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Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24 – (Trade Deadline Feb. 8, 3PM, ET)

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, Lucky Part 13 

Post#261 » by JaMarco » Sat Dec 30, 2023 1:52 pm

snowman wrote:I will admit that at the first of the year, I wanted Queta over Kornet. As the season progressed, I change that way of thinking by wanting both on the regular roster for health reasons. Now, I give Kornet his props, he had a great game tonight, and I do not think Queta could have made the plays Kornet did. I still want Boston to sign Queta to the 15th spot, as the 4th big, with Kornet being the third big. I feel both are needed. Even if Queta only plays during end of game blowouts, that is better than having Porzingis or Horford on the court and get hurt for nothing or run up their minutes.

I will stand by my last post in that I don't think Svi or Stevens are showing enough, and one or both need to be moved along with our upcoming 1st round pick for a player that fits into Grants TPE that can shoot and defend off the bench. I think Brad has shown that he would rather have a high 2nd round pick (31-33) then a low 1st round pick (29-30). That way you can sign the player picked with the 2nd round pick to a two-way contract, verses having to guarantee a player picked at the end of the 1st round to a guaranteed money deal.

I don't think Kornet or Queta are good enough to be the Cs third big long term.
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Post#262 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:08 pm

JaMarco wrote:I don't think Kornet or Queta are good enough to be the Cs third big long term.

It sounds good in theory to upgrade the third big spot on the roster. However with the CBA, teams have a limited number of assets and spending them to upgrade that third big just isn't an efficient use of resources.

Nobody plays three bigs in the playoffs anyway so those guys are merely regular season minutes eaters. Kornet and Queta can do that as well (better probably) as anybody you can pick up for free. Hell some teams don't even play two bigs in the playoffs (see Denver playing Gordon and Jeff Green up front during their title run when Jokic was on the bench) so the Celtics have more than enough depth at the 5.
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Post#263 » by Dogen » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:20 pm

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165bows wrote:Jitty/Tillman to Boston
Olynyk to Memphis
D. Rose, Svi, seconds to Utah.

Who is Jitty, is it Ja Morant by any chance?


That's a nice, substantive upgrade. Not sure why Utah or Mem are interested though. Konchar is a good White backup, and Tillman gives us some more beef upfront. Svi has been OK at times, but Konchar fits the Celtics like a glove.

This fills out the 15 man roster and I guess Queta stays 2 Way for now, unless Lamar or Banton are moved/waived.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, Lucky Part 13 

Post#264 » by celtxman » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:05 pm

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JaMarco wrote:I don't think Kornet or Queta are good enough to be the Cs third big long term.

It sounds good in theory to upgrade the third big spot on the roster. However with the CBA, teams have a limited number of assets and spending them to upgrade that third big just isn't an efficient use of resources.

Nobody plays three bigs in the playoffs anyway so those guys are merely regular season minutes eaters. Kornet and Queta can do that as well (better probably) as anybody you can pick up for free. Hell some teams don't even play two bigs in the playoffs (see Denver playing Gordon and Jeff Green up front during their title run when Jokic was on the bench) so the Celtics have more than enough depth at the 5.

I think there was legitimate concern at the beginning of the season about the Celtics big man rotation. Even now the Celtics may consider someone like Nick Richards in a trade to help rebounding. But now that we know what Queta can do, I think the better fit is Olynyk if he can be gotten.
Kornet is no longer just a salary slot. If he doesn’t stay with the Celtics another playoff team would scoop him up.
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Post#265 » by brackdan70 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:47 pm

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JaMarco wrote:I don't think Kornet or Queta are good enough to be the Cs third big long term.

It sounds good in theory to upgrade the third big spot on the roster. However with the CBA, teams have a limited number of assets and spending them to upgrade that third big just isn't an efficient use of resources.

Nobody plays three bigs in the playoffs anyway so those guys are merely regular season minutes eaters. Kornet and Queta can do that as well (better probably) as anybody you can pick up for free. Hell some teams don't even play two bigs in the playoffs (see Denver playing Gordon and Jeff Green up front during their title run when Jokic was on the bench) so the Celtics have more than enough depth at the 5.

I think there was legitimate concern at the beginning of the season about the Celtics big man rotation. Even now the Celtics may consider someone like Nick Richards in a trade to help rebounding. But now that we know what Queta can do, I think the better fit is Olynyk if he can be gotten.
Kornet is no longer just a salary slot. If he doesn’t stay with the Celtics another playoff team would scoop him up.

