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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#361 » by Kreamy » Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:29 am

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BillNyeBballGuy wrote:I didn't love the Dick pick, but I do think he's being too harshly criticized this early on. He's super young and hasn't filled out yet at all. If he's still stuck in the G-league next year then we might have a problem, but for now let him develop with the 905 in peace


He's not being harshly crificzed at all... this is not some raw high potential player. This is a guy drafted based on one skill, who's NBA floor was basically supposed to be a guy that even if everything else sucks should at least be able to make open 3s and has ot been able to do that at an NBA or gleague level. It's all fair. Like I said it's not like we're mad he socks defensively, the game is too fast for him, he has no handle, limited athleticism and no go to scoring moves, it's the fact he's all that AND he can't even shoot. He's being criticized fairly.


Was told by Bobby that Gradey isn't just a shooter though. Our GM is either a liar or a terrible talent evaluator


I think one of Masai's biggest mistakes was taking a cap numbers guy in Bobby and thinking he could mold him into a basketball guy. Bobby's been living off the Kawhi deal which he got lucky with because the Spurs assistant GM was his ex-roommate. We've been paying them back for that trade since.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#362 » by Boogie! » Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:31 am

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BillNyeBballGuy wrote:I didn't love the Dick pick, but I do think he's being too harshly criticized this early on. He's super young and hasn't filled out yet at all. If he's still stuck in the G-league next year then we might have a problem, but for now let him develop with the 905 in peace


He's not being harshly crificzed at all... this is not some raw high potential player. This is a guy drafted based on one skill, who's NBA floor was basically supposed to be a guy that even if everything else sucks should at least be able to make open 3s and has ot been able to do that at an NBA or gleague level. It's all fair. Like I said it's not like we're mad he socks defensively, the game is too fast for him, he has no handle, limited athleticism and no go to scoring moves, it's the fact he's all that AND he can't even shoot. He's being criticized fairly.


Was told by Bobby that Gradey isn't just a shooter though. Our GM is either a liar or a terrible talent evaluator

he's not just a shooter implies that he at least could shoot and was expected to be able to shoot. Meaning he can shoot but He has the potential to be more. The issue isn't the evaluation it's that dick sucks. He shot 40% in college so it's not like you'd expect him to be a bad shooter.
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Post#363 » by ItsDanger » Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:54 am

Dick is more than a shooter. He can cut, pass, rebound. He's been terrible so far but he isn't a one dimensional player like some of you are implying.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#364 » by Tortiglioni » Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:14 am

ItsDanger wrote:Dick is more than a shooter. He can cut, pass, rebound. He's been terrible so far but he isn't a one dimensional player like some of you are implying.


Dick is less than a shooter. If he was just a shooter people would be thrilled at this point.
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Post#365 » by Los_29 » Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:23 am

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hyper316 wrote:
Boogie! wrote:
He's not being harshly crificzed at all... this is not some raw high potential player. This is a guy drafted based on one skill, who's NBA floor was basically supposed to be a guy that even if everything else sucks should at least be able to make open 3s and has ot been able to do that at an NBA or gleague level. It's all fair. Like I said it's not like we're mad he socks defensively, the game is too fast for him, he has no handle, limited athleticism and no go to scoring moves, it's the fact he's all that AND he can't even shoot. He's being criticized fairly.


Was told by Bobby that Gradey isn't just a shooter though. Our GM is either a liar or a terrible talent evaluator


I think one of Masai's biggest mistakes was taking a cap numbers guy in Bobby and thinking he could mold him into a basketball guy. Bobby's been living off the Kawhi deal which he got lucky with because the Spurs assistant GM was his ex-roommate. We've been paying them back for that trade since.


lol, you don’t actually believe this, do you? We didn’t get lucky with the Kawhi deal. We were the only team willing to take that risk and we put the best offer on the table.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#366 » by lucasc » Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:44 am

All I want to know is why this Bum is not playing on the G-League. Masai and Bobby now babying their bad draft picks now? What happened to earning a spot?
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#367 » by Reeko » Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:55 am

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Kreamy wrote:
hyper316 wrote:
Was told by Bobby that Gradey isn't just a shooter though. Our GM is either a liar or a terrible talent evaluator


I think one of Masai's biggest mistakes was taking a cap numbers guy in Bobby and thinking he could mold him into a basketball guy. Bobby's been living off the Kawhi deal which he got lucky with because the Spurs assistant GM was his ex-roommate. We've been paying them back for that trade since.


lol, you don’t actually believe this, do you? We didn’t get lucky with the Kawhi deal. We were the only team willing to take that risk and we put the best offer on the table.

