76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

[zaz102]

I can't see why Utah wouldn't just keep Lauri, unless he wants out. He's young, good, and on a good contract. It'll take more than 2 picks.

Contract timing. Don't think they'd want to max out a 27-year-old next summer when they have no other pieces surrounding him and aren't close to contending.

Why not just trade him next season then if they're not getting a great offer?

[Skates]

The OG deal feels like legal tampering with OG’s new agent being Leon Rose’s kid. Likely intended to sign in NY no matter what so Toronto got what they could. Silver won’t look into anything like this since they are desperate to have the Knicks be contenders.

OG the skill set was a nice fit here, but his next contract plus assets spent to be able to overpay the most to keep him was going to cost too much.

[Sixerscan]

Wish there was a feasible way to acquire Grant + Brogdon without giving up Harris.

Morris/Cov/Batum/Korkmaz for Grant/Brogdon (can even add a minimum guy from Portland if needed) does work fwiw

[HotelVitale]

I wonder if Morey wasn't super interested in OG or if Masai preferred a player like Quickley to compete.

I imagine the Sixers could beat the deal on paper if they wanted.

How? Raptors seem to have wanted some solid younger players and the pick they got is soon and more or less a late first. We don’t have enticing young guys who can play now.

[Skates]

What the heck is intriguing about RJ Barrett? He is all name and little game.

[zaz102]

I wonder if Morey wasn't super interested in OG or if Masai preferred a player like Quickley to compete.

I imagine the Sixers could beat the deal on paper if they wanted.

How? Raptors seem to have wanted some solid younger players and the pick they got is soon and more or less a late first. We don’t have enticing young guys who can play now.

IMO, I think that their 3 1sts and swap (plus expiring) can fetch a better deal than Quickley and an Barret dump whether a three team trade or a flip.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I wonder if Morey wasn't super interested in OG or if Masai preferred a player like Quickley to compete.

I imagine the Sixers could beat the deal on paper if they wanted.

How? Raptors seem to have wanted some solid younger players and the pick they got is soon and more or less a late first. We don’t have enticing young guys who can play now.

I agree, I don't think we could have beaten the Knicks offer. Barrett despite his struggles is still an ascending player in some circles and IQ is a potential breakout player waiting to happen. Back in the 2020 draft, I thought IQ was every bit as good as Maxey. Now I'm not saying that's the case now, but there's no reason why he can't drop 20 a night in a starters role and he'll get that shot in Toronto. They get IQ and Barrett...Two players that want to be there for two players in OG and Achiuwa that didn't want to be there anymore. Malachi Flynn was also included in the deal and he'll get a chance in New York for minutes as a backup point guard. It's a good trade all the way around.

I personally don't think we were ever even in the conversation for OG Anunoby. I think Morey as of right now, is looking at smaller deals that may have potential high rewards to them. That seems to be his forte when it comes to making trades. He wants to find the next James Harden. Those of you that are familiar with the trade that originally sent Harden to Houston from OKC will know exactly what I mean by that.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Wish there was a feasible way to acquire Grant + Brogdon without giving up Harris.

Morris/Cov/Batum/Korkmaz for Grant/Brogdon (can even add a minimum guy from Portland if needed) does work fwiw

I'd be fine with that if that was an option. As hyped as I was to get Cov and Batum after the Harden trade, they've done little to nothing for us. Grant and Brogdan step in and fill big minutes with better roles on this team. Then you promote from within. KJ Martin is waiting his turn. Give him whatever minutes are left at the wing position. There wont be much.

[Kobblehead]

Quickley is a good get for the Raptors. He'll explode as a 20+ ppg scorer with a 30+ mpg role for them. He's a damn good guard.

The Barrett thing seems like a huge waste of time. His jumpshot is inconsistent and he offers no defense.

[HotelVitale]

I wonder if Morey wasn't super interested in OG or if Masai preferred a player like Quickley to compete.

I imagine the Sixers could beat the deal on paper if they wanted.

How? Raptors seem to have wanted some solid younger players and the pick they got is soon and more or less a late first. We don’t have enticing young guys who can play now.

IMO, I think that their 3 1sts and swap (plus expiring) can fetch a better deal than Quickley and an Barret dump whether a three team trade or a flip.

Well first I don’t want to pay that price for OG, esp since re-signing him would mean us getting really expensive and/or giving up some of our other guys. (I definitely don’t see OG as our last piece that makes us top contenders though.) Second it makes sense that the Raptors would want win now/soon guys over distant picks, even if those guys are less valuable than lotta picks in many deals. We just don’t happen to have that type of player

[Stanford]

What the heck is intriguing about RJ Barrett? He is all name and little game.

Doubt he was priced as a positive asset. IQ as a RFA and OG as a UFA is probably close to equal value.

[zaz102]

How? Raptors seem to have wanted some solid younger players and the pick they got is soon and more or less a late first. We don’t have enticing young guys who can play now.