Agree on Kornet. He fits well here. 10-15 minutes a game he brings a lot on both ends, and he has shown he can be effective as a spot starter in case of emergency. Some like Richard’s would be great to add some depth and muscle.
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Post#266 » by brackdan70 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:52 pm

More and more I feel good about Kornet and Queta as our depth bigs.if some great trade or buy out candidate lands in our lap great, but I don’t feel we “need” an upgrade here. I also feel good with Pritchard as our bench ball handler, and Hauser is a great shooter with size off the bench. The spot where we could upgrade imo now is versatile wing defender. Brissett is ok here as a 3/4 and is playing decent. Maybe we are ok as is but I’d like to add another playable guy on that mold.
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Post#267 » by JaMarco » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:52 pm

It's not an absolute need to upgrade over Kornet/Queta, but it would make a significant difference to their offense if they could upgrade to a big that can shoot the 3.
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Post#268 » by bisme37 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:21 pm

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Precious Achiuwa also going to Knicks.
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Post#269 » by Dogen » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:33 pm

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Precious Achiuwa also going Knicks.


I actually don't hate that for the Raptors. Could be a mutually beneficial trade, and maybe Toronto not finished yet.
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Post#270 » by bisme37 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:36 pm

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Precious Achiuwa also going Knicks.


I actually don't hate that for the Raptors. Could be a mutually beneficial trade, and maybe Toronto not finished yet.


I spent a second loving it for the Knicks but I think they may have taken a step back offensively losing Barrett and Quickly and bringing in a defender/spot-up shooter. Decent trade for both though imo.

Another note... the Raps will now be without OG and Achiuwa vs Pistons tonight as they try to avoid a very sad loss to the worst NBA team of all time.
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Post#271 » by ConstableGeneva » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:38 pm

Luke Kornet and the Boston Celtics broke Masai and the Raptors.
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Post#272 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:44 pm

I like it for both teams.


I wish we could have found a way to snag achiuwa tho. Some team’s aren’t built to have certain players work for them but for what we need i think a lot of bigs could be fine here. Kornet and Queta were on the streets but with Celtics they look like solid backups and that’s all you can really expect from 3-4th big! I think Precious could excel with Celtics.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread 2023-24, Lucky Part 13 

Post#273 » by Dogen » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:51 pm

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Precious Achiuwa also going Knicks.


I actually don't hate that for the Raptors. Could be a mutually beneficial trade, and maybe Toronto not finished yet.


I spent a second loving it for the Knicks but I think they may have taken a step back offensively losing Barrett and Quickly and bringing in a defender/spot-up shooter. Decent trade for both though imo.

Another note... the Raps will now be without OG and Achiuwa vs Pistons tonight as they try to avoid a very sad loss to the worst NBA team of all time.


Well, go Pistons then. I feel for them, they are not THAT bad. A few years ago when they got Cade, I put them in a breakout category with OKC, HOU, and ORL, thinking one of those teams would be in playoff run by this year. I didn't think the discepancy would be so huge at this juncture. Pistons have talent, but they need to trade and get a SGA, Maxey, Fox, Brunson type of player that can get to the cup and take pressure off Cunningham.

For the Knicks, they have Brunson and Randle and a some other guys drooling for more touches. Barrett was sort of odd man out and maybe they sold high on him, but he still has upside and should fit well with Barnes in Toronto.
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Post#274 » by Dogen » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:53 pm

Shak_Celts wrote:I like it for both teams.

I wish we could have found a way to snag achiuwa tho. Some team’s aren’t built to have certain players work for them but for what we need i think a lot of bigs could be fine here. Kornet and Queta were on the streets but with Celtics they look like solid backups and that’s all you can really expect from 3-4th big! I think Precious could excel with Celtics.


Now is too late for Achuiwa with TPE? Maybe he'll be on the move again. Could be a nice bench player for the Knicks but I'm not sure they need him with Hartenstein, Sims, Taj backing up Robinson and Randle.

Edit: Robinson out for the season, so this is a solid add for Knicks to have Precious included in the deal.
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Post#275 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:02 pm

RJ would be great as a backup to Tatum and brown but the salary cap games everything like that sadly.

Maxi would be brilliant too on the Celtics, certainly helping score off the bench.
I actually like this trade for both teams seems like a good shake them up and the Knicks needed a quality smile forward and upgrade had Toronto needed a draft picks and to blow it up they are going nowhere slowly and that's the wrong thing in the modern NBA
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Post#276 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:03 pm

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Precious Achiuwa also going Knicks.

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Post#277 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:04 pm

Yep, I'll be happy when the Celtics get a good smile forward too, they could use a backup.
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Post#278 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:09 pm

Is Harstenteine available for a trade because that is the guy that Celtics should want? he would be absolutely perfect as a backup big and occasionally three point scorer, rebounder.
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Post#279 » by BK_2020 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:11 pm

Achiuwa appears to be one of those small 4/5 types who can't shoot from the outside, or finish at the rim, or handle the ball or pass it very well. On top of everything he shoots 60% from the line.
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Post#280 » by BK_2020 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:13 pm

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Is Harstenteine available for a trade because that is the guy that Celtics should want? he would be absolutely perfect as a backup big and occasionally three point scorer, rebounder.

The Knicks have lost their starting C for the year so Hartenstein is the starter. Also, I wonder what makes you think Hartenstein would be a good three point shooter. He averages 0.1 threes per game this season and has shot like 80 threes in his entire 5 year career.

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