2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[KnixinSix]

We have IQ. Murray will be guaranteed to make at least what we weren't willing to give IQ. IQ is 3 years younger. It only makes sense if they value Murray more than IQ and he goes in the trade.

As stated in the post above they might feel Murray is the better overall fit next to Brunson and even as a back up PG. IQ could certainly go in that trade or in a follow up one for someone else like Markenen.

Ainge is not doing NYK any favors. IQ goes in the Murray trade or it doesn't happen. No way they risk adding another guard to this roster without shipping one out. I doubt Grimes gets it done so... Most likely IQ/Evan for Murray. Maybe a couple protected picks?

Murray will get the role and the contract that IQ wanted. That won't go over well if IQ is still on the team.

Possible he goes in the trade. But Murray only got traded for 3 unprotected firsts off a career year in SA. Grimes, Fournier and 2 unprotected firsts might get it done. Atl clearly wants to move on for what they deem a non ideal roster fit stuck at about 25 AAV the next four years on their cap. You then have both IQ and RJ as a very strong headliner for a star player or players (possibly Markenen and Olynyk).

[KnixinSix]

Guessing at possible FO motivations: Brunson is the only true 3 level offensive engine on the team. Randle almost. Certainly only one at guard \wing. IQ has some good PG flashes and is a nice player but more a SG. The Knicks have been linked to DMitch, Lavine and now Murray. While I think they need a big wing 3&D, maybe they want that 2nd engine beside Brunson but especially for when he sits. A guess

Murray gives you better size and better dynamic type scoring than IQ. Hes locked into a very favorable contract too. IQ is not far off in terms of quality of player but Murray is probably the better fit next to Brunson in Thibs system and this is Brunson's team. Also Murray is hitting his 3s at above 38% this year. Lastly Murray can probably play back up point better than IQ too.

I'd deal Donte, keep IQ with Murray and deal RJ for OG

Here's the thing: right or wrong this front office is building something around Brunson and they are doing it a certain way..DDV is a Nova boy and very recent signing, Hart is a nova boy and they just resigned him too. I highly doubt either of those guys go. The guys that seem more expendable based on reading the tea leaves are RJ, IQ and Grimes. Randle is a bit of an unknown but it certainly seems like he is 1B to Brunson's 1A.

RJ for OG would be great but doubt we trade with Toronto with the law suit going on.

[KnixinSix]

I would not mind a Mitch, RJ, IQ, Fournier and filler for Murray and Hunter trade.

Brunson, Murray, Hunter, Randle, iHart

Can turn around and send Murray for Spida in the off season if it doesn’t work out.

Waaaaay too much for those 2 players.

[Jalen Bluntson]

As stated in the post above they might feel Murray is the better overall fit next to Brunson and even as a back up PG. IQ could certainly go in that trade or in a follow up one for someone else like Markenen.

Ainge is not doing NYK any favors. IQ goes in the Murray trade or it doesn't happen. No way they risk adding another guard to this roster without shipping one out. I doubt Grimes gets it done so... Most likely IQ/Evan for Murray. Maybe a couple protected picks?

Murray will get the role and the contract that IQ wanted. That won't go over well if IQ is still on the team.

Possible he goes in the trade. But Murray only got traded for 3 unprotected firsts off a career year in SA. Grimes, Fournier and 2 unprotected firsts might get it done. Atl clearly wants to move on for what they deem a non ideal roster fit stuck at about 25 AAV the next four years on their cap. You then have both IQ and RJ as a very strong headliner for a star player or players (possibly Markenen and Olynyk).

No. We are not getting Lauri and Kelly. Stop with these NBA2k trades. We couldn't even get Ainge to trade us one player after months of negotiations. A player he really wanted to trade. He is not helping the Knicks improve. He factually hates NYK. There is no reality in which we pull off Murray/Markanen/Olynyk this TDL.

Murray for Evan/IQ plus picks is the only realistic trade scenario that may be possible. This idea that we go all in by the TDL is silly. It's not realistic and the market is thin as hell. We will be "lucky" to even get Murray.

[stuporman]

Trade speculation at this time of year....

