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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#261 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:27 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Hell the Broncos won a SB with Peyton throwing 0 TDs and 1 INT

The idea that a defense can't hold with a poor offense is BS

So then you admit that we need a 1986 Bears defense to win a Super bowl as long a dumb Dak is our QB? I mean its not like Manning had to do much in this game except not lose it. Cam Newton only had 64 yards passing in that game, also had 1 int and got sacked 6 times. :lol: :lol:


We need more help at defense than we do at offense.
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#262 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:27 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:So how long is a defense suppose to hold up when the offense doesn't even get a 1st down in 9 straight possessions?


A true elite defense would hold the entire game. Teams have won SBs on defense before. And teams win games all the time without a QB throwing a single TD.


Ok so let me get this straight

Your issue is the cowboys don’t have a 2000 ravens, 2015 broncos, 2002 bucs, 2013 Seahawks.

So in your estimation dak is Trent dilfer, Brad Johnson, no neck Peyton manning. He needs an all time defense.

So it’s the cowboys defense fault for not being a top 10 defense all time?

Thank you. You beat me in saying this.
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Post#263 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:31 pm

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Dak is legit...it's the defense that needs to step up. No that doesn't mean that we need a legendary Defense with Ray Lewis. It means we need what the Ravens or Browns or SF have now.
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#264 » by last stand » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:31 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:This is a strawman...I never said that Dallas should have the greatest defense in the history of defenses. :lol:

I'm saying our defense is worse than our offense.

and it is


It’s not a strawman when you specifically used the 2015 broncos as your argument as to a defense not needing its offense to be successful

You brought the broncos into this not me lol

And to you that means I think Dallas should have the 2015 Broncos defense? :lol:

All you're doing is creating one strawman after another.

"OH....SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU LOST BECAUSE LAWRENCE TAYLOR AND CHARLES WOODSON AREN'T ON THE DEFENSE!!!???"


lol, you’re being dense

You’re explanation for a defense being able to hold when and offense is awful is that the broncos were able to do it

A top 10 defense all time

So my response is the issue with the cowboys is they aren’t a top 10 defense all time?

You’re the one who keeps alleviating offensive responsibilities

I believe even you yourself said the difference between the ravens and cowboys against the niners was baltimores 5 INTs.

What about the cowboys offense throwing 3 INTs? Why is that swept under the rug. Looks like the niners defense benefitted from what you demand from the cowboys. Who’s at fault for that?

So assuming that’s you know unrealistic to expect a top 10 defense all time, then it’s reasonable to assume the offense holds culpability in their road losses

It’s also reasonable to assume that playing bad offenses will also help the cowboys offense

Considering you’ve repeatedly said that’s the only reason the defense has looked good

I see you repeatedly admonish BJJ for trashing dak. Because it’s ridiculous a cowboy fan doesn’t defend their QB. But you’re on here bashing a whole unit of your team based on them not being good enough to protect dak
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#265 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:32 pm

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Post#266 » by last stand » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:32 pm

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Dak is legit...it's the defense that needs to step up. No that doesn't mean that we need a legendary Defense with Ray Lewis. It means we need what the Ravens or Browns or SF have now.


Does that have anything to do with the schedule they’ve played? Or is that only for the defense?
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Post#267 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:33 pm

You know, stats aren't everything. But when the QB leads in not only regular NFL stats but also dominates PFF, that is a pretty decent sign that HE isn't the problem.
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Post#268 » by last stand » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:35 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:You know, stats aren't everything. But when the QB leads in not only regular NFL stats but also dominates PFF, that is a pretty decent sign that HE isn't the problem.


PFF is a statistical website lol

So Dallas’s opponents would have an effect on its…you know…stats
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Post#269 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:35 pm

last stand wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:
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Dak is legit...it's the defense that needs to step up. No that doesn't mean that we need a legendary Defense with Ray Lewis. It means we need what the Ravens or Browns or SF have now.


Does that have anything to do with the schedule they’ve played? Or is that only for the defense?


PFF grades play by play and takes everything into account, so supposedly schedule is removed from that.
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Post#270 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:36 pm

last stand wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:You know, stats aren't everything. But when the QB leads in not only regular NFL stats but also dominates PFF, that is a pretty decent sign that HE isn't the problem.


PFF is a statistical website lol

So Dallas’s opponents would have an effect on its…you know…stats


Not on the PFF stats

They grade every single snap
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#271 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:36 pm

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A true elite defense would hold the entire game. Teams have won SBs on defense before. And teams win games all the time without a QB throwing a single TD.


Ok so let me get this straight

Your issue is the cowboys don’t have a 2000 ravens, 2015 broncos, 2002 bucs, 2013 Seahawks.

So in your estimation dak is Trent dilfer, Brad Johnson, no neck Peyton manning. He needs an all time defense.

