NFC East

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Who will win the division next season?

Commanders
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Cowboys
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30%
Eagles
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Giants
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Re: NFC East 

Post#1661 » by Jaydubb » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:16 pm

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Mamba42 wrote:There were some fun years with him. Michael Vick? First iteration of Nick Foles?

The really fun Michael Vick year was 100% Andy Reid. Vick wasn’t as good with chip for whatever reason which sounds odd. The nick foles rookie year was chip but I think it was moreso because the league hadn’t seen chip dip Kelly’s offense in the nfl yet and didn’t know how to defend it but the rest of the league caught on pretty quick after that first year.


I just think chip wasn’t terrible. But he’s last on my list

Andy
Doug
Nick
Chip

I think that’s fair. Hopefully the next one is here longer considering I don’t have high hopes they’ll bring back Nick. I don’t think it’s a good sign Sean desai was fired in season. Means there’s a lot of upset in the front office and things aren’t being looked at very well.

I think that’s how most people would rank the eagles coaches
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Post#1662 » by QB_Eagles » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:17 pm

Jaydubb wrote:It’s wild to know what chip offered for mariota. The equivalent of lane johnson, the 20th pick that year, fletcher cox, nick foles, and two 2nd round picks. lmfao that was about to be one of the worst trades in nfl history. Luckily Tennessee declined that offer

That's how you know that "report" originated from Howie. It only makes the Titans look bad for not accepting the trade offer, if it ever actually existed.
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Post#1663 » by last stand » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:17 pm

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QB_Eagles wrote:I have to admit I liked Chip way more than I should have. His greatest deed in the NFL was almost winning a power struggle against Howie Roseman.


I mean lol

He wanted to draft mariota and Dion Jordan during his stay

He drafted Marcus smith once he took over power

Howies last draft before chip took over was lane Johnson and Zach ertz

I’m not sure chip taking power away was exactly for the best. Howie clearly can build Super Bowl caliber rosters

It’s wild to know what chip offered for mariota. The equivalent of lane johnson, the 20th pick that year, fletcher cox, nick foles, and two 2nd round picks. lmfao that was about to be one of the worst trades in nfl history. Luckily Tennessee declined that offer


Would’ve been lethal to the franchise. The only hope is considering how much I believe where a players drafted matters maybe in his college coaches system with desean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin in he could’ve been done better things
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Post#1664 » by Jaydubb » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:19 pm

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Jaydubb wrote:It’s wild to know what chip offered for mariota. The equivalent of lane johnson, the 20th pick that year, fletcher cox, nick foles, and two 2nd round picks. lmfao that was about to be one of the worst trades in nfl history. Luckily Tennessee declined that offer

That's how you know that "report" originated from Howie. It only makes the Titans look bad for not accepting the trade offer, if it ever actually existed.

True. It’s not confirmed but with how much chip valued his Oregon guys I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s true or at least partially true
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Post#1665 » by last stand » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:20 pm

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Jaydubb wrote:It’s wild to know what chip offered for mariota. The equivalent of lane johnson, the 20th pick that year, fletcher cox, nick foles, and two 2nd round picks. lmfao that was about to be one of the worst trades in nfl history. Luckily Tennessee declined that offer

That's how you know that "report" originated from Howie. It only makes the Titans look bad for not accepting the trade offer, if it ever actually existed.


2 1st rounders and 2 2nd rounders isn’t that out there?

Isn’t that what the panthers essentially traded this season?

DJ Moore, 2 1sts and 2 2nds

I’d argue that offer actually isn’t that out there considering an offer in a similar ball park was just offered

and mariota was a hotter prospect than 5-11 Bryce young

And no one thought the titans had to trade their pick which people thought of the bears considering they had fields already and made it clear they wanted to trade the pick
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Re: NFC East 

Post#1666 » by QB_Eagles » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:23 pm

last stand wrote:I mean, they seemed convinced. The eagles had Ronald Darby and Jalen mills when they won the Super Bowl?

Darby is currently a starting CB on the league best defense. He's always been good when not injured.

Mills is a competent DB as well; just has a weakness against double moves when playing outside corner.
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Post#1667 » by last stand » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:26 pm

The mariota offer was allegedly

A 2015 first-round pick (20th overall)
A 2015 second-round pick (47th overall)
A 2016 first-round pick (13th overall)
Any quarterback on the roster
Any defensive player on the roster

I’m going to say that’s a reasonable possibility based on what the panthers traded this year
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Re: NFC East 

Post#1668 » by QB_Eagles » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:26 pm

last stand wrote:
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Jaydubb wrote:It’s wild to know what chip offered for mariota. The equivalent of lane johnson, the 20th pick that year, fletcher cox, nick foles, and two 2nd round picks. lmfao that was about to be one of the worst trades in nfl history. Luckily Tennessee declined that offer

That's how you know that "report" originated from Howie. It only makes the Titans look bad for not accepting the trade offer, if it ever actually existed.


2 1st rounders and 2 2nd rounders isn’t that out there?

Isn’t that what the panthers essentially traded this season?

DJ Moore, 2 1sts and 2 2nds

I’d argue that offer actually isn’t that out there considering an offer in a similar ball park was just offered

and mariota was a hotter prospect than 5-11 Bryce young

And no one thought the titans had to trade their pick which people thought of the bears considering they had fields already and made it clear they wanted to trade the pick

The Titans were terrible. They needed great players like Lane and Cox more than just a QB. Mariota wasn't exactly a sure shot either. If that offer was ever on the table, the Titans GM would have needed to be a real idiot not to take it
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Post#1669 » by Jaydubb » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:28 pm

last stand wrote:The mariota offer was allegedly

A 2015 first-round pick (20th overall)
A 2015 second-round pick (47th overall)
A 2016 first-round pick (13th overall)
Any quarterback on the roster
Any defensive player on the roster

I’m going to say that’s a reasonable possibility based on what the panthers traded this year

Whoops, I got my years wrong. I thought the next year was when the eagles drafted lane. So lane wasn’t part of it, but “any qb and any defensive player on the roster” is probably Nick foles and fletcher Cox.
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Post#1670 » by Jaydubb » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:30 pm

For some reason I thought lane was part of the alleged deal though which would be the worst part
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Post#1671 » by last stand » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:30 pm

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last stand wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:That's how you know that "report" originated from Howie. It only makes the Titans look bad for not accepting the trade offer, if it ever actually existed.