[KnixinSix]

Ainge is not doing NYK any favors. IQ goes in the Murray trade or it doesn't happen. No way they risk adding another guard to this roster without shipping one out. I doubt Grimes gets it done so... Most likely IQ/Evan for Murray. Maybe a couple protected picks?

Murray will get the role and the contract that IQ wanted. That won't go over well if IQ is still on the team.

Possible he goes in the trade. But Murray only got traded for 3 unprotected firsts off a career year in SA. Grimes, Fournier and 2 unprotected firsts might get it done. Atl clearly wants to move on for what they deem a non ideal roster fit stuck at about 25 AAV the next four years on their cap. You then have both IQ and RJ as a very strong headliner for a star player or players (possibly Markenen and Olynyk).

No. We are not getting Lauri and Kelly. Stop with these NBA2k trades. We couldn't even get Ainge to trade us one player after months of negotiations. A player he really wanted to trade. He is not helping the Knicks improve. He factually hates NYK. There is no reality in which we pull off Murray/Markanen/Olynyk this TDL.

Murray for Evan/IQ plus picks is the only realistic trade scenario that may be possible. This idea that we go all in by the TDL is silly. It's not realistic and the market is thin as hell. We will be "lucky" to even get Murray.

RJ other players plus picks can get us Markenen. It is certainly not out of the realm of possibility. I think Ainge is just a ball buster negotiator but that doesn't mean he won't do business with us. And lets not pretend Markenen is now Embiid or even Booker for that matter. He is a tier below the top superstars and Olynyk is a role player.

Atlanta is one of the weakest defensive teams and needs a reboot...

Robinson, Grimes and 2 unprotected for DeJounte

Utah likes RJ and IQ too (as rumored in the Mitchell negotiations)....

RJ, IQ, Fournier and 3 FRPs for Markenen and Olynyk

I think in terms of roster construction pulling off those 2 trades would make our roster extremely balanced and on par with the top teams....



Rough minutes distribution:

C Hartenstein (25), Markenen (8), Olynyk (15)

PF Randle (34), Markenen (14)

SF Markenen (12), Hart(30), DDV (6)

SG Murray (23), DDV (25)

PG Brunson (34), Murray (10), McBride (4)

[Iron Mantis]

Knicks have to be looking at the Pistons to see who they pilfer.

Detroit is poised to make a roster move and they want some proven vets.

[Buttah304]

still not sure why we even want murray, he’s a bad fit on this team

Guessing at possible FO motivations: Brunson is the only true 3 level offensive engine on the team. Randle almost. Certainly only one at guard \wing. IQ has some good PG flashes and is a nice player but more a SG. The Knicks have been linked to DMitch, Lavine and now Murray. While I think they need a big wing 3&D, maybe they want that 2nd engine beside Brunson but especially for when he sits. A guess

This is the part I can see the FO agreeing on even though I don’t see Murray as an impact level player. But if I’m going to critique IQ for a minute - I just don’t see PG level creation. He’s capable of making a swing pass and working around a screen but I rarely look at his possessions and think that was a high level set that we ran. IQ is an engine that prefers things to be a little helter-skelter IE: pull up 3s, east/west scrambling, over dribbling and needing to reset 22 feet out. If he can’t get to his desired spot he’ll look to foul bait/create contact. He’s an incredible weapon and probably has so much more potential but he’s more of a natural 2 guard to me.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Possible he goes in the trade. But Murray only got traded for 3 unprotected firsts off a career year in SA. Grimes, Fournier and 2 unprotected firsts might get it done. Atl clearly wants to move on for what they deem a non ideal roster fit stuck at about 25 AAV the next four years on their cap. You then have both IQ and RJ as a very strong headliner for a star player or players (possibly Markenen and Olynyk).

No. We are not getting Lauri and Kelly. Stop with these NBA2k trades. We couldn't even get Ainge to trade us one player after months of negotiations. A player he really wanted to trade. He is not helping the Knicks improve. He factually hates NYK. There is no reality in which we pull off Murray/Markanen/Olynyk this TDL.

Murray for Evan/IQ plus picks is the only realistic trade scenario that may be possible. This idea that we go all in by the TDL is silly. It's not realistic and the market is thin as hell. We will be "lucky" to even get Murray.