Don't think so. It was pretty widely reported that the Lakers were prepared to put a significant package together to land Kawhi in a trade. Pop just hates the Lakers and refused to send him to LA which was Kawhi's preferred destination.
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Post#368 » by Landomar » Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:22 am

Dick was not on my list of players who I wanted to draft, and he hasn't shown anything to get excited about so far. Given our terrible bench, it would have helped a lot to have taken a guy like Podziemski or Hawkins who is good right away. Still, when they drafted Dick, at least the pick made sense at the time, so I'm not too upset about it. He's very young, and even though this year has been bad, there's still some chance that he can improve enough to be a rotation player.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#369 » by Grew » Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:24 am

Team is broken from management to coaching to relationships between our best players. Starters have no chemistry, our top 3 most experienced bench players have the basketball IQ of a walnut. We have zero spacing and our best most versatile 3pt shooter is a 3rd year player who couldn't shoot over 30 percent from deep when he came into the league.

Gradey has been bad. People on here need to chill out on the scathing remarks though. Hard to ask a 19 year old system player to come in to a broken system and provide the only spacing on the team while playing with a team full of guys who want to get there own and Scottie Barnes, who for some reason Darko loved to sit on the bench for almost all of Gradey's shifts. Darko then proceeds to run nothing for him and tells him to go stand in the corner and get a rhythm whenever Dennis and Pascal decide there's no other choice but to throw it there.

It's easy to forget that most people on this board like watching box scores more than games and have never played competitive basketball in their lives, but threads like these bring it back to light. Reminiscent of the 50+ pages of Pat Mccaw hate when all he was there to do was not take shots away from the 7 guys on the team who had put up 15-20+ points seasons in there careers and just be a half-ass connector on one of the better teams ever in raptors history.

The "guys we missed out on" are either more experienced college players placed on proven rosters or young guys shooting garbage percentages but have green lights. None of which are Kobe Bufkin who this board would have drafted if the pre draft pole was doing our drafting.

Hard to believe people gave up on a 19 year old 5-10 games in. Harder to believe it's the same people that hate the direction of the team and know how broken we are from top to bottom. Once this is Scottie Barnes team, we have turned a corner and we are giving Gradey at least the 25 minutes a night we are letting Gary flush down the toilet right now, we can watch for a season and a half and actually see what we have. Until then calling him a bust is asinine. If he can't produce under those circumstances, we botched a promising players development by placing him in a terrible environment and then tanking his belief in himself. Gradey has alot of work to do physically and mentally, but he definitely has the talent to not be a bust in the NBA, if you can't see that, it's time to go back to watching the leafs and jays.
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Post#370 » by Los_29 » Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:57 am

Reeko wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Kreamy wrote:
I think one of Masai's biggest mistakes was taking a cap numbers guy in Bobby and thinking he could mold him into a basketball guy. Bobby's been living off the Kawhi deal which he got lucky with because the Spurs assistant GM was his ex-roommate. We've been paying them back for that trade since.


lol, you don’t actually believe this, do you? We didn’t get lucky with the Kawhi deal. We were the only team willing to take that risk and we put the best offer on the table.

Don't think so. It was pretty widely reported that the Lakers were prepared to put a significant package together to land Kawhi in a trade. Pop just hates the Lakers and refused to send him to LA which was Kawhi's preferred destination.


Rumour has it that the Lakers offered Ingram, Kuzma and a FRP for Kawhi. There was no significant trade package from the Lakers.
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Post#371 » by HiJiNX » Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:15 am

Grew wrote:Team is broken from management to coaching to relationships between our best players. Starters have no chemistry, our top 3 most experienced bench players have the basketball IQ of a walnut. We have zero spacing and our best most versatile 3pt shooter is a 3rd year player who couldn't shoot over 30 percent from deep when he came into the league.

