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What is Anthony Black's ceiling? I know another AB thread

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Post#61 » by eyriq » Fri Dec 29, 2023 2:49 am

basketballRob wrote:Black in 3rd in rookie EPM behind Chet and Lively.

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Post#62 » by Mad Guru » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:35 am

I'm still holding out hope for Jeryl Sasser
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Post#63 » by KillMonger » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:36 am

the only thing i wish i was seeing now, and maybe we'll see soon is AB going more downhill....one way to do that is him in the pick and roll....we haven't seen it much and if i recall correctly he was pretty good in P&R in college....i'm guessing he just hasn't earned the trust of the coaching staff just yet
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Post#64 » by Skin » Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:49 am

basketballRob wrote:Going into Black's 3rd season, he'll be 6 months younger than Penny in his rookie season and has a chance to be better than him.

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Post#65 » by pepe1991 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:40 am

Hot takes: this forum creates "haters" mostly as reaction to outrageous takes by some, about young players.

Once you get yourself hooked into this mess of idiotic arguments, you become tool. Been part of it for way to often, for way to long in past. And even if you a right, it still means nothing, because nobody will care, and if you are wrong, there will always be that one person to remind you that he was right about it ( once in 5000 dumb takes).

So yea.... Why stop at 25 ppg? Make it 45. New Wilt!





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Post#66 » by eyriq » Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:34 pm

The 3 top comps looking at college stats are:

Bruce Brown (2017)
Kemba Walker (2010)
SGA (2018)

Some mix of them would be an amazing NBA player.
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Post#67 » by JoshuaPotter » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:35 pm

eyriq wrote:The 3 top comps looking at college stats are:

Bruce Brown (2017)
Kemba Walker (2010)
SGA (2018)

Some mix of them would be an amazing NBA player.


I guess i'd settle for that.
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Post#68 » by Bakomagic » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:50 pm

Mad Guru wrote:I'm still holding out hope for Jeryl Sasser



Don’t give up on Reece Gaines bro!
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Post#69 » by ibraheim718 » Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:55 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Hot takes: this forum creates "haters" mostly as reaction to outrageous takes by some, about young players.

Once you get yourself hooked into this mess of idiotic arguments, you become tool. Been part of it for way to often, for way to long in past. And even if you a right, it still means nothing, because nobody will care, and if you are wrong, there will always be that one person to remind you that he was right about it ( once in 5000 dumb takes).

So yea.... Why stop at 25 ppg? Make it 45. New Wilt!





Now i can go back to work with little motivation to hit cardio later

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You weren't embarrassed writing this?

But it makes sense in your case how a person can self-sabotage themselves.. for instance the fans were stoked on Jalen Suggs and they voiced it.. you took the pleasure to trash the guy at every turn. So now your stuck having to hate the dude even if he wins an MVP. Instead.. and this is a lesson from a much older person.. admitting you were wrong and that you were happy to be proven wrong because the team you root for will prosper. There.. no more watching games of your favorite team and hoping one of their players sucks so you can feel validated.
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Post#70 » by HotelVitale » Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:51 am

thelead wrote:
Mad Guru wrote:He needs to get to league average from three otherwise his ceiling isn't that high.


As a heads up, league average is .365. AB is at .366. So technically, he’s already above league average. But we can call it AT league average… as a rookie. Not bad for a 19 year old ‘that can’t shoot’.


Yeah but he barely shoots. To a pretty drastic degree. Looks like he’s in the bottom like 2-3% of guards at 3pt shooting volume, with pretty much only a bunch of non shooting centers beneath him. Not saying that to condemn him but it’s one thing to shoot an average percentage and another to shoot that percentage on an average volume of shots.
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Post#71 » by drsd » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:13 am

Mad Guru wrote:I'm still holding out hope for Jeryl Sasser


Carter-Williams is still available, right?
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Post#72 » by basketballRob » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:17 am

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Mad Guru wrote:I'm still holding out hope for Jeryl Sasser


Carter-Williams is still available, right?
It's pretty obvious that with ABs work ethic, he's going to be a very good 3-pt shooter.