RJ other players plus picks can get us Markenen. It is certainly not out of the realm of possibility. I think Ainge is just a ball buster negotiator but that doesn't mean he won't do business with us.

You must not know the history here. Ainge despises the Knicks and has for a long time. He will engage with us to drive up the price and ultimately trade him elsewhere. See DM trade. We will pay a max cost to get anything out of Danny besides a headache and a waste of time.

One can dream though.

Reality dictates that a Murray for IQ plus whatever is the most likely and only big name trade we can make. Besides Lauri, who else is out there? Other teams will be in on every player available. OG is never happening. Masai hates the Knicks as much as Ainge and there's a lawsuit going on.

[sol537]

Possible he goes in the trade. But Murray only got traded for 3 unprotected firsts off a career year in SA. Grimes, Fournier and 2 unprotected firsts might get it done. Atl clearly wants to move on for what they deem a non ideal roster fit stuck at about 25 AAV the next four years on their cap. You then have both IQ and RJ as a very strong headliner for a star player or players (possibly Markenen and Olynyk).

No. We are not getting Lauri and Kelly. Stop with these NBA2k trades. We couldn't even get Ainge to trade us one player after months of negotiations. A player he really wanted to trade. He is not helping the Knicks improve. He factually hates NYK. There is no reality in which we pull off Murray/Markanen/Olynyk this TDL.

Murray for Evan/IQ plus picks is the only realistic trade scenario that may be possible. This idea that we go all in by the TDL is silly. It's not realistic and the market is thin as hell. We will be "lucky" to even get Murray.

RJ other players plus picks can get us Markenen. It is certainly not out of the realm of possibility. I think Ainge is just a ball buster negotiator but that doesn't mean he won't do business with us. And lets not pretend Markenen is now Embiid or even Booker for that matter. He is a tier below the top superstars and Olynyk is a role player.

Atlanta is one of the weakest defensive teams and needs a reboot...

Robinson, Grimes and 2 unprotected for DeJounte

Utah likes RJ and IQ too (as rumored in the Mitchell negotiations)....

RJ, IQ, Fournier and 3 FRPs for Markenen and Olynyk

I think in terms of roster construction pulling off those 2 trades would make our roster extremely balanced and on par with the top teams....



Rough minutes distribution:

C Hartenstein (25), Markenen (8), Olynyk (15)

PF Randle (34), Markenen (14)

SF Markenen (12), Hart(30), DDV (6)

SG Murray (23), DDV (25)

PG Brunson (34), Murray (10), McBride (4)

This is... pretty good. What indication is there that Utah would trade Lauri? Seems like a good building block for them in Utah... you know... the type of guys they like

[Richard4444]

Knicks have to be looking at the Pistons to see who they pilfer.

Detroit is poised to make a roster move and they want some proven vets.

1) We do not have some proven vets to give away.

2) I am not sure Bojan is a good fit. I fear he turns out to be a PF Fournier. And they will want a FRP to trade him. Burks is redundant for us.

3) We do not need unproven young players. Cade, Ausar, and Duren should be untradable. Isaiah Stewart is an expensive undersized big. Hayes is average at best. Ivey has potential, but he is struggling right now and we have plenty of guards already. Bagley and Wiseman are very weak at D.

[KnixinSix]

No. We are not getting Lauri and Kelly. Stop with these NBA2k trades. We couldn't even get Ainge to trade us one player after months of negotiations. A player he really wanted to trade. He is not helping the Knicks improve. He factually hates NYK. There is no reality in which we pull off Murray/Markanen/Olynyk this TDL.

Murray for Evan/IQ plus picks is the only realistic trade scenario that may be possible. This idea that we go all in by the TDL is silly. It's not realistic and the market is thin as hell. We will be "lucky" to even get Murray.

RJ other players plus picks can get us Markenen. It is certainly not out of the realm of possibility. I think Ainge is just a ball buster negotiator but that doesn't mean he won't do business with us. And lets not pretend Markenen is now Embiid or even Booker for that matter. He is a tier below the top superstars and Olynyk is a role player.

Atlanta is one of the weakest defensive teams and needs a reboot...

Robinson, Grimes and 2 unprotected for DeJounte

Utah likes RJ and IQ too (as rumored in the Mitchell negotiations)....