Gradey has been bad. People on here need to chill out on the scathing remarks though. Hard to ask a 19 year old system player to come in to a broken system and provide the only spacing on the team while playing with a team full of guys who want to get there own and Scottie Barnes, who for some reason Darko loved to sit on the bench for almost all of Gradey's shifts. Darko then proceeds to run nothing for him and tells him to go stand in the corner and get a rhythm whenever Dennis and Pascal decide there's no other choice but to throw it there.

It's easy to forget that most people on this board like watching box scores more than games and have never played competitive basketball in their lives, but threads like these bring it back to light. Reminiscent of the 50+ pages of Pat Mccaw hate when all he was there to do was not take shots away from the 7 guys on the team who had put up 15-20+ points seasons in there careers and just be a half-ass connector on one of the better teams ever in raptors history.

The "guys we missed out on" are either more experienced college players placed on proven rosters or young guys shooting garbage percentages but have green lights. None of which are Kobe Bufkin who this board would have drafted if the pre draft pole was doing our drafting.

Hard to believe people gave up on a 19 year old 5-10 games in. Harder to believe it's the same people that hate the direction of the team and know how broken we are from top to bottom. Once this is Scottie Barnes team, we have turned a corner and we are giving Gradey at least the 25 minutes a night we are letting Gary flush down the toilet right now, we can watch for a season and a half and actually see what we have. Until then calling him a bust is asinine. If he can't produce under those circumstances, we botched a promising players development by placing him in a terrible environment and then tanking his belief in himself. Gradey has alot of work to do physically and mentally, but he definitely has the talent to not be a bust in the NBA, if you can't see that, it's time to go back to watching the leafs and jays.

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Post#372 » by ciueli » Wed Dec 27, 2023 3:12 pm

HiJiNX wrote:
Grew wrote:Team is broken from management to coaching to relationships between our best players. Starters have no chemistry, our top 3 most experienced bench players have the basketball IQ of a walnut. We have zero spacing and our best most versatile 3pt shooter is a 3rd year player who couldn't shoot over 30 percent from deep when he came into the league.

Gradey has been bad. People on here need to chill out on the scathing remarks though. Hard to ask a 19 year old system player to come in to a broken system and provide the only spacing on the team while playing with a team full of guys who want to get there own and Scottie Barnes, who for some reason Darko loved to sit on the bench for almost all of Gradey's shifts. Darko then proceeds to run nothing for him and tells him to go stand in the corner and get a rhythm whenever Dennis and Pascal decide there's no other choice but to throw it there.

It's easy to forget that most people on this board like watching box scores more than games and have never played competitive basketball in their lives, but threads like these bring it back to light. Reminiscent of the 50+ pages of Pat Mccaw hate when all he was there to do was not take shots away from the 7 guys on the team who had put up 15-20+ points seasons in there careers and just be a half-ass connector on one of the better teams ever in raptors history.

The "guys we missed out on" are either more experienced college players placed on proven rosters or young guys shooting garbage percentages but have green lights. None of which are Kobe Bufkin who this board would have drafted if the pre draft pole was doing our drafting.

Hard to believe people gave up on a 19 year old 5-10 games in. Harder to believe it's the same people that hate the direction of the team and know how broken we are from top to bottom. Once this is Scottie Barnes team, we have turned a corner and we are giving Gradey at least the 25 minutes a night we are letting Gary flush down the toilet right now, we can watch for a season and a half and actually see what we have. Until then calling him a bust is asinine. If he can't produce under those circumstances, we botched a promising players development by placing him in a terrible environment and then tanking his belief in himself. Gradey has alot of work to do physically and mentally, but he definitely has the talent to not be a bust in the NBA, if you can't see that, it's time to go back to watching the leafs and jays.

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Except there's no mention of the fact that he was hunted mercilessly on defence whenever he was on the floor. This team is not great on offence, realistically that means they need to be amazing on defence to get wins. Playing Gradey at all compromises that, it's not surprising he only lasted a few games before being sent to the G-League. Maybe if he was as advertised on offence it would be different but he isn't given his abysmal 43.1% True Shooting.

Unfortunately he likely won't be getting significant minutes any time this season as the front office really wants that pick to convey in a weak draft, we'll be trying to win games right up until the end of the season. Maybe he'll get some run next season when we own our pick free and clear and are finally willing to tank for Cooper Flagg after Pascal or OG bolt in free agency?
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Post#373 » by Rodrickle » Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:00 pm

Grew wrote:Team is broken from management to coaching to relationships between our best players. Starters have no chemistry, our top 3 most experienced bench players have the basketball IQ of a walnut. We have zero spacing and our best most versatile 3pt shooter is a 3rd year player who couldn't shoot over 30 percent from deep when he came into the league.

