Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET)

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Corey Kispert

[Hal14]

They are not going into the Playoffs with Sam Hauser as dependable depth.
Because they are obviously not.

Why not?

They will acquire a quality upgrade who can bring scoring to both home
and away games during the Playoffs and it will be costly.
1st round costly...
This player will join Horford (who needs some Playoff Offensive help at times) and
Pritchard, who has stepped up into a larger role.

Like who? What player can we realistically acquire via trade who would come off the bench for us and would be an upgrade over Hauser (one of the best 3&D bench players in the league right now) who would be such a big upgrade over Hauser that it justifies trading away a 1st round pick?

And who are we giving away in the deal to match salaries?

Because Hauser is not a dependable road scorer, especially in the Playoffs.
They need a scorer/wing type better.

What am I Nostradamus?
There will be someone available.
It will be costly.
Wish it was Olynyk.
Oh well...

just thought of something: Walsh, Hauser, picks and choose from deep bench guys for?

Hauser hasn't really had a chance to prove himself in the playoffs yet. He played well vs Atlanta in limited minutes. But then after that didn't get playing time - maybe if Joe put him in the game more vs Miami, we would have won that series.

But Joe instead of played Grant (probably just because Grant had more NBA experience and more playoff experience) but Grant is gone now, so it's Hauser's turn.

-Christian Braun had no playoff experience before last season, but then he was a solid contributor in the Nuggets rotation when they won the title
-Duncan Robinson, same thing - had no playoff experience, then was starting for the Heat team that beat Boston to advance to the NBA finals
-Gary Payton II, had no playoff experience and then was a key rotation player for the Warriors in 2022
-Alex Caruso, same thing for the Lakers in 2020
-Kevon Looney, same thing for the Warriors in 2018

Bryn Forbes was a key rotation player for the Bucks in 2021. Markieff Morris was a key rotation player for the Lakers in 2020. Hauser is just as good as them, imo (if not better).

Oh and that trade package you came up with (Hauser, Walsh, a deep bench guy and picks) is only like $6 mil in salary matching - you can't get anybody good with that package..you mine as well just use the Grant Williams TPE, and that way you can keep Hauser..but for that amount of money, there's not really any wings who are better than Hauser...maybe Saddiq Bey, who could perhaps be a somewhat realistic possibility..but trading Hauser for Bey wouldn't really make sense - too much of a lateral move.

Trading Hauser for Kispert would also be too much of a lateral move. They're basically clones of each other. Hauser is a little taller but Kispert might be a little bit better overall. Even if you think Kispert is slightly better, is it really worth it to make the move for such a small upgrade? Especially when Hauser knows our systems, schemes, he knows our sets, he has 3 years building familiarity/chemistry on the court and off with our guys..

You also keep saying that Hauser isn't dependable in the playoffs. Well, at least Hauser has played in the playoffs and hit some **** in the playoffs. Kispert has zero playoff experience.

And the wizards likely are not looking to move Kispert. He's a good player, on a team friendly rookie deal, still only 24 yrs old so hasn't even hit his prime yet. And he's basically the Wizards only good shooter. I can see the Wizards trading someone like Muscala, Gallo, Tyus Jones, Delon Wright, maybe Gafford (but probably not him, unless someone floors WAS with an offer but why would someone offer a ton for Gafford to be their backup center?)..I'm sure they'd be open to dealing Johnny Davis too..but I'd be very surprised if they trade Kispert..

[brackdan70]

Any interest in Nic Claxton? Great versatile defender. Would be a great third big for us

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Why not?


Like who? What player can we realistically acquire via trade who would come off the bench for us and would be an upgrade over Hauser (one of the best 3&D bench players in the league right now) who would be such a big upgrade over Hauser that it justifies trading away a 1st round pick?

And who are we giving away in the deal to match salaries?

Because Hauser is not a dependable road scorer, especially in the Playoffs.
They need a scorer/wing type better.

What am I Nostradamus?
There will be someone available.
It will be costly.
Wish it was Olynyk.
Oh well...

just thought of something: Walsh, Hauser, picks and choose from deep bench guys for?

Hauser hasn't really had a chance to prove himself in the playoffs yet. He played well vs Atlanta in limited minutes. But then after that didn't get playing time - maybe if Joe put him in the game more vs Miami, we would have won that series.

But Joe instead of played Grant (probably just because Grant had more NBA experience and more playoff experience) but Grant is gone now, so it's Hauser's turn.

-Christian Braun had no playoff experience before last season, but then he was a solid contributor in the Nuggets rotation when they won the title
-Duncan Robinson, same thing - had no playoff experience, then was starting for the Heat team that beat Boston to advance to the NBA finals
-Gary Payton II, had no playoff experience and then was a key rotation player for the Warriors in 2022
-Alex Caruso, same thing for the Lakers in 2020
-Kevon Looney, same thing for the Warriors in 2018

Bryn Forbes was a key rotation player for the Bucks in 2021. Markieff Morris was a key rotation player for the Lakers in 2020. Hauser is just as good as them, imo (if not better).