RJ, IQ, Fournier and 3 FRPs for Markenen and Olynyk

I think in terms of roster construction pulling off those 2 trades would make our roster extremely balanced and on par with the top teams....



Rough minutes distribution:

C Hartenstein (25), Markenen (8), Olynyk (15)

PF Randle (34), Markenen (14)

SF Markenen (12), Hart(30), DDV (6)

SG Murray (23), DDV (25)

PG Brunson (34), Murray (10), McBride (4)

This is... pretty good. What indication is there that Utah would trade Lauri? Seems like a good building block for them in Utah... you know... the type of guys they like

Markenen is kinda no different than Mitchell. Kinda on the same tier similar age etc. Utah seems to be in a clear tank mode 4 or 5 year rebuild plan (like Presti with OKC) . Markenen is almost 27 doesn't really fit the long term timeline nor allowing them to fully tank either. There have been rumors already hes potentially on the block.

[spree2kawhi]

As stated in the post above they might feel Murray is the better overall fit next to Brunson and even as a back up PG. IQ could certainly go in that trade or in a follow up one for someone else like Markenen.

Ainge is not doing NYK any favors. IQ goes in the Murray trade or it doesn't happen. No way they risk adding another guard to this roster without shipping one out. I doubt Grimes gets it done so... Most likely IQ/Evan for Murray. Maybe a couple protected picks?

Murray will get the role and the contract that IQ wanted. That won't go over well if IQ is still on the team.

Possible he goes in the trade. But Murray only got traded for 3 unprotected firsts off a career year in SA. Grimes, Fournier and 2 unprotected firsts might get it done. Atl clearly wants to move on for what they deem a non ideal roster fit stuck at about 25 AAV the next four years on their cap. You then have both IQ and RJ as a very strong headliner for a star player or players (possibly Markenen and Olynyk).

Markkanen is not a SF…

[spree2kawhi]

Knicks have to be looking at the Pistons to see who they pilfer.

Detroit is poised to make a roster move and they want some proven vets.

1) We do not have some proven vets to give away.

2) I am not sure Bojan is a good fit. I fear he turns out to be a PF Fournier. And they will want a FRP to trade him. Burks is redundant for us.

3) We do not need unproven young players. Cade, Ausar, and Duren should be untradable. Isaiah Stewart is an expensive undersized big. Hayes is average at best. Ivey has potential, but he is struggling right now and we have plenty of guards already. Bagley and Wiseman are very weak at D.

They have nothing for us.

[KnixinSix]

Ainge is not doing NYK any favors. IQ goes in the Murray trade or it doesn't happen. No way they risk adding another guard to this roster without shipping one out. I doubt Grimes gets it done so... Most likely IQ/Evan for Murray. Maybe a couple protected picks?

Murray will get the role and the contract that IQ wanted. That won't go over well if IQ is still on the team.

Possible he goes in the trade. But Murray only got traded for 3 unprotected firsts off a career year in SA. Grimes, Fournier and 2 unprotected firsts might get it done. Atl clearly wants to move on for what they deem a non ideal roster fit stuck at about 25 AAV the next four years on their cap. You then have both IQ and RJ as a very strong headliner for a star player or players (possibly Markenen and Olynyk).

Markkanen is not a SF…

He played SF a full season in Cleveland and has played substantial minutes there on and off in other sessons.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/markkla01.html

In fact he can play any of the frontcourt positions and has throughout his career.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Ainge is not doing NYK any favors. IQ goes in the Murray trade or it doesn't happen. No way they risk adding another guard to this roster without shipping one out. I doubt Grimes gets it done so... Most likely IQ/Evan for Murray. Maybe a couple protected picks?

Murray will get the role and the contract that IQ wanted. That won't go over well if IQ is still on the team.

Possible he goes in the trade. But Murray only got traded for 3 unprotected firsts off a career year in SA. Grimes, Fournier and 2 unprotected firsts might get it done. Atl clearly wants to move on for what they deem a non ideal roster fit stuck at about 25 AAV the next four years on their cap. You then have both IQ and RJ as a very strong headliner for a star player or players (possibly Markenen and Olynyk).