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Post#73 » by Bergmaniac » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:38 am

HotelVitale wrote:
thelead wrote:
Mad Guru wrote:He needs to get to league average from three otherwise his ceiling isn't that high.


As a heads up, league average is .365. AB is at .366. So technically, he’s already above league average. But we can call it AT league average… as a rookie. Not bad for a 19 year old ‘that can’t shoot’.


Yeah but he barely shoots. To a pretty drastic degree. Looks like he’s in the bottom like 2-3% of guards at 3pt shooting volume, with pretty much only a bunch of non shooting centers beneath him. Not saying that to condemn him but it’s one thing to shoot an average percentage and another to shoot that percentage on an average volume of shots.

Exactly. He never takes 3s off the dribble, he only shoots in catch and shoot situations when he is wide open. In 28 games he has shot 3 pull-up threes in total and only 2 of his 3 point attempts had not been wide open. So I wouldn't call him a league average shooter yet.
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Post#74 » by basketballRob » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:56 am

Bergmaniac wrote:
HotelVitale wrote:
thelead wrote:
As a heads up, league average is .365. AB is at .366. So technically, he’s already above league average. But we can call it AT league average… as a rookie. Not bad for a 19 year old ‘that can’t shoot’.


Yeah but he barely shoots. To a pretty drastic degree. Looks like he’s in the bottom like 2-3% of guards at 3pt shooting volume, with pretty much only a bunch of non shooting centers beneath him. Not saying that to condemn him but it’s one thing to shoot an average percentage and another to shoot that percentage on an average volume of shots.

Exactly. He never takes 3s off the dribble, he only shoots in catch and shoot situations when he is wide open. In 28 games he has shot 3 pull-up threes in total and only 2 of his 3 point attempts had not been wide open. So I wouldn't call him a league average shooter yet.
That's hilarious. It just seems like you're searching for a reason not to give him credit.

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Post#75 » by eyriq » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:18 am

basketballRob wrote:
Bergmaniac wrote:
HotelVitale wrote:
Yeah but he barely shoots. To a pretty drastic degree. Looks like he’s in the bottom like 2-3% of guards at 3pt shooting volume, with pretty much only a bunch of non shooting centers beneath him. Not saying that to condemn him but it’s one thing to shoot an average percentage and another to shoot that percentage on an average volume of shots.

Exactly. He never takes 3s off the dribble, he only shoots in catch and shoot situations when he is wide open. In 28 games he has shot 3 pull-up threes in total and only 2 of his 3 point attempts had not been wide open. So I wouldn't call him a league average shooter yet.
That's hilarious. It just seems like you're searching for a reason not to give him credit.

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Post#76 » by Skybox » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:21 am

I like him, but it’s a reach to call him a shooter. I only recall him slowly launching a few when no one is within 10 feet (not exaggerating)…I’m glad he makes those but that doesn’t necessarily translate to “outside scoring threat”. His release is super slow. He certainly might improve but there’s not many NBA players that can’t put up efficient shooting videos in an empty gym. They’re basically long free throws…I don’t think they’re even jumpers…that won’t work with any kind of pressure.

Just being realistic based on evidence to date
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Post#77 » by basketballRob » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:49 am

Skybox wrote:I like him, but it’s a reach to call him a shooter. I only recall him slowly launching a few when no one is within 10 feet (not exaggerating)…I’m glad he makes those but that doesn’t necessarily translate to “outside scoring threat”. His release is super slow. He certainly might improve but there’s not many NBA players that can’t put up efficient shooting videos in an empty gym. They’re basically long free throws…I don’t think they’re even jumpers…that won’t work with any kind of pressure.

Just being realistic based on evidence to date
Haliburton has the same release.

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Post#78 » by Knightro » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:14 am

basketballRob wrote:Haliburton has the same release.


You gotta cut this out man :lol:
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Post#79 » by SOUL » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:15 am

Rob's homerism exists so pepe can fuel his hate for young players :lol:, the world is not right without either existing
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Post#80 » by ogmagicfan » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:20 am

SOUL wrote:Rob's homerism exists so pepe can fuel his hate for young players :lol:, the world is not right without either existing


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