Peak only - Kawhi vs Kobe

[Raps in 4]

Kawhi, easily. Way more efficient scorer and more versatile defender.

[RRR3]

Kawhi's only real weakness at his peak was playmaking. Pretty much a perfect player otherwise.

[ReginaldDwight]

Kawhi's only real weakness at his peak was playmaking. Pretty much a perfect player otherwise.

And that even at his "peak" he missed games.

Kobe being underrated by the general board is a time honored tradition here.

[One_and_Done]

Kawhi's only real weakness at his peak was playmaking. Pretty much a perfect player otherwise.

And that even at his "peak" he missed games.

Kobe being underrated by the general board is a time honored tradition here.

If anything he's wildly overrated. The vote is way closer than it should be.

[FrobeBryant]

Kawhi's only real weakness at his peak was playmaking. Pretty much a perfect player otherwise.

And that even at his "peak" he missed games.

Kobe being underrated by the general board is a time honored tradition here.

If anything he's wildly overrated. The vote is way closer than it should be.

Dude we get it, you hate Kobe.

[Roger Murdock]

I think one year peak is really close, but a 3 year or 5 year peak is a blowout in Kobe's favor. Kawhi has one season that is disproportionately more valuable than any other season of his career.

2019 Kawhi is one of the best overall seasons in recent memory but his second best season is either one of the years he got injured in the playoffs or one of the years he didnt play well in the playoffs.

[Goomba3666]

This is why children and neck beards votes don’t matter in comparison to real ballers. Kawhi is an amazing player but to put him over peak Kobe is a freaking joke. Y’all should be ashamed lol

This. Glad I got to see Kobe play. Because of this, I don’t have to legitimize insane debates by going back and forth with people.

Very few people have actually watched Kobe pay before 2013. I remember watching him in the playoffs against the Kings and Spurs. Most people on this board don’t even realize that Jalen Rose intentionally injured him in the 2000 finals but will still post those stats.

[Goomba3666]

And that even at his "peak" he missed games.

Kobe being underrated by the general board is a time honored tradition here.

If anything he's wildly overrated. The vote is way closer than it should be.

Dude we get it, you hate Kobe.

Yeah. Him, pertaining to him along with a handful of others, it’s better to just point, ridicule, and laugh. Anything other than that runs the risk of taking them seriously.

[bubonicphoniks]

Yeah the GB hates Kobe loves Doncic.

Im going to say Kobe here. Kawhi was always a suoer super super role player.

[Luke]

Read only the first posts of this topic

Many guys are insane or ignorant.

Kawhi better defender by a mile ?????? LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kobe is the best ALL TIME ( with KG ) with NINE selections in the ALL-DEFENSIVE NBA FIRST TEAM

I can't believe that here there are almost only guys under 15 years old...

And Kobe so called inefficiency is way overrated ...

[TheHartBreakKid]

Edit: Wrong thread. My Bad. Please disregard

[clippertown]

Kawhi is my favorite player in the entire NBA and I think Kobe's peak was higher.

[dshearn]

Come on bro, Kawhi in 2017 smokes any year Kobe had.

Kawhi in 2017
Regular season:
1888 pts / 430reb / 260 ast / 133 stl / 55 blk

Playoffs:
332 pts / 93 reb / 55 ast / 20 stl / 6 blk

Total:
2220 pts / 523 reb / 315 ast/ 153 stl/ 61 blk
.489 FG

Kobe 2009
Regular season:
2201 pts / 429 reb / 399 ast /120 stl / 37 blk
Playoffs:
695 pts/ 123 reb /126 ast / 38 stl / 21 blk
Total:
2896 pts / 552 reb / 525 ast / 158 stl / 58 blk
.464

Kobe has
+676 pts, +29 reb, +210 ast, +5 stl, -3 blk , -2.5 FG%
Theres an argument that kawhi's efficiency and defense trump kobes volume and playmaking, but its definitely close

some will say, kobe played more minutes and more games! but thats the point... Kobe, MJ, whatever big name player you compare to leonard, destroys his output over an entire season because he has never played an entire season. he is only comparable if you start cutting down to months or playoff runs or series etc...

since some people have mentioned jordan:

1990
Regular season:
2753 pts / 565 reb / 519 ast / 227 stl / 54 blk
Playoffs:
587 pts / 115 reb / 109 ast / 45 stl / 14 blk
Total:
3340 pts / 680 reb / 628 ast / 272 stl / 68 blk
.524 FG%

this one is not even close for either K

There in lays the issue.... availability....

Would be great to see Kobe or Jordan with this modern era's rule set and 3 point shooting

[Iwasawitness]

Kobe was a better defender than Kawhi? I have read one of the most insane argument ever

I never said he was better, check your reading comprehension, but Kobe was no slouch on defense. I have Kobe in front of Kawhi because of offense

Dont change the goal post. You made the case of Kobe better than Kawhi and said he was lockdown defender which implies Kawhi was not a lockdown defender. The reality is Kawhi is a lockdown defender while Kobe was never a lockdown defender.

Actually, I'm with MrGoat on this one. The impression I got out of this as well is that he was simply stating that Kobe was a brilliant defender in his day... I don't think that = he was better than Kawhi at it. Both things can be true.

[HeartBreakKid]

This is why children and neck beards votes don’t matter in comparison to real ballers. Kawhi is an amazing player but to put him over peak Kobe is a freaking joke. Y’all should be ashamed lol

This. Glad I got to see Kobe play. Because of this, I don’t have to legitimize insane debates by going back and forth with people.

Very few people have actually watched Kobe pay before 2013. I remember watching him in the playoffs against the Kings and Spurs. Most people on this board don’t even realize that Jalen Rose intentionally injured him in the 2000 finals but will still post those stats.

What the hell are you talking about? Do you think 14 year olds are using message boards in 2023? Most people on this board if anything grew up with Kobe Bryant which would make them nostalgic for him

The overwhelming majority of people on RealGm were watching basketball during Kobe Bryant's prime. Like 80% . It's like you're so shocked some people do not think he is the GOAT you have to assume they must not have seen him play. Jesus christ.

[benson13]

There are several players I rate below Kobe all-time who had superior peaks. Peak Kobe Bryant was great but not legendary.

[Mirotic12]

The Kobe hate in these forums is unreal.

[MavsDirk41]

Kawhi's only real weakness at his peak was playmaking. Pretty much a perfect player otherwise.

And that even at his "peak" he missed games.

Kobe being underrated by the general board is a time honored tradition here.

If anything he's wildly overrated. The vote is way closer than it should be.

Even if you think Leonards peak was greater, why would the difference be that much skewed where it wouldnt be close? What in the world has Leonard done to impress you that much?

[JHFVF07]

It is easier have better advanced stats when you can rest 20 games per season and playing on a defenseless era.

[MavsDirk41]

It is easier have better advanced stats when you can rest 20 games per season and playing on a defenseless era.

This