Gradey has been bad. People on here need to chill out on the scathing remarks though. Hard to ask a 19 year old system player to come in to a broken system and provide the only spacing on the team while playing with a team full of guys who want to get there own and Scottie Barnes, who for some reason Darko loved to sit on the bench for almost all of Gradey's shifts. Darko then proceeds to run nothing for him and tells him to go stand in the corner and get a rhythm whenever Dennis and Pascal decide there's no other choice but to throw it there.

It's easy to forget that most people on this board like watching box scores more than games and have never played competitive basketball in their lives, but threads like these bring it back to light. Reminiscent of the 50+ pages of Pat Mccaw hate when all he was there to do was not take shots away from the 7 guys on the team who had put up 15-20+ points seasons in there careers and just be a half-ass connector on one of the better teams ever in raptors history.

The "guys we missed out on are either more experienced college players placed on proven rosters or young guys shooting garbage percentages but have green lights. None of which are Kobe Bufkin who this board would have drafted if the pre draft pole was doing our drafting.

Hard to believe people gave up on a 19 year old 5-10 games in. Harder to believe it's the same people that hate the direction of the team and know how broken we are from top to bottom. Once this is Scottie Barnes team, we have turned a corner and we are giving Gradey at least the 25 minutes a night we are letting Gary flush down the toilet right now, we can watch for a season and a half and actually see what we have. Until then calling him a bust is asinine. If he can't produce under those circumstances, we botched a promising players development by placing him in a terrible environment and then tanking his belief in himself. Gradey has alot of work to do physically and mentally, but he definitely has the talent to not be a bust in the NBA, if you can't see that, it's time to go back to watching the leafs and jays.



While you're right about the team being in a bad state, but a good prospect should still be able to not be complete ass, especially in the G League . Gradey has been horrific. He has been getting completely open shots and he can't make them, which was his calling card. But even so, shooters sometimes need adjustment, but he can't do anything else. You can blame the team (Both Raptors and G league) all you want but we're not asking much of him. He's making his G League team worse when he's on the floor which is unreal. This post seems similar to the apologetic Bargnani posts back in the day where Bargnani was never to blame, but Mitchell, Bosh, Ford, the front office asking him to gain weight was the reason he sucked. (Maybe he just didn't want to get in shape). Not the fact that he had the worst defensive awareness in the league, had low BBIQ, and didn't give a sht.

Its too early to for sure call Gradey a bust. He can turn it around. But it really doesn't look like he has a high ceiling. I don't know if there's anyone that looked this bad in the G league that became an good NBA player. I hope he does become one, but I think the odds are against it. And Darko has been bad, but I don't think you can blame Gradey's play on him. He's probably been given more opportunity than most coaches would. And If he can't play with inferior players in the G league, why would be get plays run for him with the big club?
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#374 » by WaltFrazier » Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:06 pm

JustLucky wrote:player development in the nba i believe is mostly luck I wouldnt sweat it too muc. I think were seeing the variance of that from going from the best development team to the worst with little changes.

The biggest factor is the person you draft most everything else is noise

If it's mostly luck then we didn't deserve all the credit and reputation we got in the bench mob days
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Post#375 » by Loso04 » Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:01 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
JustLucky wrote:player development in the nba i believe is mostly luck I wouldnt sweat it too muc. I think were seeing the variance of that from going from the best development team to the worst with little changes.

The biggest factor is the person you draft most everything else is noise

If it's mostly luck then we didn't deserve all the credit and reputation we got in the bench mob days


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Post#376 » by Jadoogar » Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:36 pm

Los_29 wrote:
Kreamy wrote:
hyper316 wrote:
Was told by Bobby that Gradey isn't just a shooter though. Our GM is either a liar or a terrible talent evaluator


I think one of Masai's biggest mistakes was taking a cap numbers guy in Bobby and thinking he could mold him into a basketball guy. Bobby's been living off the Kawhi deal which he got lucky with because the Spurs assistant GM was his ex-roommate. We've been paying them back for that trade since.


