NFC East

[El Turco]

Unless it is from my hometown, there is no way I can support a franchise that's badly run year in and year out, no matter if they fall ass backwards on to a title or two. Imagine being a Marlins fan, it is just ownership taking advantage of the fact that they will earn money no matter they try to build a good team or not, just disrespectful to whole idea of fandom.

It is also particularly dumb to have the "title or i hate my life mentality" in sports that have single elimination, you can have the best team in the world and still fall short if things dont line up for you for one game. People dont understand how much luck is involved in getting 3-4 wins in a row without tripping, you just gotta hope your team puts itself in a position to get there.

So I’m assuming by your post that when the cowboys lose in the playoffs this year that i should still be proud of my team? Three double digit win seasons and the playoffs in a row? For me absolutely not.
In the present, a team like the Texans can be happy. It was a good season with progress made towards the ultimate goal. But if in 10 years from now we look back and see that they never won a SB then it was all for nothing and must be considered a failure.

You just answered yourself, you should be happy with your team if you see progress. Getting to NFC title game would be a progress for Cowboys, if you lose in divisional year after year yeah you are a failure.

and being proud is not a binary, yes/no preposition. when I hit my PR while squatting I am proud of myself. I would be more proud of myself if I broke the world record but I am not going to hang my head in shame if I cant break the world record.

[El Turco]

Posting here made me realized Cowboys fans in general have an interesting logic in life

[Mr B]

So Bucs over Eagles*, Seahawks? Commanders over Ravens, Colts, Dolphins?

Bit more different once you put a name on incompetence, even most Central Floridians dont want to be a Bucs fan.

If I was a Bucs fan and I was I old enough to enjoy that SB win, absolutely give me that over getting to a SB and losing. I don’t see how anyone would prefer to lose than win (if that’s our choices).

huh? I think you are very confused by the choices, it is either prolonged incompetence with a super bowl (i.e bucs) or having a good team most of the way with less super bowls (i.e seahawks, eagles etc. ), no one is talking about losing in super bowl vs. winning in super bowl obviously.

if you think winning is better than losing then I assume you think winning in divisional round is better than losing in divisional round

Which team has the prolonged incompetence? The team that won a SB or the team that toils in mediocrity and never wins a SB?

[El Turco]

Fuhgeddaboudit

[Jaydubb]

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Kinda wish this guy was still an eagle.lol the eagles have Jake Elliot though so it’s all good but dicker was always a fun guy to have.

[Jaydubb]

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[bluejerseyjinx]

Hopefully the Cowboys will lose their 2 remaining games before losing their first round playoff game. Whatever it takes to get dumb Dak and McCarthy out of here. The sooner the better. Praying for a total beat down where the Lions win 48-10 while Prescott completely stinks with 4 int's. Hopefully a couple of them will be pick sixes.

[Mariner]

It’s been 9 games now that no one has held Patsons.

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[Mamba42]

It’s been 9 games now that no one has held Patsons.

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Someone went through the tape and found 13 plays that could have been called holds but weren't lol.

You can't call a hold every play and the lineman gets some leeway with the rip technique he uses a lot but it's crazy he hasn't had a holding call since week 6. Absolutely incredible really.

This is the price of being on the Cowboys since Jerry tried to get Goodell fired though. We've led the league in penalties since then and it's not a coincidence across multiple different rosters and coaching staffs.

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It’s been 9 games now that no one has held Patsons.

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Someone went through the tape and found 13 plays that could have been called holds but weren't lol.

You can't call a hold every play and the lineman gets some leeway with the rip technique he uses a lot but it's crazy he hasn't had a holding call since week 6. Absolutely incredible really.

This is the price of being on the Cowboys since Jerry tried to get Goodell fired though. We've led the league in penalties since then and it's not a coincidence across multiple different rosters and coaching staffs.

Jerry wanted McCarthy to clean that crap 2 years ago. He's done a great job. Don't you think?

[Jaydubb]

Parsons isn’t the only one effected by holds, it happens to everybody, although I think it’s more obvious on parsons because he’s a superstar so everybody is watching him. Having the biggest fan base in the world to point out every time they think he’s being held doesn’t help either. Refs aren’t supposed to focus on specific players though. Officials favor the offense and so does the league, the rules clearly show that.

[Mr B]

Micah Parsons would shatter the sack record (for the season and for his career) if the ref’s just called it straight.

[Mariner]

Parsons isn’t the only one effected by holds, it happens to everybody, although I think it’s more obvious on parsons because he’s a superstar so everybody is watching him. Having the biggest fan base in the world to point out every time they think he’s being held doesn’t help either. Refs aren’t supposed to focus on specific players though. Officials favor the offense and so does the league, the rules clearly show that.

But not getting any in months is crazy.

[Jaydubb]

Parsons isn’t the only one effected by holds, it happens to everybody, although I think it’s more obvious on parsons because he’s a superstar so everybody is watching him. Having the biggest fan base in the world to point out every time they think he’s being held doesn’t help either. Refs aren’t supposed to focus on specific players though. Officials favor the offense and so does the league, the rules clearly show that.

