2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

8516knicks · Post #1601 » by **8516knicks** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:55 pm

aggo wrote:Iq + rj
For
Reaves + Rui

Lakers not that stupid 8-)

8516knicks · Post #1602 » by **8516knicks** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:01 pm

I like this trade. We had a glut of unpredictably reliable 6 6 and under guys and few true NBA caliber 6 7 and up not centers. Now OG balances Randle, spreads the floor and Precious may be able to play some 5 to spell Hart while Mitch in on his annual medical vacation.

RHODEY · Post #1603 » by **RHODEY** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:04 pm

nyk2017 wrote:We need to trade RJ ASAP while he still retains some value. By this time next year, his contract will likely become an albatross and we will be talking about attaching 1-2 FRPs just to get rid of him so we can make room for a superstar.

Well...it happened but the price was IQ.

Jay10 · Post #1604 » by **Jay10** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:05 pm

RHODEY wrote:
nyk2017 wrote:We need to trade RJ ASAP while he still retains some value. By this time next year, his contract will likely become an albatross and we will be talking about attaching 1-2 FRPs just to get rid of him so we can make room for a superstar.

Well...it happened but the price was IQ.

IQ was getting traded the moment Donte signed with the Knicks over the summer.

robillionaire · Post #1605 » by **robillionaire** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:18 pm

I called it

Skybox · Post #1606 » by **Skybox** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:34 pm

LookToShoot wrote:
Skybox wrote:
LookToShoot wrote:

My wish came true!

RJ AND IQ and "draft considerations" for an elite role player...not sure I love it for NYK (unless OG has another gear we haven't seen)...especially when he demands $35m this summer. He's an awesome player, but IDK

I hate to lose IQ, but it had to be done to get rid of RJ (never should have paid him in the first place). OG is a selfless and mature player and he'll fit right in with what Thibs wants him to do.

I came by here a while back offering (I thought) significant stuff for RJ and got bounced out the door as he was tearing it up.

ditto ...Quickley. Although, I totally get IQ. Even though, as a Magic fan, I'd be willing to bet on IQ having a next level that NYK shouldn't pay for if they can't give him the same role- made sense to move him. OG is a better player for NYK...but you better hopes he doesn't mind the NY media, the big city, and especially Thibs. He seems like a no-nonsense tough guy, so should be a good fit.

Congratulations on the first big move. Sitting here in ORL ...waiting, waiting, waiting.

nykballa2k4 · Post #1607 » by **nykballa2k4** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:22 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
FrozenEnvelope wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:Reposting the RJ for Bojan idea because I r-eally like it

Yes, let's trade a 23 year old for a 34 year old. Smart!

Better player, better contract. It allows you to retain and acquire better players by avoiding the second apron in 2025 and by having more contract flexibility.

RJ's contract is dead weight, but it could fast become untradable entirely and prevent us from retaining IQ with the looming Brunson max extension in 2025 (or from trading for a star). Yes, even at his age. It's not about capspace, it's about the apron.

I don't think IQ and RJ cannot co-exist. But if we like Grimes, we have to move one of them because Grimes (unless he stays benched) will command 20M on his own. Right now a smart team would take him for MLE money (or a team with space would pay at least 15 for him).

If we are talking about max contracts... the problems are going to be extending Mitch, Randle, JB, iHart.
We already have Hart and DD locked in to fair bench contracts (about MLE size) RJ is locked in to a good contract for what he does.
If we want a better player (OG) say at the cost of RJ and IQ, that enables us to maybe keep our 2-headed monster at the center position. Something like Grimes, IQ and Fournier for Hunter (maybe or not picks included). Starting 5 of Mitch-Randle-Hunter-RJ-Brunson answers a lot of questions.

Chanel Bomber · Post #1608 » by **Chanel Bomber** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:28 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
FrozenEnvelope wrote:
Yes, let's trade a 23 year old for a 34 year old. Smart!

Better player, better contract. It allows you to retain and acquire better players by avoiding the second apron in 2025 and by having more contract flexibility.

RJ's contract is dead weight, but it could fast become untradable entirely and prevent us from retaining IQ with the looming Brunson max extension in 2025 (or from trading for a star). Yes, even at his age. It's not about capspace, it's about the apron.

I don't think IQ and RJ cannot co-exist. But if we like Grimes, we have to move one of them because Grimes (unless he stays benched) will command 20M on his own. Right now a smart team would take him for MLE money (or a team with space would pay at least 15 for him).

