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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#201 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:16 pm

hey BJJ, what do you think about the current rumors showing that Dak and Dallas are about to reach an agreement?

The tweets I posted ignored.
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#203 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:23 pm

Makes me totally sick to my stomach. Looks like the Cowboys want to continue down a losing path. To me it means I will have to brace myself for another 5 years of failure and coming up short, with no chance of getting to a Super Bowl. If the Cowboys take this route, it will come back to haunt them in very due time.
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#204 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:26 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:Makes me totally sick to my stomach. Looks like the Cowboys want to continue down a losing path. To me it means I will have to brace myself for another 5 years of failure and coming up short, with no chance of getting to a Super Bowl.

Yeah I know.

Hey maybe you should consider being a Chiefs fan, like full-time...ya know?

Mahomes is super-sick
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#205 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:34 pm

The Cowboys have played the 4th easiest schedule.

Only Atlanta, Miami, and New Orleans have had an easier SOS.
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Post#206 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:41 pm

Lets see what happens. Just remember, the person who gets to laugh last, will get to laugh the loudest. Good luck getting more pieces and depth on defense. Good luck getting a good RB and another much needed O-lineman. Once Parsons, Lamb get theirs and suck bag Dak gets his 60 mill a year, there won't be hardly anything left on improving from what we are now. The schedule next year will be much tougher and I fully expect this team will regress moving forward.
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#207 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:43 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:The Cowboys have played the 4th easiest schedule.

Only Atlanta, Miami, and New Orleans have had an easier SOS.


Right, and the 3 worst offenses in the league....Panthers, Jets, Giants (2x)

30,31,32

That is 4 games that the defense had it as easy as possible.
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#208 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:45 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:Lets see what happens. Just remember, the person who gets to laugh last, will get to laugh the loudest. Good luck getting more pieces and depth on defense. Good luck getting a good RB and another much needed O-lineman. Once Parsons, Lamb get theirs and suck bag Dak gets his 60 mill a year, there won't be hardly anything left on improving from what we are now. The schedule next year will be much tougher and I fully expect this team will regress moving forward.


RB is a position we can stick to rookie pay and also a position that can come out of the gate in elite form.

And Steele has the most abusive contract on this team
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#209 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Dec 28, 2023 6:50 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:The Cowboys have played the 4th easiest schedule.

Only Atlanta, Miami, and New Orleans have had an easier SOS.


Right, and the 3 worst offenses in the league....Panthers, Jets, Giants (2x)

30,31,32

That is 4 games that the defense had it as easy as possible.

Outside of SF & Buffalo, Dak hasn't exactly faced a murderers row either. Fwiw, those two games were his lowest yardage output for the season.

I think it's completely fair to say that the team as a whole has greatly benefited from it. Including Dak. :wink:
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#210 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:12 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:The Cowboys have played the 4th easiest schedule.

Only Atlanta, Miami, and New Orleans have had an easier SOS.


Right, and the 3 worst offenses in the league....Panthers, Jets, Giants (2x)

30,31,32

That is 4 games that the defense had it as easy as possible.

Outside of SF & Buffalo, Dak hasn't exactly faced a murderers row either. Fwiw, those two games were his lowest yardage output for the season.

I think it's completely fair to say that the team as a whole has greatly benefited from it. Including Dak. :wink:

Sure Dak has benefited from an easy schedule but the defense has benefited more than the offense. I'll agree it's somewhat a moot point but when I said "the offense is putting up numbers, it's the defense that needs to improve" I get the schedule thrown at me as though Dak's TDs are the only thing that got any benefits.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#211 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:14 pm

And if the Ravens win a ring this season, it won't be because Lamar is that much better than Dak....it will be on the back of the elite Raven defense.
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#212 » by Mr B » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:16 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Okay well explain your views to NFL front offices El Turco, and then tell them that you hope they don't do their own finances that way and show them your YouTube vids.

I'm not the one who does it, I'm just telling you how it's going to be. Dak is going to be resigned and the contract will be backloaded. EXACTLY like his current contract.

Assuming we lose 2nd round or earlier, I think McCarthy will be gone and a new system will be brought in.

You honestly might be right in the end. Dak will more than likely get the extension. There is an outside chance though that the Cowboys find a way to move on.

So if you’re right and he does get resigned (along with Lamb and Parsons) what would you do next? What would you do to make the team better? What positions are you targeting in the draft? Just curious.

We need a better defense. Im sorry but our offense and QB put up points. We have the #2 scorong offense in the NFL. Our QB has thrown more TDs than any other QB. Now we need a defense that can hold teams low. But Id probably go BPA, the same strategy most teams do. If there is an elite RB at pur spot go with it.

It sure AF beats drafting a QB year after year until we finally find one that throws even MORE TDs than this.

I mean the Ravens just gave Lamar Jackson the biggest contract ever. How does that effect what are they targeting?

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I understand that you think Dak is the man and that the offense is more than fine. I’m just curious on what you think of the rest of the team and where you think the weaknesses are (and how to fix them).

I agree with taking the best player available in the draft even if that player is a RB.

They NEED to find a way to stop the run though. Maxi was a bust this year but I have faith that he will improve in his 2nd season. He needs to get stronger. Getting Hankins back helps but this team would be better if Hankins was a backup.

Also they desperately need a consistent (and healthy) off ball LB. A really good sideline to sideline sure tackler.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#213 » by Mr B » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:20 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:And if the Ravens win a ring this season, it won't be because Lamar is that much better than Dak....it will be on the back of the elite Raven defense.