But not getting any in months is crazy.

I mean I completely agree but I think I can say the same thing about haason reddick. I don’t know when the last time I saw somebody called for a hold against him. Lately I noticed he’s been complaining more on the field, he doesn’t usually do that. I wonder if he’s also getting tired of the no calls. It’s probably more newsworthy for Micah tho because Micah parsons is a perennial mvp candidate.

To be clear I’m not saying I agree with it, I’m just saying refs usually favor the offense. I think the nfl prefers it that way.

[Mariner]

Parsons isn’t the only one effected by holds, it happens to everybody, although I think it’s more obvious on parsons because he’s a superstar so everybody is watching him. Having the biggest fan base in the world to point out every time they think he’s being held doesn’t help either. Refs aren’t supposed to focus on specific players though. Officials favor the offense and so does the league, the rules clearly show that.

But not getting any in months is crazy.

I mean I completely agree but I think I can say the same thing about haason reddick. I don’t know when the last time I saw somebody called for a hold against him. Lately I noticed he’s been complaining more on the field, he doesn’t usually do that. I wonder if he’s also getting tired of the no calls. It’s probably more newsworthy for Micah tho because Micah parsons is a perennial mvp candidate.

To be clear I’m not saying I agree with it, I’m just saying refs usually favor the offense. I think the nfl prefers it that way.

I get what you are saying and agree for the most part.
I’m not expecting the 15 minimum holds. But zero in months is just silly.

[last stand]

Myles Garrett gets held like twice a drive

The nfl will always ignore holding as much as they can because it helps offense. It’s why defensive holding is called so easily whereas offensive is rarely called

Micah parsons is absolutely held. He’s an elite pass rusher. Why would the nfl want him to ruin the scoring output

[Mamba42]

Parsons isn’t the only one effected by holds, it happens to everybody, although I think it’s more obvious on parsons because he’s a superstar so everybody is watching him. Having the biggest fan base in the world to point out every time they think he’s being held doesn’t help either. Refs aren’t supposed to focus on specific players though. Officials favor the offense and so does the league, the rules clearly show that.

But not getting any in months is crazy.

I mean I completely agree but I think I can say the same thing about haason reddick. I don’t know when the last time I saw somebody called for a hold against him. Lately I noticed he’s been complaining more on the field, he doesn’t usually do that. I wonder if he’s also getting tired of the no calls. It’s probably more newsworthy for Micah tho because Micah parsons is a perennial mvp candidate.

To be clear I’m not saying I agree with it, I’m just saying refs usually favor the offense. I think the nfl prefers it that way.

Just looked through some game film and penalties for the Eagles, Reddick last drew a holding penalty against the Chiefs in Week 11. So much more recent than for Parsons, but still a long time for someone of Reddick's caliber. Shows you how crazy it is for Parsons though (his last holding call was in Week 6).

[Jaydubb]

But not getting any in months is crazy.

I mean I completely agree but I think I can say the same thing about haason reddick. I don’t know when the last time I saw somebody called for a hold against him. Lately I noticed he’s been complaining more on the field, he doesn’t usually do that. I wonder if he’s also getting tired of the no calls. It’s probably more newsworthy for Micah tho because Micah parsons is a perennial mvp candidate.

To be clear I’m not saying I agree with it, I’m just saying refs usually favor the offense. I think the nfl prefers it that way.

Just looked through some game film and penalties for the Eagles, Reddick last drew a holding penalty against the Chiefs in Week 11. So much more recent than for Parsons, but still a long time for someone of Reddick's caliber. Shows you how crazy it is for Parsons though (his last holding call was in Week 6).

I wasn’t trying to say it’s been longer for reddick…lol.. I’m just saying this happens to everybody, and you pretty much just proved my point. It’s been a long time for reddick too as you’ve just confirmed. Yes, more recent for reddick but you guys have been complaining about parsons not getting called for a hold for probably a month or two now.

[El Turco]

Bosa used to complain about being held every week but I think he eventually realized it is futile, NFL will pump up the scoring at all cost. At least I dont hear him talking about it as much.

[Mamba42]

I mean I completely agree but I think I can say the same thing about haason reddick. I don’t know when the last time I saw somebody called for a hold against him. Lately I noticed he’s been complaining more on the field, he doesn’t usually do that. I wonder if he’s also getting tired of the no calls. It’s probably more newsworthy for Micah tho because Micah parsons is a perennial mvp candidate.

To be clear I’m not saying I agree with it, I’m just saying refs usually favor the offense. I think the nfl prefers it that way.

Just looked through some game film and penalties for the Eagles, Reddick last drew a holding penalty against the Chiefs in Week 11. So much more recent than for Parsons, but still a long time for someone of Reddick's caliber. Shows you how crazy it is for Parsons though (his last holding call was in Week 6).

I wasn’t trying to say it’s been longer for reddick…lol.. I’m just saying this happens to everybody, and you pretty much just proved my point. It’s been a long time for reddick too as you’ve just confirmed. Yes, more recent for reddick but you guys have been complaining about parsons not getting called for a hold for probably a month or two now.

Twice as long for Parsons though lol.