If we are talking about max contracts... the problems are going to be extending Mitch, Randle, JB, iHart.
We already have Hart and DD locked in to fair bench contracts (about MLE size) RJ is locked in to a good contract for what he does.
If we want a better player (OG) say at the cost of RJ and IQ, that enables us to maybe keep our 2-headed monster at the center position. Something like Grimes, IQ and Fournier for Hunter (maybe or not picks included). Starting 5 of Mitch-Randle-Hunter-RJ-Brunson answers a lot of questions.

Bro check the threads I missed them too. There's been news in Knickland

nykballa2k4 · Post #1609 » by **nykballa2k4** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:42 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:Better player, better contract. It allows you to retain and acquire better players by avoiding the second apron in 2025 and by having more contract flexibility.

RJ's contract is dead weight, but it could fast become untradable entirely and prevent us from retaining IQ with the looming Brunson max extension in 2025 (or from trading for a star). Yes, even at his age. It's not about capspace, it's about the apron.

I don't think IQ and RJ cannot co-exist. But if we like Grimes, we have to move one of them because Grimes (unless he stays benched) will command 20M on his own. Right now a smart team would take him for MLE money (or a team with space would pay at least 15 for him).

If we are talking about max contracts... the problems are going to be extending Mitch, Randle, JB, iHart.
We already have Hart and DD locked in to fair bench contracts (about MLE size) RJ is locked in to a good contract for what he does.
If we want a better player (OG) say at the cost of RJ and IQ, that enables us to maybe keep our 2-headed monster at the center position. Something like Grimes, IQ and Fournier for Hunter (maybe or not picks included). Starting 5 of Mitch-Randle-Hunter-RJ-Brunson answers a lot of questions.

Bro check the threads I missed them too. There's been news in Knickland

nyk2017 · Post #1610 » by **nyk2017** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:09 pm

I like this trade even though giving up IQ was not my preference. Knicks were not signing IQ to $25+ million to sit on the bench. They weren’t going to start him given their love for Donavan Mitchell or Booker. Now the Knicks can use up all their remaining assets for one of those SGs. RJ will no longer be taking shots from Hart and Grimes so it opens things up for them as well.

Post #1611 » by **Capn'O** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:13 pm

robillionaire wrote:I called it

I concurred. Though I almost said I'd prefer Precious to Boucher and now wish I had.

SARGO127 · Post #1612 » by **SARGO127** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:40 pm

Thinking outside of the box, do we think MEM might deal Bane for a package of Grimes + multiple picks since they are out of it. Doubtful I guess, but he’d be a nice fit.

Ma10 · Post #1613 » by **Ma10** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:50 pm

Now trade everything we have for Donovan Mitchell and I'm even okay with bitchh assss Randle on this team!

nykballa2k4 · Post #1614 » by **nykballa2k4** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:11 pm

Capn'O wrote:
robillionaire wrote:I called it

I concurred. Though I almost said I'd prefer Precious to Boucher and now wish I had.

I think we were all calling this for about a years time :lol:

Jeffrey · Post #1615 » by **Jeffrey** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:15 pm

sol537 · Post #1616 » by **sol537** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:36 pm

Nice… though you forgot Precious?

LoveMyRaps · Post #1617 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:10 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
I know most Raps fans wouldn't, but I'm still a (deluded?) believer in RJ. I think a change of scenery would greatly benefit him. He tends to play well for Team Canada so maybe playing for his hometown Raps would maximize his potential? I could see it. Not sure how the Raps FO feel about him.

what would you offer for him?

I tried to be as fair as possible.

Would y'all do the official trade or the hypothetic one I proposed on here a lil while back?

Jeffrey · Post #1618 » by **Jeffrey** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:11 pm

sol537 wrote:Nice… though you forgot Precious?

Is he taking Gibson or Hart's minutes. I actually don't know his game... someone from the TOR board said he is an idiot that will have some good games.

3toheadmelo · Post #1619 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:11 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:what would you offer for him?

I tried to be as fair as possible.

Would y'all do the official trade or the hypothetic one I proposed on here a lil while back?

i think official trade is better since we didn't give up any 1st round picks. we're trying to use our 1st round picks for a star

LoveMyRaps · Post #1620 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:12 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
I tried to be as fair as possible.

Would y'all do the official trade or the hypothetic one I proposed on here a lil while back?

i think official trade is better since we didn't give up any 1st round picks. we're trying to use our 1st round picks for a star

Yeah, I definitely think the official one is better for y'all as well. The difference between Poeltl and Hartenstein is marginal and definitely not worth giving up a 1st round pick.