!
Who would've thought that paying $105m for Luka+THJ+Kyrie was not a wise choice??!
***
For any other sane person: Mavs team must trade Kyrie!
Mavs need another fool GM, or a new owner acting fool. I dont know maybe someone desperate.
Talking to the existence, I wish Masai would make another wrong move and go for Kyrie.
Raptors really **** up with their Poetl trade. Spent draft picks for not even making playoffs. Team still sucks. They also lost FVV and their PG need is so obvious. They are not getting king's ransom for their Siakam, OG etc to rebuild.
Maybe Masai would do another wrong move and go for Kyrie??
Kyrie being lunatic, antisemitist, antivax, flat-earth, injury-prone, playoff loser for last 6-7 years are enough reason to not even think about Kyrie. But then again, some GMs act desperate. Poetl was never the guy to fix Raptors problems but they went for it. Who knows maybe they'll bite for Kyrie??
Kyrie is not a lunatic. He just posted a link to a documentary that was disputing religion. I see nothing wrong with that. I personally believe these religions were wrote by men, so why shouldn't other people have a right to challenge religion beliefs and historical events? The lunatics are the people who claim to be "Semitic" but any dna test will show European ancestry. They just weaponized something they pretend to be. Its obviously being used a weapon to attack free speech and punish people who they do not like. Kyrie Irving was being punished for his VAX stand and for speaking his mind. He became unruly and they were trying to punish him. The same way they did Dave Chapelle and now Elon Musk.
As for your other comments, a lot of great players have been injury prone. I could easily make a list of all the games they missed and i'm pretty sure they havent won a ring or hit a big shot. Additionally, teams win together not one player. How many of those teams have won since Kyrie left? I'll wait.
Seriously **** off with all your anti-semitism and other hateful beliefs. This is how Kyrie infect many uneducated people or whomever is likely to prejudiced due their race or political leanings. Your racism going as far as ancestry dna's of people is disgusting. jews were black BS is worse than nazi stuff. I am glad you are not at power to ethnically cleanse people.
stop with revisionist history BS. shame on Kyrie to promote those ****.
being a kyrie fan you may not think he is a lunatic, and you may want to think he is a great NBA player that helps his teams. This is not true.
* Kyrie being injury prone is a player-specific thing. Kemba Walker was also like this and he got worse with injuries and get out of NBA. Lillard and Kyrie may be the next ones to quickly disappear. When you invest in any NBA player, you need to consider the injury concerns. I dont care if some other stars have injury history, this does not make Kyrie being injury-prone is okay. It is not fine.
* Kyrie only brought misery wherever he goes in last 7 years. Epic fails on each and every solid teams. These teams had Tatum-Brown, Durant-Harden, and Luka. Boston doing better without Kyrie. They lost on their Kyrie investment but they have solid chance to win.
* Kyrie's playoff performances without Lebron is abysmal. Even if he had one or two games good, him being injury prone showed up. What is the point of having Kyrie if he cannot advance to 2nd round of playoffs?
Archx wrote:You're constantly insulting other posters, you can't even comprehend what they are telling you, then you go on long rampages how Kyrie is the biggest issue on this team and act like you're the smartest person on the planet.
I guess you missed the free agency because there is no way someone would write so many dissinformation posts like you do.
Ayton and Capela were up for grabs, PHX and ATL were willing to trade them even to Mavs, but Mavs FO cheaped out and made Green+Hardy combo untouchable. All ATL wanted was one of them and Mavs could have had Capela or even Ayton. Things would have been much different now if that happened.
I suggest you get off your high horse or take a week to cool off because you're bringing nothing to discussion other than piss off people.
Dirk wrote:Consider this...
Most people have far too much going on with their life to get enraged and upset over whatever Kyrie shares or shared on social media.
Kyrie is a Dallas player under contract.
With the Mavs... he has pretty much been very mellow. A good citizen.
So maybe we can compartmentalize things... and judge the basketball player for the Mavs, with the focus on the present and short/mid-term future.
mademan wrote:jesus man. Did Kyrie date your girl or something? This is not a healthy amount of hate
mxr2000 wrote:Beside trades option we should also look what is available outside the NBA remember we found that way Salah Mejri in Europe what's is available out there that we might sign for the minimun
ozwizard8 wrote:Archx wrote:You're constantly insulting other posters, you can't even comprehend what they are telling you, then you go on long rampages how Kyrie is the biggest issue on this team and act like you're the smartest person on the planet.
I guess you missed the free agency because there is no way someone would write so many dissinformation posts like you do.
Ayton and Capela were up for grabs, PHX and ATL were willing to trade them even to Mavs, but Mavs FO cheaped out and made Green+Hardy combo untouchable. All ATL wanted was one of them and Mavs could have had Capela or even Ayton. Things would have been much different now if that happened.
I suggest you get off your high horse or take a week to cool off because you're bringing nothing to discussion other than piss off people.
If you have an argument to make go with that. Stop with personal attacks. It shows that you do not have solid arguments to answer my points.
I appreciated you replied to one argument out of many.
My argument is if you have $105 for Kyrie-THJ-Luka then you dont have much room for FA and not have flexibility for trades.
1. Mcgee, WCS are what Mavs front office found with MLE, vet min type of contracts. Holmes came here like a salary dump.
2. For Suns, we may not have had the right contracts/players to trade for.
3. I am not sold on ATL wanting two guards from Mavs to trade their 25mpg veteran center.
Trade rumors does not mean they are true. ATL has many scorer guards. Its hard to think they insisted on Hardy who was not even a valuable pick or sth. Then again Green did not get such a big contract to warrant thinking that Mavs value him so highly.