lol, you don’t actually believe this, do you? We didn’t get lucky with the Kawhi deal. We were the only team willing to take that risk and we put the best offer on the table.


idk, our offer wasn't actually good. Demar (fringe allstar), Poeltl (decent center at best) and a FRP is not a good offer for a player of Kawhi's caliber. We were lucky in a few factors. Kawhi was an expiring, discontent and the Spurs refused to trade him to the lakers. Lakers would have had a much better offer than us if the Spurs were open to it.
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Post#377 » by Grew » Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:50 pm

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Grew wrote:Team is broken from management to coaching to relationships between our best players. Starters have no chemistry, our top 3 most experienced bench players have the basketball IQ of a walnut. We have zero spacing and our best most versatile 3pt shooter is a 3rd year player who couldn't shoot over 30 percent from deep when he came into the league.

Gradey has been bad. People on here need to chill out on the scathing remarks though. Hard to ask a 19 year old system player to come in to a broken system and provide the only spacing on the team while playing with a team full of guys who want to get there own and Scottie Barnes, who for some reason Darko loved to sit on the bench for almost all of Gradey's shifts. Darko then proceeds to run nothing for him and tells him to go stand in the corner and get a rhythm whenever Dennis and Pascal decide there's no other choice but to throw it there.

It's easy to forget that most people on this board like watching box scores more than games and have never played competitive basketball in their lives, but threads like these bring it back to light. Reminiscent of the 50+ pages of Pat Mccaw hate when all he was there to do was not take shots away from the 7 guys on the team who had put up 15-20+ points seasons in there careers and just be a half-ass connector on one of the better teams ever in raptors history.

The "guys we missed out on are either more experienced college players placed on proven rosters or young guys shooting garbage percentages but have green lights. None of which are Kobe Bufkin who this board would have drafted if the pre draft pole was doing our drafting.

Hard to believe people gave up on a 19 year old 5-10 games in. Harder to believe it's the same people that hate the direction of the team and know how broken we are from top to bottom. Once this is Scottie Barnes team, we have turned a corner and we are giving Gradey at least the 25 minutes a night we are letting Gary flush down the toilet right now, we can watch for a season and a half and actually see what we have. Until then calling him a bust is asinine. If he can't produce under those circumstances, we botched a promising players development by placing him in a terrible environment and then tanking his belief in himself. Gradey has alot of work to do physically and mentally, but he definitely has the talent to not be a bust in the NBA, if you can't see that, it's time to go back to watching the leafs and jays.



While you're right about the team being in a bad state, but a good prospect should still be able to not be complete ass, especially in the G League . Gradey has been horrific. He has been getting completely open shots and he can't make them, which was his calling card. But even so, shooters sometimes need adjustment, but he can't do anything else. You can blame the team (Both Raptors and G league) all you want but we're not asking much of him. He's making his G League team worse when he's on the floor which is unreal. This post seems similar to the apologetic Bargnani posts back in the day where Bargnani was never to blame, but Mitchell, Bosh, Ford, the front office asking him to gain weight was the reason he sucked. (Maybe he just didn't want to get in shape). Not the fact that he had the worst defensive awareness in the league, had low BBIQ, and didn't give a sht.

Its too early to for sure call Gradey a bust. He can turn it around. But it really doesn't look like he has a high ceiling. I don't know if there's anyone that looked this bad in the G league that became an good NBA player. I hope he does become one, but I think the odds are against it. And Darko has been bad, but I don't think you can blame Gradey's play on him. He's probably been given more opportunity than most coaches would. And If he can't play with inferior players in the G league, why would be get plays run for him with the big club?


The gleague is irrelevant. Gradey already showed he can play against those guys in summer league. The gleague is a bunch of chuckers hoping to get called up, Gradey is a system guy, who we sent to an already 0-7 team once our coach gave up on him. Chris Boucher was a gleague MVP. Most rotation players in the NBA have never sniffed the gleague and most of the best gleaguers ever have never sniffed an NBA rotation.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#378 » by Grew » Wed Dec 27, 2023 8:58 pm

ciueli wrote:
HiJiNX wrote:
Grew wrote:Team is broken from management to coaching to relationships between our best players. Starters have no chemistry, our top 3 most experienced bench players have the basketball IQ of a walnut. We have zero spacing and our best most versatile 3pt shooter is a 3rd year player who couldn't shoot over 30 percent from deep when he came into the league.