Markkanen is not coming to the Knicks…

Fixed for accuracy

[KnixinSix]

Ainge is not doing NYK any favors. IQ goes in the Murray trade or it doesn't happen. No way they risk adding another guard to this roster without shipping one out. I doubt Grimes gets it done so... Most likely IQ/Evan for Murray. Maybe a couple protected picks?

Murray will get the role and the contract that IQ wanted. That won't go over well if IQ is still on the team.

Possible he goes in the trade. But Murray only got traded for 3 unprotected firsts off a career year in SA. Grimes, Fournier and 2 unprotected firsts might get it done. Atl clearly wants to move on for what they deem a non ideal roster fit stuck at about 25 AAV the next four years on their cap. You then have both IQ and RJ as a very strong headliner for a star player or players (possibly Markenen and Olynyk).

Markkanen is not a SF…

He played SF a full season in Cleveland and has played substantial minutes there on and off in other sessons.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/markkla01.html

In fact he can play any of the frontcourt positions and has throughout his career.

[finestrg]

Two ideas:

(1) Minor trade with the Sixers for Mo Bamba -- thanks to my friend Al for this idea, and I think it's a good one.
- Only 25 years old.
- 7'0" 230 + with great length.
- He'd replace at least some of Mitch's rim protection.
- Has some real offensive ability (he could always shoot the ball -- this extra dimension could help open the floor up even more for the other players).
- If Mitch is gone the rest of the year, i think this guy could be a suitable replacement.
- Could Bamba/Haretenstein be an even better tandem in the middle than Mitch/Haretenstein?
- When he's actually played (Orlando, a little bit for the Sixers now), he's had good moments and has produced.
- You would think it shouldn't take a lot to get him.
- You would think that if we did pull off a trade for him, a majority of our primary assets would still remain intact.

(2) Miles Bridges -- either in a trade before the deadline --OR-- in FA in the off-season. I believe he's an UFA with Bird rights so correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that may mean that if we traded for him, we'd be able to exceed the cap in order to retain him in the off-season. I'm not sure how much $$ we'll have in FA, so I think he'd be more of a trade option.
- I get the problems he's had are major -- would we be able to deal with and move forward with his DV history?
- He's paid a steep price -- has he paid enough?
- Only 25 years old.
- I think he might work best as an RJ Barrett replacement (i.e. acquire Bridges, frees us up to deal Barrett).
- He could play 3 and also slide over and play some backup 4 behind Randle for stretches.
- The Hornets were going nowhere before he got back and haven't been that successful since he's been back. Would they be willing to turn the page from him if they were offered say a solid young player and 2 1st round picks?
- Because of the problems he's had, would he come a little cheaper in a trade and then be a little cheaper to retain in the off-season?
- Not saying I'm 100% sold on the idea of acquiring Miles Bridges -- I'm not! Just kicking the tires on it right now and curious if you all think this could be a unique opportunity to up the talent level, an opportunity that normally wouldn't have been there otherwise.

[Jeffrey]

No way... they are going to ride KD and Booker until contract close to expiring. New billionaire owner doens't give a sh.it and besides he gave up depth and draft capital for KD and Beal.

That's what I'm saying!

Why does anyone think Phoenix would trade KD or Booker at this point??? Those guys sell tickets. They're not going anywhere.

They can demand a trade. Especially KD who is a diva. You do not want to start a beef with KD. He is old and if is locked for the season, he will lose trade value.

I can somewhat agree with KD asking for a trade because of his age and he doesn't have the patience. Sh.it he didn't have the patience with Kyrie and Harden. He knows fathertime is upon him and he wants to maximize a place where he can win. Each year deadline goes by, his value will certainly go down.

I would love to have KD if Brunson and Randle is part of it. As long as that fcker doesn't start becoming the GM of the team, then I would have no problem with it.

[sol537]

I would not mind a Mitch, RJ, IQ, Fournier and filler for Murray and Hunter trade.

Brunson, Murray, Hunter, Randle, iHart

Can turn around and send Murray for Spida in the off season if it doesn’t work out.

Waaaaay too much for those 2 players.

They toss in Okongwu and maybe we toss in a protected pick or second rounders. It’s a sort of shuffle the decks trade to give both teams pieces that might fit better.