lobosloboslobos wrote:PhilBlackson wrote:lobosloboslobos wrote:
lol you'd make a great coach. how old are you i wonder. either not old enough to know how simplistic this take is or old enough to know better but for some reason don't. The first year Pascal played in the G League he was 23 years old. So was Norm. Fred was 22 and did 4 years in college. Gradey is 19. If you think that you develop one of the youngest rookies in the league by throwing him to the wolves and telling him (as you like to do) that he sucks and is on his own to figure stuff out then thank god you don't actually work with any young people. which i hope for their sakes' you don't.
Hey, I didn't ask for this beef, but to be clear, you started this. You say I can't make a logical argument but all I did was walk through every game Gradey has played and pointed out how there is a noticeable downward trend from where he started, and that that ties in to confidence, and also that Darko has not expressed a lot of confidence in him. You may disagree but I didn't post this to you in any way. I just put some facts out there and drew a reasonable conclusion.
Meanwhile your very first line of your response to my post is "What a lame excuse." And you say that I'm talking sh*t? lol Then you make a point about Pascal and other guys having succeeded in the G League, which I directly responded to with some relevant facts that you conveniently ignored. And you say I'm incapable of a logical argument? lol. Then you repeatedly say it's not the coach's responsibility to help Gradey succeed ("He can't hit his jumpers for him", "That's not the coach's fault, it's his own.", "It's on himself to step up", etc.) but follow up with a post saying "I made no mention of a coach belittling the player or telling him to figure it out on his own". lol as if. you can't even remember what you posted. And sure there are some other guys doing well as rookies, and plenty of other guys who have taken more time to figure stuff out and still become terrific players. But for whatever reason you can't stop trashing a 19 year who hasn't even taken 100 shots in the NBA but also can't stop to ask yourself why he is having a hard time. it's the typical knee-jerk negativity i've come to expect from your posts.
as for you being older me than me, i seriously doubt it, but if you are, well, that sucks for you. i've spent a lot of years helping young people figure out how to tap into their potential. if it was as simple as you seem to think it is (just do it!) then a lot of people in every walk of life would be a lot more successful than they are. and a lot less angry.
Lol save me this "I didn't ask for this beef" nonsense...you IMMEDIATELY start your entire post
condescendingly saying "you'd make a great coach lol" and any mildly intelligent poster knows what you're implying when you "question" a poster's age especially when you say "not old enough to know how simplistic this take is". That you're saying "without saying" that they don't know what they're talking about due to them not developing enough cognitively and hence why you also said at the end "old enough to know better" to again imply that your intelligence is supposedly "superior" so please cut out the sh*t/"victim" role, you quite clearly started the insulting behaviour. Own it and stop trying to exalt yourself as being on some higher ground when you only are in your own head, not reality.
Now as to "just laying out the facts", you didn't do that either - you cherrypicked only what you wanted to include. Again you completely skimmed over that there were other rookies his age with the same experiences that still managed to flourish in the G-League and more importantly that Gradey at this point is being coached by Eric Khoury right now (and has been for weeks now) NOT Darko but yet you want to pin all of Dick's struggles on Darko's coaching of him which is illogical considering Khoury is the one doing so now but how about you finally address that point?! Oh I know why, it doesn't fit your argument.
Also I'll do best to not insult but you are either some THE worst comprehension of the English language (which I'm not saying is the case) OR what's more likely TRYING (and failing) to manipulate or blur lines by implications YOU are making, not that I am saying. What's hilarious is even what you quoted of me, there isn't a single example that fits the criteria of a coach belittling the player...
"He can't hit jumpers for him" - that's just a fact, that's not what I'm saying the coach should say to him
"That's not the coach's fault, that's his own" - again that's not the coach belittling, that's asking him to take on personal responsibility
"It's on himself to step up" - again personal responsibility, none of that was insulting or belittling
Nowhere in all those quotes is there ANYWHERE where the coach is being insulting or belittling, it is however again as I stated before asking Gradey to take on personal responsibility to step up as a player which is why cited multiple players who have (and whom you conveniently continue to skim over because you can't address the clear flaw in your "logic"). Also I'm not "trashing" Gradey at all lol you're just as usual overly sensitive to any criticism of our players but what else is new?! lol You can look through this thread where I've said on multiple occasions that I'm really hoping that he can turn it around and have compared him to clearly a solid NBA player in Kevin Huerter. But just because again I don't share your opinion/excuse for Gradey underwhelming that it's "hating" or "trashing" him. Trashing would be if I said he sucks, he's garbage, he's a bust etc which I have not said but again you handle him being critiqued because you're overly sensitive and want to point the finger and make weak excuses for his poor play.
You can doubt us being close in age all you want I really could care less. But apparently you feel the need to make this a pissing contest for age because again you seem to think it implies that you somehow have greater wisdom when it's just flat out foolish for you to make any assumptions. But given that you want to again boast of how wise you are with age and your "guidance" has helped people that you'd also understand that a ton of success has to do with PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY (along with self discipline). Go watch nearly any serious entrepreneurial material and those are paramount to people's success as they are arguably some of THE biggest factors/key indicators of it. But here you want Gradey to place the blame on a single person to excuse his poor performance despite the fact he's around a plethora of different people within the organization
AND being coached by an entirely different person and STILL struggling but hey you can continue skip over that part and try to validate your stance based on self perceived superiority based on seniority lol but please save it & stick to what is ACTUALLY being said and not what you try (and fail) to twist it into.
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