Oh and that trade package you came up with (Hauser, Walsh, a deep bench guy and picks) is only like $6 mil in salary matching - you can't get anybody good with that package..you mine as well just use the Grant Williams TPE, and that way you can keep Hauser..but for that amount of money, there's not really any wings who are better than Hauser...maybe Saddiq Bey, who could perhaps be a somewhat realistic possibility..

Bey actually makes some sense, but I thought he was in decline?
But Bey, okay.
I still feel through some Cap Magic, they are going to get somebody...

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Any interest in Nic Claxton? Great versatile defender. Would be a great third big for us

Can they acquire him under the current restrictive Cap?

[165bows]

Any interest in Nic Claxton? Great versatile defender. Would be a great third big for us

I think the money would be tough but that type of player would be a great fit. Someone who can play C on offense but guard a bunch of different spots on D.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Celtics need two things:

Playoff Big.
Home/Away Playoff Scorer

[Dogen]

Corey Kispert

Choose any two of Kornet, Svi, Lamar, Brissett, Banton. Season with future assets.

Kispert is fun to watch, plays hard. Would be a nice add here if Washington wants to move on but I'm not sure why they'd give up on him yet. Not exactly a proven playoff performer tho.

[Shakey Deal]

Going over all players fitting into the Grant TPE, these are the ones that could be available and worth the extra tax:

Likely requiring at least one 1st-round pick:

Saddiq Bey (ATL) - $4,556,983:
Given Jalen Johnson's emergence, Bey may be considered redundant for Hawks.

Lonnie Walker (BRK) - $2,019,706:
If the Nets realise that they should be sellers, they could get a 1st out of Walker's expiring contract.

Corey Kispert (WAS) - $3,722,040, $5,705,887:
It's doubtful the Wizards would trade a part of their young core, but could do it for more draft picks.

Nick Richards (CHA) - $5,000,000, $5,000,000, $5,000,000:
My favorite option. A real C, capable of putting a body on players like Embiid, Adebayo, and Jokic, on a bargain 3-year contract. Probably will cost only a late 1st.

Isaiah Jackson (IND) - $2,696,280, $4,435,381:
Unlikely to be available, but given the presence of Turner, Toppin, and Jalen Smith, the Pacers might consider trading him for the right price.

Santi Aldama (MEM) - $2,194,200, $3,960,531:
With Clark's return and assuming Memphis shifts focus from this season, Aldama might fall out of the rotation behind JJJ, Tillman, Biyombo, and Clark.

Precious Achiuwa (TOR) - $4,379,527:
Raptors should be sellers, so from their standpoint it's basically Achiuwa's bird rights for a 1st.

Other options, likely to cost some 2nds:
Day'Ron Sharpe (BRK) - $2,210,040, $3,989,122
Andre Drummond (CHI) - $3,360,000
Torrey Craig (CHI) - $2,528,233, $2,845,342
Dean Wade (CLE) - $5,709,877, $6,166,667, $6,623,456
Dwight Powell (DAL) - $4,000,000, $4,000,000, $4,000,000
Jordan Nwora (IND) - $3,000,000
John Konchar (MEM) - $2,400,000, $6,165,000, $6,165,000, $6,165,000
Xavier Tillman (MEM) - $1,930,681
Naji Marshall (NOP) - $1,930,681
Aaron Wiggins (OKC) - $1,836,096, $1,988,598
Kenrich Williams (OKC) - $6,175,000, $6,669,000, $7,163,000, $7,163,000
Julian Champagnie (SAS) - $3,000,000, $3,000,000 $3,000,000 $3,000,000
Simone Fontecchio (UTA) - $3,044,872

[KillahGhostface]

Celtics need two things:

Playoff Big.
Home/Away Playoff Scorer

They don’t need either of those things. The bench after your top two reserves don’t matter after the first round. Al is clearly going to play a lot in the playoffs, and Pritchard looks like he can be the backup ball handler. Bench scoring doesn’t matter when you always have at least two good scoring options on the court.


If the right deal comes along, sure. But the Celtics don’t need anything, they’re one of the more uniquely built teams we’ve ever seen, TBH.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Celtics need two things:

Playoff Big.
Home/Away Playoff Scorer

They don’t need either of those things. The bench after your top two reserves don’t matter after the first round. Al is clearly going to play a lot in the playoffs, and Pritchard looks like he can be the backup ball handler. Bench scoring doesn’t matter when you always have at least two good scoring options on the court.


