Around the NBA Continued

3toheadmelo · Post #1161 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:05 am

those tunnel vision drives are starting to happen again.

DaGawd · Post #1162 » by **DaGawd** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:05 am

rj with the charge.. he needs to stop trying to take dudes one on one on the break completely

Post #1163 » by **K_ick_God** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:06 am

DaGawd wrote:rj with the charge.. he needs to stop trying to take dudes one on one on the break completely

Really the guy was moving fully

Well anyway they both look just like they did with us basically. Not a surprise

8516knicks · Post #1164 » by **8516knicks** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:08 am

Will be fun if we meet them in the Playoffs somehow.

robillionaire · Post #1165 » by **robillionaire** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:08 am

I’ve seen enough lol

YouthMovement · Post #1166 » by **YouthMovement** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:08 am

it's nice watching rj have tunnel vision for another team

8516knicks · Post #1167 » by **8516knicks** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:09 am

YouthMovement wrote:it's nice watching rj have tunnel vision for another team

It's one of his superpowers.

Post #1168 » by **K_ick_God** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:09 am

RJ has added some moves but leaving all those layups short or off the rim not a great sign. I suspect he has less chance of fixing that than his jumpers

iQ’s floater before was not exactly a masterclass either

SelbyCobra · Post #1169 » by **SelbyCobra** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:10 am

mpharris36 wrote:In all seriousness do people want to see RJ fail? He always was a good kid, he wanted to be a knick. Sure he never really blossomed here the way we wanted especially for the #3 pick. But he, like IQ, were really good dudes. They never got in trouble, they were hard workers, and just likable guys.

If we're being serious for a second, I think the issue for a lot of people is that the bolded question is asked from the same perspective that drives the cyclical debate about RJ on these forums the past few years. To many, myself included, RJ Barrett has already clearly failed. He has posted failure-level results in the NBA. There are numerous metrics that point out the depths of his negative impact, and they are ignored/brushed aside by many for the sake of an emotional connection to the player himself and/or the need for him to pan out for the team. A whole year of results, hell YEARS of results, are treated the same as a 7 game set, a great back to back, or even a lights out half.

So for some fans, RJ Barrett has already failed by objective measures, and the inability of others to acknowledge this creates an animus towards any concept based in the notion that he's somehow a solid option, good bet, or anything else that runs in stark contrast to what the measurables on him have clearly said for years now.

I think what you're seeing as rooting for RJ to fail is actually instigating those on the other side of the argument to finally acknowledge that he's a poor NBA basketball player on the whole, and not some intriguing prospect to dream on. I honestly think 99.44% of Knicks fans wouldn't be mad at all if RJ somehow became a completely different player in TOR and made a positive impact on the court, for all the reasons you laid out - he's a good kid, hard worker, head on straight, rode for the franchise, etc.

Just my opinion.

HarthorneWingo · Post #1170 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:10 am

RJ with 3 turnovers in 18 minutes.

knicksNOTslick · Post #1171 » by **knicksNOTslick** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:10 am

RJ missing layups. Definitely don't miss that.

8516knicks · Post #1172 » by **8516knicks** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:10 am

He'll settle in to be a reliable or semi-reliable 5th option.

8516knicks · Post #1173 » by **8516knicks** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:11 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:RJ with 3 turnovers in 18 minutes.

Spent too long studying Randle. 8-)

Buttah304 · Post #1174 » by **Buttah304** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:12 am

RJ trifecta in a nutshell on full display:

(1) Travel
(2) Offensive Foul
(3) Brick layup coast to coast

Getting OG back is legitimately one of the best deals that we’ve made in a long time.

Post #1175 » by **K_ick_God** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:12 am

Cavs should get back Sexton lol

HarthorneWingo · Post #1176 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:13 am

mpharris36 wrote:In all seriousness do people want to see RJ fail? He always was a good kid, he wanted to be a knick. Sure he never really blossomed here the way we wanted especially for the #3 pick. But he, like IQ, were really good dudes. They never got in trouble, they were hard workers, and just likable guys.

That just seems odd. Like I understand hating someone like Noah who came here and said he was just partying and stealing money. Or other guys who just didn't give a sh*t. But that didn't seem like the case.

Now I want he knicks to beat the snot out of the raps when we play them but I don't want to see RJ or IQ play bad in TOR. I am hoping for a win/win deal. We got a really good player in OG so I am happy!

He's already failed. :lol:

He was the third pick in the draft and he didn't develop. Bad shooting, bad defense.

Post #1177 » by **K_ick_God** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:13 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:RJ with 3 turnovers in 18 minutes.

Not ahead of IQ’s 4 fouls in 14 minutes

HarthorneWingo · Post #1178 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:13 am

Buttah304 wrote:RJ trifecta in a nutshell on full display:

(1) Travel
(2) Offensive Foul
(3) Brick layup coast to coast

Getting OG back is legitimately one of the best deals that we’ve made in a long time.

I liken this to the Debusschere trade.

3toheadmelo · Post #1179 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:14 am

wish IQ didnt get into foul trouble. want to see him cook

HarthorneWingo · Post #1180 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:14 am

KnicksGod wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:RJ with 3 turnovers in 18 minutes.

Not ahead of IQ’s 4 fouls in 14 minutes

I'll seriously miss IQ but this was a great trade for us.