Gradey has been bad. People on here need to chill out on the scathing remarks though. Hard to ask a 19 year old system player to come in to a broken system and provide the only spacing on the team while playing with a team full of guys who want to get there own and Scottie Barnes, who for some reason Darko loved to sit on the bench for almost all of Gradey's shifts. Darko then proceeds to run nothing for him and tells him to go stand in the corner and get a rhythm whenever Dennis and Pascal decide there's no other choice but to throw it there.

It's easy to forget that most people on this board like watching box scores more than games and have never played competitive basketball in their lives, but threads like these bring it back to light. Reminiscent of the 50+ pages of Pat Mccaw hate when all he was there to do was not take shots away from the 7 guys on the team who had put up 15-20+ points seasons in there careers and just be a half-ass connector on one of the better teams ever in raptors history.

The "guys we missed out on" are either more experienced college players placed on proven rosters or young guys shooting garbage percentages but have green lights. None of which are Kobe Bufkin who this board would have drafted if the pre draft pole was doing our drafting.

Hard to believe people gave up on a 19 year old 5-10 games in. Harder to believe it's the same people that hate the direction of the team and know how broken we are from top to bottom. Once this is Scottie Barnes team, we have turned a corner and we are giving Gradey at least the 25 minutes a night we are letting Gary flush down the toilet right now, we can watch for a season and a half and actually see what we have. Until then calling him a bust is asinine. If he can't produce under those circumstances, we botched a promising players development by placing him in a terrible environment and then tanking his belief in himself. Gradey has alot of work to do physically and mentally, but he definitely has the talent to not be a bust in the NBA, if you can't see that, it's time to go back to watching the leafs and jays.

Yeah, you get it.

This guy gets it.


Except there's no mention of the fact that he was hunted mercilessly on defence whenever he was on the floor. This team is not great on offence, realistically that means they need to be amazing on defence to get wins. Playing Gradey at all compromises that, it's not surprising he only lasted a few games before being sent to the G-League. Maybe if he was as advertised on offence it would be different but he isn't given his abysmal 43.1% True Shooting.

Unfortunately he likely won't be getting significant minutes any time this season as the front office really wants that pick to convey in a weak draft, we'll be trying to win games right up until the end of the season. Maybe he'll get some run next season when we own our pick free and clear and are finally willing to tank for Cooper Flagg after Pascal or OG bolt in free agency?



This team can't play defense without Gradey either. As we saw last game when the tanking Utah Jazz walked all over us to a huge comeback. Gradey isn't going to stop getting hunted until he gets time a proves himself. The refs aren't going to stop calling a foul everytime he breathes on someone until he gets time and proves himself. If I was an NBA player I would see this fresh faced, skinny blonde boy and want to go at him too. He definitely had some rookie moments on defense, he also had some really good ones, showing flashes of good team and individual defense. The defensive possession that sticks out in my mind, was one of the last games he got minutes in, when MVP candidate Jayson Tatum had him 1v1, Gradey stayed with his dribble moves and Tatum elected to brick a stepback 3 over Gradey's outstretched arm. The kid has the potential to not get smoked on defense. Our team full of defenders has looked mid at best this season in Darko's system defensively, and sometimes absolutely terrible, Gradey or no Gradey.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#379 » by geokilla » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:44 pm

The problem I have with Gradey Dick is that he's playing so poorly, even the 905 doesn't want to play him. If you can't play in the G League, then you're not a good professional basketball player, period. Is he nervous? Does our development suck and we're just running on reputation? Only the organization knows. One thing I do know is that Gradey is 2 years away from being 2 years away.
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Re: The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2 

Post#380 » by TorontoBarneys » Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:47 pm

geokilla wrote:The problem I have with Gradey Dick is that he's playing so poorly, even the 905 doesn't want to play him. If you can't play in the G League, then you're not a good professional basketball player, period. Is he nervous? Does our development suck and we're just running on reputation? Only the organization knows. One thing I do know is that Gradey is 2 years away from being 2 years away.


It's pretty tragic that a guy we drafted primarily to come in and immediately help out at a weak area of ours ended up becoming such a long-term project (at best).

Dude can't even get off catch-and-shoot 3s, and makes them at a horrific clip. I don't know what to say.

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