If the right deal comes along, sure. But the Celtics don’t need anything, they’re one of the more uniquely built teams we’ve ever seen, TBH.

What about a compromise, one of the above things Playoff Scorer - just to be on the safe side and that the team being so sui generis
will actually work against clubs like GS, OKC, Minnesota - I definitely think I want more ammunition against Minny.

[Hal14]

Just give me Konchar. Upgrade from Svi to him.

Monitor the buyout market to see if a big like Drummond or Olynyk (ideally Olynyk, of course) shakes loose and call it a day.

Let's get this banner, ya'll.

Some people have said Konchar is kind of like a poor man's D-White. This play is an example of that - looks very D-white-esque on this play..

Read on Twitter

This team doesn't *need* anything. But man, if you add Konchar and Olynyk to this team (and all we gave up is someone like Svi and maybe some 2nd rounders) - forget about it..we winning it.

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Just give me Konchar. Upgrade from Svi to him.

Monitor the buyout market to see if a big like Drummond or Olynyk (ideally Olynyk, of course) shakes loose and call it a day.

Let's get this banner, ya'll.

Some people have said Konchar is kind of like a poor man's D-White. This play is an example of that - looks very D-white-esque on this play..

Read on Twitter

This team doesn't *need* anything. But man, if you add Konchar and Olynyk to this team - forget about it..we winning it.

Exactly Hal, it's GFIN Turbocharged.
So, don't hesitate and do it.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Going over all players fitting into the Grant TPE, these are the ones that could be available and worth the extra tax:

Likely requiring at least one 1st-round pick:

Saddiq Bey (ATL) - $4,556,983:
Given Jalen Johnson's emergence, Bey may be considered redundant for Hawks.

Atlanta didn't even have to give up a first to get Bey at the deadline last year. He's now a year older which means he's a year closer to free agency and getting paid/leaving. He has also not gotten any better in his 4 years in the league so it's hard to see much untapped potential left. Atlanta is not exactly negotiating from a position of strength considering how their season is going either. I'm not sure why he would cost the Celtics (or any other team) a first.

[BK_2020]

Bey plays worse defense than Hauser and is only an average 3p shooter.

[Hal14]

Any interest in Nic Claxton? Great versatile defender. Would be a great third big for us

I'm sure every team in the league would want Nic Claxton. He's an all-NBA caliber defender. Limited on offense but so are guys like Time Lord, Clint Capela, Mitchell Robinson and Rudy Gobert. Claxton basically does what those guys do on offense - set screens, catch lobs, finish out of dunker's spot, run the floor in transition, get put-backs..Claxton has even showed some development lately with his face up game, taking his man off the dribble from elbows and high post/mid post areas.

He's the nets 2nd best player though, after Bridges. And he's only 24, on a team-friendly deal. He's not going anywhere, unless it's in a package where the nets are getting a legit star (top 25 type of player) in return..so we're not getting Claxton..

[JaMarco]

Bey plays worse defense than Hauser and is only an average 3p shooter.

It's a grass is greener narrative. Hauser is currently in a slump so it's easy for the critics to chirp about anyone else being a so much better alternative. No one was criticizing Hauser when he was lighting it up. It'll blow over when he starts hitting shots again.

[Darth Celtic]

I think we can assume taking on salary won't happen in any way until as late as possible. So a trade won't happen until the deadline day, and a signing for 15 the spot won't happen until March. Why? Money. Tax penalty is for money paid, so you sign a min contract of two million but play a month of it, you pay like 300k actual and that's the taxable money

[celtxman]

Bey plays worse defense than Hauser and is only an average 3p shooter.

It's a grass is greener narrative. Hauser is currently in a slump so it's easy for the critics to chirp about anyone else being a so much alternative. No one was criticizing Hauser when he was lighting it up. It'll blow over when he starts hitting shots again.

I want Hauser to work out as much as anyone. I don't totally trust him. It isn't that he's in a slump it's that he shot 33% in the playoffs and it's the same for on the road this year. That's tough when Hauser and Pritchard are your only 3 point bench scorers.
I'm hoping they sign Olynyk in a buyout and keep using Hauser the way they are now. That would hedge against Hauser going cold.

[ConstableGeneva]

It's kinda silly to criticize Hauser for shooting just 33% in the playoffs when he only took 24 attempts. Had he made one more, it's 37.5%. Two more and it's 41.7%. Will we still talking about him not being a reliable shooter then?

He went 2/8 in the 7-game series that we lost to Miami. That's a little over one three per game. Guys who shot worse than him and took more 3s than him -- Brogdon (3/18), Brown (7/43), Tatum (11/47). Horford not too far off with his 8/29.

Hauser making two less threes than his norm won't make or break our postseason. If it does, then we've totally lost the plot.