IMO, I think that their 3 1sts and swap (plus expiring) can fetch a better deal than Quickley and an Barret dump whether a three team trade or a flip.

Well first I don’t want to pay that price for OG, esp since re-signing him would mean us getting really expensive and/or giving up some of our other guys. (I definitely don’t see OG as our last piece that makes us top contenders though.) Second it makes sense that the Raptors would want win now/soon guys over distant picks, even if those guys are less valuable than lotta picks in many deals. We just don’t happen to have that type of player

Fair enough. Your points were my question. Was Morey not interested enough to offer the haul or was Toronto thought Quickley was better than what Morey was willing to offer? Sounds like you essentially think it was both.

[ProcessDoctor]

I can't see why Utah wouldn't just keep Lauri, unless he wants out. He's young, good, and on a good contract. It'll take more than 2 picks.

Contract timing. Don't think they'd want to max out a 27-year-old next summer when they have no other pieces surrounding him and aren't close to contending.

Why not just trade him next season then if they're not getting a great offer?

Also possible. Not saying they'd give him away for free, but the smoke around him is similar to what happened when Mitchell was about to be traded. I think Ainge seems ready to move on whenever the right deal comes along, whether that's before the deadline or this summer.

[ProcessDoctor]

Wish there was a feasible way to acquire Grant + Brogdon without giving up Harris.

Morris/Cov/Batum/Korkmaz for Grant/Brogdon (can even add a minimum guy from Portland if needed) does work fwiw

Kills our forward depth but I'd consider it. I don't trust Martin as a backup 4 but maybe there's a separate solution.

Maxey/Beverley/Springer
Melton/Brogdon/Council?
Grant/Oubre/House
Harris/Martin?/Lofton?
Embiid/Reed/Bamba

Could shift Reed up as the primary backup 4, but Nurse so far hasn't played Reed next to Embiid much. Bamba has shown flashes recently, so maybe he can handle more backup 5 duties as well. But definitely a big short imo.

[Skates]

So the second rounder is Detroit’s this year, so essentially pick 31. Probably also worth more than RJ, other than his Canadianness.

[elchengue20]

Don't love the trade for either team. I think Toronto won, but still they should have traded him earlier to get more.

I'm just glad we didn't trade our draft capital + spend our cap space in a overrated player like OG.

[Ben]

Wish there was a feasible way to acquire Grant + Brogdon without giving up Harris.

Morris/Cov/Batum/Korkmaz for Grant/Brogdon (can even add a minimum guy from Portland if needed) does work fwiw

Kills our forward depth but I'd consider it. I don't trust Martin as a backup 4 but maybe there's a separate solution.

Maxey/Beverley/Springer
Melton/Brogdon/Council?
Grant/Oubre/House
Harris/Martin?/Lofton?
Embiid/Reed/Bamba

Could shift Reed up as the primary backup 4, but Nurse so far hasn't played Reed next to Embiid much. Bamba has shown flashes recently, so maybe he can handle more backup 5 duties as well. But definitely a big short imo.

But we both know that Reed isn't really a backup center, especially not for a team with title hopes, and we're all seeing that Bamba can't be relied upon for crap. At this point I would target Andre Drummond, maybe even JaVale McGee. Need someone who can anchor the boards and protect some rims when we're otherwise running a small lineup.

[76ciology]

Quickley is a good get for the Raptors. He'll explode as a 20+ ppg scorer with a 30+ mpg role for them. He's a damn good guard.

The Barrett thing seems like a huge waste of time. His jumpshot is inconsistent and he offers no defense.

I saw improvement in Barrett’s jumper during the summer. Look at his corner 3s. Im not a fan of him, but I think he’s equal in value with OG.

And definitely agree your assessment on Quickley

[Wilfried]

Wish there was a feasible way to acquire Grant + Brogdon without giving up Harris.

Morris/Cov/Batum/Korkmaz for Grant/Brogdon (can even add a minimum guy from Portland if needed) does work fwiw

Don't know how you guys think about it, but I would prefer to keep Morris and Batum, and send Harris instead.

[ProcessDoctor]

Wish there was a feasible way to acquire Grant + Brogdon without giving up Harris.

Morris/Cov/Batum/Korkmaz for Grant/Brogdon (can even add a minimum guy from Portland if needed) does work fwiw

Don't know how you guys think about it, but I would prefer to keep Morris and Batum, and send Harris instead.

Yea that works, and we could even keep Cov too. The issue is Harris has better shot-creating skills than any of the aforementioned forwards. Harris/Korkmaz for Grant/Brogdon is probably 2 steps forward, 1 step back.

The more guys you have that can handle the ball and create shots, the better. We've seen glimpses of anemic offense when Maxey and/or Embiid are cold/absent. If you do the Morris/Cov/Batum/Korkmaz package and then sign a buyout/FA backup C (or take a flier on Moses Brown), then I think the team ends up better overall.

Maxey/Beverley/Springer
Melton/Brogdon/Council
Grant/Oubre/House
Harris/Reed/Martin
Embiid/(FA)/Bamba