Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas

ShootingtheJ · Post #1161 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:00 am

Prez wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:
Prez wrote:Cam and Livingston or non-Portland 2nd for Delon Wright.

That doesn't come close to matching salaries.

The stupid trade machine on ESPN was broken for me so I just guessed

Idk man just get me a defensive guard off the bench that can start every now and then lol

Kris Dunn

Or find a deal with Pat and get both. Wright is a perfect fit too.

TroyD92 · Post #1162 » by **TroyD92** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 11:33 am

Marjon, Pat, Portis works for Bridges. Just saying lol. Could flip Bobby to somewhere like OKC for another pick maybe lol

ShootingtheJ · Post #1163 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:46 pm

TroyD92 wrote:Marjon, Pat, Portis works for Bridges. Just saying lol. Could flip Bobby to somewhere like OKC for another pick maybe lol

Why are the Nets doing this? They could get 3 or 4 1sts for him if they wanted to blow it up, but they have no motivation to blow it up, because they don't have there own pick

TroyD92 · Post #1164 » by **TroyD92** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:05 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:Marjon, Pat, Portis works for Bridges. Just saying lol. Could flip Bobby to somewhere like OKC for another pick maybe lol

Why are the Nets doing this? They could get 3 or 4 1sts for him if they wanted to blow it up, but they have no motivation to blow it up, because they don't have there own pick

I know i'm just wishing it into existence

raferfenix · Post #1165 » by **raferfenix** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:13 pm

How the Bucks and the league at large values MarJon (it only takes 1 team) is one of my biggest questions at the moment.

That and how we’d approach a trade considering the Klutch relationship we’ve been building where Rich Paul directs guys our way for developmental purposes despite falling further in the draft.

Here’s how Shaffty put it — I don’t remember the cringe tweet if anyone has a reminder there, and am not sure what’s going on with his Instagram use, but I believe it:

Marjon Beauchamp - I was all in on Marjon. After his first two summer league games this year I was ready to put him in the 2nd tier with Khris Middleton, then he sent that cringe ass tweet and put up two stinkers. Proving he’s more concerned about his image/how he looks then playing winning basketball.

He plays timidly, he listens to the haters, and spends too much time on instagram. He has the tools and skill to really be a good player. But I’m not sure he will ever be able to find his footing under the spotlight of the Bucks. If I was the Blazers or the Jazz or a team no one cares about I would be interested in stealing him, there is a path for him to become a 10-13 ppg player, I’m just not sure its on the Bucks.

https://buckssuck.substack.com/p/2024-bucks-trade-market-primer

RiotPunch · Post #1166 » by **RiotPunch** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:27 pm

Why are we quoting opinion pieces?

ETA: Good stuff, though, Shaffty.

pifhluk23 · Post #1167 » by **pifhluk23** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:01 pm

raferfenix wrote:How the Bucks and the league at large values MarJon (it only takes 1 team) is one of my biggest questions at the moment.

That and how we’d approach a trade considering the Klutch relationship we’ve been building where Rich Paul directs guys our way for developmental purposes despite falling further in the draft.

Here’s how Shaffty put it — I don’t remember the cringe tweet if anyone has a reminder there, and am not sure what’s going on with his Instagram use, but I believe it:

Marjon Beauchamp - I was all in on Marjon. After his first two summer league games this year I was ready to put him in the 2nd tier with Khris Middleton, then he sent that cringe ass tweet and put up two stinkers. Proving he’s more concerned about his image/how he looks then playing winning basketball.

He plays timidly, he listens to the haters, and spends too much time on instagram. He has the tools and skill to really be a good player. But I’m not sure he will ever be able to find his footing under the spotlight of the Bucks. If I was the Blazers or the Jazz or a team no one cares about I would be interested in stealing him, there is a path for him to become a 10-13 ppg player, I’m just not sure its on the Bucks.

https://buckssuck.substack.com/p/2024-bucks-trade-market-primer

On another board that I suggested a Bobby + AJ or AJJ + Por 2nd for Caruso & Drummond they told me it would have to be Marjon instead. I think he's valued more highly then those 2 other than a smart org like say Miami.

Only problem I have with trading Bobby is that Iso scoring is valuable in the playoffs and with Giannis & Dame out there Bobby will always have a 1 on 1 opportunity. BUT in a hypothetical Celtics series I'd much rather have a Caruso type.

