bubonicphoniks wrote:TheNetsFan wrote:bubonicphoniks wrote:Ill keep saying it. Dinwiddie has to go.
100%. We can't get anything for him and don't have enough ball handlers though. Maybe the corpse of Chris Paul is available.
Weve got to have g league guys who can get the ball up the court. Whatever gets this guy gone im for.
Yours are two opinions I value, but disagree with as to performance. I believe this team would be considerably stronger with a high scoring point guard, which Spencer is not. But that is because we have no superstar to make all things right. I otherwise concur with every analyst I've read which list him as a top thirty, starting caliber, point guard. And I fear that his $20M salary might be too expensive currently to keep as a sixth man. Following will be reasons I disagree with the urgency for moving him. But I think his expiring contract is the largest we have to trade match, and there are enough teams that could use him. So frankly I see the potential for such a move.
Tonight was a typical example of why I am confused by the disdain. He had our best plus/minus (+12) and ran an offense in which every starter but one was a significant plus. There is something to be said for a point who is a good floor general, with excellent assists, at a very low turnover rate. Similarly, 82 games.com list only him, and Cam J (2d) as starters with positive net on/off court numbers for the year. We lost this game because of our bench performance, led by DSJ who has also been a positive this year, but in extended minutes was a minus 21, with 5 points.
The seeming disgust for Spence, if obviously not by JV etal, but a few fans, is made more mystifying by the almost cult-like adoration for a fine young scorer, Cam T. He was a minus 14 tonight, and 82games has him the second worst of our six starters this year at a minus 10.6 on/off court per game for the year. Someone else has pointed out his tunnel vision and only 2 assists per. But NBA.com lists him as our worst defender, 454th of 517 players at 120.2. Don't take any advanced defensive stats as gospel though. Most creators admit they have "noise". (That's a cute statistical admission that there are screw ups.) But I mention it only because I haven't a better measure, and I think it accurate regarding at least our team. Having said all that, I like the kid for his scoring, and probable potential.
That's about it for my confusion when I read these game threads. Just one other thing I found interesting:
82 games lists our 5 man units by minutes played.
Number one @138.5 minutes with Spence, CamT, Mikal, CJ and Nic, Offense 1.04 Defense 1.30 @ minus 66.
Number 2 @113.8 minutes with Spence, Mikal, CJ, DFS, and Nic, Offense 1.22 Defense 1.16 @ plus 9
Number 3 @58.3 minutes with Spence, Mikal, CJ, DFS, and Sharpe, Offense 1.38 Defense .93 at plus 48