2 1st rounders and 2 2nd rounders isn’t that out there?

Isn’t that what the panthers essentially traded this season?

DJ Moore, 2 1sts and 2 2nds

I’d argue that offer actually isn’t that out there considering an offer in a similar ball park was just offered

and mariota was a hotter prospect than 5-11 Bryce young

And no one thought the titans had to trade their pick which people thought of the bears considering they had fields already and made it clear they wanted to trade the pick

The Titans were terrible. They needed great players like Lane and Cox more than just a QB. Mariota wasn't exactly a sure shot either. If that offer was ever on the table, the Titans GM would have needed to be a real idiot not to take it


Mariota was considered a generational talent though. It’s not out there to think a GM would be hesitant to trade away a 6-4 mobile heisman trophy winning QB

I mean he’d be fired just as quickly had mariota been great in chip kellys system as a rookie
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Re: NFC East 

Post#1672 » by last stand » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:33 pm

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last stand wrote:I mean, they seemed convinced. The eagles had Ronald Darby and Jalen mills when they won the Super Bowl?

Darby is currently a starting CB on the league best defense. He's always been good when not injured.

Mills is a competent DB as well; just has a weakness against double moves when playing outside corner.


Both are ok corners

Weren’t Bradley fletcher and Carey Williams considered ok corners when they were signed?

I mean ironically Cary Williams was the starting corner on the 2012 Baltimore ravens Super Bowl team lol
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Post#1673 » by QB_Eagles » Mon Jan 1, 2024 11:44 pm

last stand wrote:Weren’t Bradley fletcher and Carey Williams considered ok corners when they were signed?

Yeah, but then how did they look on the field.

2013 was no SB roster. The success the team had that year was due to the innovation of Chip's offense. I understand Avant, Jackson, Vick like to think differently.
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Re: NFC East 

Post#1674 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Jan 2, 2024 12:35 am

With the flu going around these days the safest place to be is in the Eagles end zone. They don't catch anything in there. :wink:
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Re: NFC East 

Post#1675 » by Jaydubb » Tue Jan 2, 2024 1:04 am

https://sportsnaut.com/philadelphia-eagles-significant-coaching-changes/

Lurie out for blood.. you gotta think about how much money he’s losing here by not having any home playoff games. You win the nfc East and you might get 2, but get in as a wild card and you probably have none.
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Post#1676 » by last stand » Tue Jan 2, 2024 1:13 am

Jaydubb wrote:https://sportsnaut.com/philadelphia-eagles-significant-coaching-changes/

Lurie out for blood.. you gotta think about how much money he’s losing here by not having any home playoff games. You win the nfc East and you might get 2, but get in as a wild card and you probably have none.


It’s what I thought. I think there’s more going on behind the scenes than we know. It’s more than home playoff games though

Think about that 250 million dollar Jalen contract. If I were in charge of that thing I’d want to make sure it’s best utilized

The amount of money that went into the offense, just even the talent there.

A healthy OL, Jalen, brown, smith, swift all have been healthy.

I’m not sure if it’s a sure thing but with a hot name like Ben Johnson out there I wonder if he’ll see a better usage of Jalen through a coach like that
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Re: NFC East 

Post#1677 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Jan 2, 2024 1:41 am

Jaydubb wrote:https://sportsnaut.com/philadelphia-eagles-significant-coaching-changes/

Lurie out for blood.. you gotta think about how much money he’s losing here by not having any home playoff games. You win the nfc East and you might get 2, but get in as a wild card and you probably have none.

As if the Cowgirls are gonna lose to the Commandettes. Come on.
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Re: NFC East 

Post#1678 » by last stand » Tue Jan 2, 2024 1:47 am

QB_Eagles wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:https://sportsnaut.com/philadelphia-eagles-significant-coaching-changes/

Lurie out for blood.. you gotta think about how much money he’s losing here by not having any home playoff games. You win the nfc East and you might get 2, but get in as a wild card and you probably have none.

As if the Cowgirls are gonna lose to the Commandettes. Come one.


This board would be pretty obnoxious if they did though
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Post#1679 » by Mr B » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:27 am

Jaydubb wrote:https://sportsnaut.com/philadelphia-eagles-significant-coaching-changes/

Lurie out for blood.. you gotta think about how much money he’s losing here by not having any home playoff games. You win the nfc East and you might get 2, but get in as a wild card and you probably have none.

Are they saying that Matt Patricia would be maintained as the DC or are they suggesting Patricia be promoted to HC?

Who realistically would they likely target? They usually always go the coordinator route. Any idea on who Laurie might hire?
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Post#1680 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:30 am

Mr B wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:https://sportsnaut.com/philadelphia-eagles-significant-coaching-changes/

Lurie out for blood.. you gotta think about how much money he’s losing here by not having any home playoff games. You win the nfc East and you might get 2, but get in as a wild card and you probably have none.

Are they saying that Matt Patricia would be maintained as the DC or are they suggesting Patricia be promoted to HC?

Who realistically would they likely target? They usually always go the coordinator route. Any idea on who Laurie might hire?

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