I am not watching too much of ATL basketball but early on the season Capela seemed washed as well. So I am not sure if I would trade Capela if I am sending young assets + draft picks.
Unfortunately, I bashed all moves of FO last year because they made tons of mistakes, all starting from Brunson **** up. They tried to find scoring via C. Wood, many posters here defended him and FO against me with laughable stuff. I can bring up those comments from last year, but I am not doing that because I don't care about you or any others personally. I debate on the subject, not the people. Letting Brunson go was as bad as Nash mistake. And C. Wood was a bad team player. He never helped winning. Scorer players make some kids here so excited. In reality, some players scoring does not help the team.
After failed Wood experiment, they tried to find another second scorer instead of Brunson and go for Kyrie. Huge investment with the consideration of the need for max extension. Kyrie move was made for short-term gains. And it failed miserably. That Kyrie experiment failed so badly, that it made us a lottery team!
Now Props to FO! Lively is an amazing pick! Cuban **** up with trades and the way he resigns players. But I must admit he hired right people to scout/draft.
I personally wanted Ayton as he traded for so cheap. But then again, I am not sure how much Suns valued Nurkic. For me he did not have a positive value with injuries and lack of defensive mobility. Maybe Suns thought differently. Mavs may not have right combination to match Ayton salary too. Having Kyrie-THJ-Luka at $105m does not help the trades. Seeing how Lively performs showing me that we do not need Ayton with huge contract while having Kyrie.
Still, we need to have a solid frontcourt. Right now, we are paying $20m for our 3 frontcourt starters while paying $105m for the backcourt rotation of Kyrie-Luka-THJ.
Option A: If Prosper suddenly becomes the new Shawn Marion, Maxi comes back like two seasons ago, Holmes get back to Kings-form to be a good backup, then Mavs problems may mostly solved without trading Kyrie. However, this is a wishful thinking.
Option B: Trading Kyrie, and paying that $40m to a solid frontcourt player would likely improve our rebounding/defense.
ozwizard8 wrote:joesha1698 wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:haha acting fool as always.
wow Luka asked for a vet big and Mavs did not get him a great one!
hOW CAn MAvs not sIGN Bam-A.Davis-Myles Turner for vet min?
Everyone act surprised like 41Dirk41 !!!
Wow Mavs team with $65m/year contracts of THJ+Luka signing Kyrie for $40m/year this off-season and then not having any trade assets or cap space to sign a proper big man!
Who would've thought that paying $105m for Luka+THJ+Kyrie was not a wise choice??!
***
For any other sane person: Mavs team must trade Kyrie!
Mavs need another fool GM, or a new owner acting fool. I dont know maybe someone desperate.
Talking to the existence, I wish Masai would make another wrong move and go for Kyrie.
Raptors really **** up with their Poetl trade. Spent draft picks for not even making playoffs. Team still sucks. They also lost FVV and their PG need is so obvious. They are not getting king's ransom for their Siakam, OG etc to rebuild.
Maybe Masai would do another wrong move and go for Kyrie??
Kyrie being lunatic, antisemitist, antivax, flat-earth, injury-prone, playoff loser for last 6-7 years are enough reason to not even think about Kyrie. But then again, some GMs act desperate. Poetl was never the guy to fix Raptors problems but they went for it. Who knows maybe they'll bite for Kyrie??
Kyrie is not a lunatic. He just posted a link to a documentary that was disputing religion. I see nothing wrong with that. I personally believe these religions were wrote by men, so why shouldn't other people have a right to challenge religion beliefs and historical events? The lunatics are the people who claim to be "Semitic" but any dna test will show European ancestry. They just weaponized something they pretend to be. Its obviously being used a weapon to attack free speech and punish people who they do not like. Kyrie Irving was being punished for his VAX stand and for speaking his mind. He became unruly and they were trying to punish him. The same way they did Dave Chapelle and now Elon Musk.
As for your other comments, a lot of great players have been injury prone. I could easily make a list of all the games they missed and i'm pretty sure they havent won a ring or hit a big shot. Additionally, teams win together not one player. How many of those teams have won since Kyrie left? I'll wait.
Seriously **** off with all your anti-semitism and other hateful beliefs. This is how Kyrie infect many uneducated people or whomever is likely to prejudiced due their race or political leanings. Your racism going as far as ancestry dna's of people is disgusting. jews were black BS is worse than nazi stuff. I am glad you are not at power to ethnically cleanse people.
stop with revisionist history BS. shame on Kyrie to promote those ****.
being a kyrie fan you may not think he is a lunatic, and you may want to think he is a great NBA player that helps his teams. This is not true.
* Kyrie being injury prone is a player-specific thing. Kemba Walker was also like this and he got worse with injuries and get out of NBA. Lillard and Kyrie may be the next ones to quickly disappear. When you invest in any NBA player, you need to consider the injury concerns. I dont care if some other stars have injury history, this does not make Kyrie being injury-prone is okay. It is not fine.
* Kyrie only brought misery wherever he goes in last 7 years. Epic fails on each and every solid teams. These teams had Tatum-Brown, Durant-Harden, and Luka. Boston doing better without Kyrie. They lost on their Kyrie investment but they have solid chance to win.
* Kyrie's playoff performances without Lebron is abysmal. Even if he had one or two games good, him being injury prone showed up. What is the point of having Kyrie if he cannot advance to 2nd round of playoffs?