Shaffty · Post #1168 » by **Shaffty** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:44 pm

TroyD92 wrote:Marjon, Pat, Portis works for Bridges. Just saying lol. Could flip Bobby to somewhere like OKC for another pick maybe lol

Bridges is basically untradeable because of his contract situation. Because he signed the QO he basically has a no trade clause because if he is traded he loses his bird rights/ability to be signed to a max.

He wont be traded because of this.

Shaffty · Post #1169 » by **Shaffty** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:47 pm

raferfenix wrote:How the Bucks and the league at large values MarJon (it only takes 1 team) is one of my biggest questions at the moment.

That and how we’d approach a trade considering the Klutch relationship we’ve been building where Rich Paul directs guys our way for developmental purposes despite falling further in the draft.

Here’s how Shaffty put it — I don’t remember the cringe tweet if anyone has a reminder there, and am not sure what’s going on with his Instagram use, but I believe it:

Marjon Beauchamp - I was all in on Marjon. After his first two summer league games this year I was ready to put him in the 2nd tier with Khris Middleton, then he sent that cringe ass tweet and put up two stinkers. Proving he’s more concerned about his image/how he looks then playing winning basketball.

He plays timidly, he listens to the haters, and spends too much time on instagram. He has the tools and skill to really be a good player. But I’m not sure he will ever be able to find his footing under the spotlight of the Bucks. If I was the Blazers or the Jazz or a team no one cares about I would be interested in stealing him, there is a path for him to become a 10-13 ppg player, I’m just not sure its on the Bucks.

https://buckssuck.substack.com/p/2024-bucks-trade-market-primer

He posted this tweet after 2 summer league games like he had just won MVP then i believe followed it up with 3 halfs of zero points

Read on Twitter

pifhluk23 · Post #1170 » by **pifhluk23** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:31 pm

Shaffty wrote:

He posted this tweet after 2 summer league games like he had just won MVP then i believe followed it up with 3 halfs of zero points

Read on Twitter

Oh were reminded, after every fast break he leads :lol:

engelmartin · Post #1171 » by **engelmartin** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:33 pm

Is AJ Griffin the answer? It would be amusing either way.

Badgerlander · Post #1172 » by **Badgerlander** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:37 pm

I was just thinking the other day that Schroeder would be a good fit for us but I wanted Precious back if we were going to give up Bobby

crowhead76 · Post #1173 » by **crowhead76** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:25 pm

Malik Beasley is shooting 59% this season on about 72 corner 3's taken. He has a TS% of 66%

Adding an elite defender that can not completely fall off the cliff from the corner would be a huge addition to this roster.

Pat has shot 39% on 36 corner 3's this year. He has a TS% of 54%
Bobby Portis has shot 45% on 40 corner 3's this year. He has a TS% of 59%

Matisse Thybule has shot 44% on 52 corner 3's this year. He has a TS% of 59%

I will keep banging this drum, please trade Pat and Marjon for Thybulle. Then sign Wenyen Gabriel.

Lillard | Payne
Beasley | Thybulle | Green
Middleton | Crowder | Ajax | Thanasis
Giannis | Gabriel | Livingston
Lopez | Portis | Lopez

I also would not be opposed to following it up with a trade of Bobby and Payne to the Wizards for Wright and Gallanari.

Lillard | Wright
Beasley | Thybulle | Green
Middleton | Crowder | Ajax | Thanasis
Giannis | Gallanari | Livingston
Lopez | Gabriel | Lopez

Badgerlander · Post #1174 » by **Badgerlander** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:56 pm

Shaffty wrote:He posted this tweet after 2 summer league games like he had just won MVP then i believe followed it up with 3 halfs of zero points
Spoiler:

Read on Twitter

I thought him talking about working out with Giannis in Greece as the moment people would look back on when he breaks out was even more cringeworthy. Felt like Thon leaving summer league after looking worse than DJ to go work out with Giannis.

bucksfansince88 · Post #1175 » by **bucksfansince88** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:01 pm

What would it take to get Siakam?

crowhead76 · Post #1176 » by **crowhead76** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:10 pm

The Bucks need to figure out a way to sign Gabriel before someone else does. He is playing really good basketball right now. Switchable 4/5 off the bench, would be nice to have to throw different matchups at Boston and Miami.