So it’s the cowboys defense fault for not being a top 10 defense all time?

This is a strawman...I never said that Dallas should have the greatest defense in the history of defenses. :lol:

I'm saying our defense is worse than our offense.

and it is

That wasn't the case the first 5-6 games of the year till we became a MASH unit before we got our azzes handed to us by the 49ers. We were carrying the team during that span outside the Arizona game when nobody showed up in that one. The whole league and every sports pundit on air was incredibly impressed with our defense and couldn't talk about it enough. it also allowed Dak to pad his stats against weaklings like he does every year till the elites show up and the lights start getting bright.
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Post#272 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:37 pm

So you're saying that the QB who dominates stats is always the one with the easiest schedule?

Is that what you're saying?


See I can strawman too lol
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Post#273 » by last stand » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:38 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:You know, stats aren't everything. But when the QB leads in not only regular NFL stats but also dominates PFF, that is a pretty decent sign that HE isn't the problem.


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Do you think that has any effect
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#274 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:38 pm

last stand wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:You know, stats aren't everything. But when the QB leads in not only regular NFL stats but also dominates PFF, that is a pretty decent sign that HE isn't the problem.


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Do you think that has any effect


On wins and losses, yes

On PFF rankings? Not so much
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Post#275 » by last stand » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:40 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:So you're saying that the QB who dominates stats is always the one with the easiest schedule?

Is that what you're saying?


See I can strawman too lol


No you don’t strawman very well

You also don’t defend dak very well either

You keep calling strawman whenever your own claims are thrown back at you. Does that not you know, concern you?
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#276 » by last stand » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:42 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
last stand wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:You know, stats aren't everything. But when the QB leads in not only regular NFL stats but also dominates PFF, that is a pretty decent sign that HE isn't the problem.


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Do you think that has any effect


On wins and losses, yes

On PFF rankings? Not so much


So you don’t think daks competition has influenced his statistical output?

So who they play only effects the defensive performance

But dak is just great without context
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#277 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:44 pm

Dallas should try to create a historically great defense TBH

If our game plan is to search out and find the next Mahomes or Brady we are going to be searching FOREVER.
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Re: Dak: 4 years, $160m 

Post#278 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:44 pm

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It’s not a strawman when you specifically used the 2015 broncos as your argument as to a defense not needing its offense to be successful

You brought the broncos into this not me lol

And to you that means I think Dallas should have the 2015 Broncos defense? :lol:

All you're doing is creating one strawman after another.

"OH....SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU LOST BECAUSE LAWRENCE TAYLOR AND CHARLES WOODSON AREN'T ON THE DEFENSE!!!???"


lol, you’re being dense

You’re explanation for a defense being able to hold when and offense is awful is that the broncos were able to do it

A top 10 defense all time

So my response is the issue with the cowboys is they aren’t a top 10 defense all time?

You’re the one who keeps alleviating offensive responsibilities

I believe even you yourself said the difference between the ravens and cowboys against the niners was baltimores 5 INTs.

What about the cowboys offense throwing 3 INTs? Why is that swept under the rug. Looks like the niners defense benefitted from what you demand from the cowboys. Who’s at fault for that?
That's what he does when he doesn't have an answer to defend Dak. Divert to something else that makes him look good.
Its been that way in the Cowboy forum for 3 years now. Dak can do no wrong. Glad all the other posters in the general can see for themselves.
I've posted 2 or 3 times this year that Micah and Dak have the same last name. Surprised no one has picked up on it. I believe there might be something more to this this. That is one of the 2 questions he has never answered or responded to. just can't but wonder with his unhealthy obsession with Dak.

So assuming that’s you know unrealistic to expect a top 10 defense all time, then it’s reasonable to assume the offense holds culpability in their road losses

It’s also reasonable to assume that playing bad offenses will also help the cowboys offense

Considering you’ve repeatedly said that’s the only reason the defense has looked good

I see you repeatedly admonish BJJ for trashing dak. Because it’s ridiculous a cowboy fan doesn’t defend their QB. But you’re on here bashing a whole unit of your team based on them not being good enough to protect dak
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#279 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:45 pm

last stand wrote:
Micah Prescott wrote:
last stand wrote:
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Do you think that has any effect


On wins and losses, yes

On PFF rankings? Not so much


So you don’t think daks competition has influenced his statistical output?

So who they play only effects the defensive performance

But dak is just great without context


PFF tries to remove that. They grade play by play and remove the result of the play. "Did Dak throw it where it needs to be?" regardless if it was caught or not or who is defending it.
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Re: Dak Prescott thread 

Post#280 » by Micah Prescott » Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:49 pm

Strength of schedule would never be enough to boost a bad QB all the way to the top of the charts anyway.

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