There is a chance that Lamar wins the MVP award and you think he would have nothing to do with winning a SB?
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#214 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:20 pm

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Mr B wrote:You honestly might be right in the end. Dak will more than likely get the extension. There is an outside chance though that the Cowboys find a way to move on.

So if you’re right and he does get resigned (along with Lamb and Parsons) what would you do next? What would you do to make the team better? What positions are you targeting in the draft? Just curious.

We need a better defense. Im sorry but our offense and QB put up points. We have the #2 scorong offense in the NFL. Our QB has thrown more TDs than any other QB. Now we need a defense that can hold teams low. But Id probably go BPA, the same strategy most teams do. If there is an elite RB at pur spot go with it.

It sure AF beats drafting a QB year after year until we finally find one that throws even MORE TDs than this.

I mean the Ravens just gave Lamar Jackson the biggest contract ever. How does that effect what are they targeting?

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I understand that you think Dak is the man and that the offense is more than fine. I’m just curious on what you think of the rest of the team and where you think the weaknesses are (and how to fix them).

I agree with taking the best player available in the draft even if that player is a RB.

They NEED to find a way to stop the run though. Maxi was a bust this year but I have faith that he will improve in his 2nd season. He needs to get stronger. Getting Hankins back helps but this team would be better if Hankins was a backup.

Also they desperately need a consistent (and healthy) off ball LB. A really good sideline to sideline sure tackler.


Are we on the same page here? lol

What I think we might have found out oddly enough is that Mazi wasn't even needed that badly. Osa Odighizuwa is actually a top DT , elite pass rushing DT, and Hankins is good run stopper. I think that they both made big strides this season. Mazi was kind of a wasted pick unfortunately. He adds depth I suppose but it isn't great depth. He is a downgrade in run support in comparison to Hankins.

And yes, we need better tackling from LB.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#215 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:22 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:And if the Ravens win a ring this season, it won't be because Lamar is that much better than Dak....it will be on the back of the elite Raven defense.

There is a chance that Lamar wins the MVP award and you think he would have nothing to do with winning a SB?

It is ALWAYS a team effort. But this is a good example of a strawman argument, as I never said at any time that "Lamar has NOTHING to do with it"

I said it "won't be because he is that much better than Dak"
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#216 » by El Turco » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:23 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Yeah now show their offense! Lol

Eagles are better on Offense, honestly didn't know their defense was that bad wow


yeah most of those are better at offense


has any of these arguments ever had validity? feels like throw everything out there and lets see if anything sticks :lol:


No, we have faced worse offenses than defenses. The Giants and Jets and Panthers are literally the 3 worst offenses in the entire NFL and we've played all three....Giants 2x

Take the time to add them all up or something if you want...but it's you having trouble finding anything to stick. I would make an analogy but you know...lol


Yeah wrong yet again, average of defenses Dallas faced is worse than the average of offenses Dallas faced, you pulled it out off your ass probably because you thought Eagles still has a good defense, or anyone else in NFC east.

Once again this is a public information, you can look it up beforehand to avoid the embarrassment, but your ability to look things up seems to be only rivaled by ability to understand literary devices. Oh lookie here another analogy you missed :lol: :lol:
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#217 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:25 pm

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yeah most of those are better at offense


has any of these arguments ever had validity? feels like throw everything out there and lets see if anything sticks :lol:


No, we have faced worse offenses than defenses. The Giants and Jets and Panthers are literally the 3 worst offenses in the entire NFL and we've played all three....Giants 2x

Take the time to add them all up or something if you want...but it's you having trouble finding anything to stick. I would make an analogy but you know...lol


Yeah wrong yet again, average of defenses Dallas faced is worse than the average of offenses Dallas faced, you pulled it out off your ass probably because you thought Eagles still has a good defense, or anyone else in NFC east.

Once again this is a public information, you can look it up beforehand to avoid the embarrassment, but your ability to look things up seems to be only rivaled by ability to understand literary devices. Oh lookie here another analogy you missed :lol: :lol:

Okay where is this info?

If I was wrong I'll own up, but it wasn't wrong a few weeks back I know that.

Maybe wrong now because the Philly defense plunged off the map
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#218 » by El Turco » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:30 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:Makes me totally sick to my stomach. Looks like the Cowboys want to continue down a losing path. To me it means I will have to brace myself for another 5 years of failure and coming up short, with no chance of getting to a Super Bowl. If the Cowboys take this route, it will come back to haunt them in very due time.


this was created for Cowboys fans :)

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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#219 » by Micah Prescott » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:30 pm

Carolina Panthers 15.7
New York Jets 15.4
New York Giants 14.3
New England Patriots 14.1

These are the 4 lowest scoring offenses in the NFL....Dallas has played all of them and Giants twice

there is no way I am wrong
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#220 » by El Turco » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:35 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Carolina Panthers 15.7
New York Jets 15.4
New York Giants 14.3
New England Patriots 14.1

These are the 4 lowest scoring offenses in the NFL....Dallas has played all of them and Giants twice

there is no way I am wrong


You also played Eagles twice, Commanders, Chargers etc. Scoring offense will never be accurate because of the defensive contributions, or the opposite. Just find a stat that doesnt involve defensive contributions in offense, and take the average. Maybe I'll do it again when I am done with work in few hours, if I care about it by then.

Even you can see that it is silly to pick 4 games out 15 to make this point :lol:
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