TroyD92 · Post #1177 » by **TroyD92** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:13 pm

bucksfansince88 wrote:What would it take to get Siakam?

Why would you want Siakam of all people.

Daver · Post #1178 » by **Daver** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:19 pm

crowhead76 wrote:Malik Beasley is shooting 59% this season on about 72 corner 3's taken. He has a TS% of 66%

Adding an elite defender that can not completely fall off the cliff from the corner would be a huge addition to this roster.

Pat has shot 39% on 36 corner 3's this year. He has a TS% of 54%
Bobby Portis has shot 45% on 40 corner 3's this year. He has a TS% of 59%

Matisse Thybule has shot 44% on 52 corner 3's this year. He has a TS% of 59%

I will keep banging this drum, please trade Pat and Marjon for Thybulle. Then sign Wenyen Gabriel.

Lillard | Payne
Beasley | Thybulle | Green
Middleton | Crowder | Ajax | Thanasis
Giannis | Gabriel | Livingston
Lopez | Portis | Lopez

I also would not be opposed to following it up with a trade of Bobby and Payne to the Wizards for Wright and Gallanari.

Lillard | Wright
Beasley | Thybulle | Green
Middleton | Crowder | Ajax | Thanasis
Giannis | Gallanari | Livingston
Lopez | Gabriel | Lopez

Can i assume that anything above 60% TS is very good i mean is 66% TS like uber good

Shaffty · Post #1179 » by **Shaffty** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:00 pm

Daver wrote:
crowhead76 wrote:Malik Beasley is shooting 59% this season on about 72 corner 3's taken. He has a TS% of 66%

Adding an elite defender that can not completely fall off the cliff from the corner would be a huge addition to this roster.

Pat has shot 39% on 36 corner 3's this year. He has a TS% of 54%
Bobby Portis has shot 45% on 40 corner 3's this year. He has a TS% of 59%

Matisse Thybule has shot 44% on 52 corner 3's this year. He has a TS% of 59%

I will keep banging this drum, please trade Pat and Marjon for Thybulle. Then sign Wenyen Gabriel.

Lillard | Payne
Beasley | Thybulle | Green
Middleton | Crowder | Ajax | Thanasis
Giannis | Gabriel | Livingston
Lopez | Portis | Lopez

I also would not be opposed to following it up with a trade of Bobby and Payne to the Wizards for Wright and Gallanari.

Lillard | Wright
Beasley | Thybulle | Green
Middleton | Crowder | Ajax | Thanasis
Giannis | Gallanari | Livingston
Lopez | Gabriel | Lopez

Can i assume that anything above 60% TS is very good i mean is 66% TS like uber good

league average is 58%

Daver · Post #1180 » by **Daver** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:11 pm

Shaffty wrote:
Daver wrote:
crowhead76 wrote:Malik Beasley is shooting 59% this season on about 72 corner 3's taken. He has a TS% of 66%

Adding an elite defender that can not completely fall off the cliff from the corner would be a huge addition to this roster.

Pat has shot 39% on 36 corner 3's this year. He has a TS% of 54%
Bobby Portis has shot 45% on 40 corner 3's this year. He has a TS% of 59%

Matisse Thybule has shot 44% on 52 corner 3's this year. He has a TS% of 59%

I will keep banging this drum, please trade Pat and Marjon for Thybulle. Then sign Wenyen Gabriel.

Lillard | Payne
Beasley | Thybulle | Green
Middleton | Crowder | Ajax | Thanasis
Giannis | Gabriel | Livingston
Lopez | Portis | Lopez

I also would not be opposed to following it up with a trade of Bobby and Payne to the Wizards for Wright and Gallanari.

Lillard | Wright
Beasley | Thybulle | Green
Middleton | Crowder | Ajax | Thanasis
Giannis | Gallanari | Livingston
Lopez | Gabriel | Lopez

Can i assume that anything above 60% TS is very good i mean is 66% TS like uber good

league average is 58%

For a guy 90% of the board didnt want hes doing 1 hell of a job dont care if hes a mim.vet guy or not hes doing better thsn some big time studs are yet tbere are still beas bashers( shootingthej) that will refuse to give beas any credit even with stats like this