OT: Are Trae and Luka on the same level offensively?

King Ken · Post #21 » by **King Ken** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:51 am

Bob8 wrote:
King Ken wrote:I believe there is a gap but it's not a big one.

Gap looks pretty big.

https://stathead.com/tiny/DUlSp

https://dunksandthrees.com/epm

The massive gap is at the rim due to size and strength

Bob8 · Post #22 » by **Bob8** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:00 am

King Ken wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
King Ken wrote:I believe there is a gap but it's not a big one.

Gap looks pretty big.

https://stathead.com/tiny/DUlSp

https://dunksandthrees.com/epm

The massive gap is at the rim due to size and strength

Sure, being a lot bigger and playing the same position will always help a lot.

If someone is scoring a lot more, is more efficient and has all advanced stats a lot better, then is difficult to say that gap is not big.

Post #23 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 1:45 pm

Do me a favor, gentlemen, and keep the conversation civil and productive here.

This is supposed to be a safe place for Hawks fans to converse. Guests are welcome, obviously.
But this particular subject matter tends to get inflamed rather quickly.

Don't let that happen here.

King Ken · Post #24 » by **King Ken** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 3:16 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Do me a favor, gentlemen, and keep the conversation civil and productive here.

This is supposed to be a safe place for Hawks fans to converse. Guests are welcome, obviously.
But this particular subject matter tends to get inflamed rather quickly.

Don't let that happen here.

Bob8 is a troll. He really has nothing to add here.

Post #25 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Dec 28, 2023 5:28 pm

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Bob8 · Post #27 » by **Bob8** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:12 am

King Ken wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Do me a favor, gentlemen, and keep the conversation civil and productive here.

This is supposed to be a safe place for Hawks fans to converse. Guests are welcome, obviously.
But this particular subject matter tends to get inflamed rather quickly.

Don't let that happen here.

Bob8 is a troll. He really has nothing to add here.

Can you please explain what have I written to be considered trolling?

Post #28 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:16 am

I am disappointed...but not surprised.

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jayu70 · Post #30 » by **jayu70** » Thu May 9, 2024 9:08 pm

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Post #31 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu May 16, 2024 5:09 pm

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jayu70 · Post #32 » by **jayu70** » Thu May 23, 2024 8:07 pm

Interesting nuggets about the trade 6 years later:

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Though Cuban got a lot of his timeline wrong. :lol:

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Post #33 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri May 31, 2024 4:18 am

Unreal

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Post #34 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:13 pm

Trae and Luka are definitely on the same level defensively:

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Post #35 » by **dms269** » Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:46 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Trae and Luka are definitely on the same level defensively:

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Waiting for the nicknames to start rolling in...

tbhawksfan1 · Post #36 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:34 pm

dms269 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Trae and Luka are definitely on the same level defensively:

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He looks unplayable on the defensive end in this video. Not just that he can't move but he is also often out of position and guarding no one

Post #37 » by **Jamaaliver** » Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:33 pm

tbhawksfan1 wrote:He looks unplayable on the defensive end in this video. Not just that he can't move but he is also often out of position and guarding no one

To be fair, he's been playing injured for weeks.

But he's never been a particularly strong defender and always seems to get a pass for it.

Turns out that playing FIBA during the offseason, becoming a first time father and then playing 9 straight months of NBA Basketball as a number 1 option -- is probably too much for any one person to carry.

tbhawksfan1 · Post #38 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:42 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
tbhawksfan1 wrote:He looks unplayable on the defensive end in this video. Not just that he can't move but he is also often out of position and guarding no one

To be fair, he's been playing injured for weeks.

But he's never been a particularly strong defender and always seems to get a pass for it.

Turns out that playing FIBA during the offseason, becoming a first time father and then playing 9 straight months of NBA Basketball as a number 1 option -- is probably too much for any one person to carry.

He might try reducing his body fat. He is about 25 pounds over the weight that he should play at. One thing Trae has over him is Trae is in shape and will likely have a long, productive career. Luka looks like his lack of fitness will effect his career. It already is

Post #39 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:31 pm

The criticism will be unyielding all summer for luka.

The parallels between he and Trae are undeniable.

Flopping, poor defense and complaining to refs -- constantly.

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Post #40 » by **HMFFL** » Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:45 pm

Luka is the better offensive player.

As for defensively they're more similar.