NFC East

[QB_Eagles]

Are they saying that Matt Patricia would be maintained as the DC or are they suggesting Patricia be promoted to HC?

Who realistically would they likely target? They usually always go the coordinator route. Any idea on who Laurie might hire?

I'm guessing DC with an offensive guy coming in as HC.

Since 1999 Lurie has only hired youngish offensive HCs.

last stand has been floating the name Ben Johnson (Lions OC) and I agree he might be a candidate.

[Jaydubb]

https://sportsnaut.com/philadelphia-eagles-significant-coaching-changes/

Lurie out for blood.. you gotta think about how much money he’s losing here by not having any home playoff games. You win the nfc East and you might get 2, but get in as a wild card and you probably have none.

As if the Cowgirls are gonna lose to the Commandettes. Come on.

Yeah I don’t know why they said “if”. I mean, anything can happen but I’d say it’s very unlikely at this point. I’ve already accepted it as if it already happened.

[last stand]

Are they saying that Matt Patricia would be maintained as the DC or are they suggesting Patricia be promoted to HC?

Who realistically would they likely target? They usually always go the coordinator route. Any idea on who Laurie might hire?

I'm guessing DC with an offensive guy coming in as HC.

Since 1999 Lurie has only hired youngish offensive HCs.

last stand has been floating the name Ben Johnson (Lions OC) and I agree he might be a candidate.

He’s right up their alley, Ben Johnson has lurie written all over him young, proven playcaller with room to grow. Either Ben Johnson or some guy on a staff I don’t know about. I don’t think they’d keep Patricia though. I think they’d go with Jerrod mayo personally. They’ve interviewed him for HC before. I could see them going for him once bill B is fired as DC. Or a guy from the ravens staff like the guy you said we should’ve hired in dennard wilson

[last stand]

https://sportsnaut.com/philadelphia-eagles-significant-coaching-changes/

Lurie out for blood.. you gotta think about how much money he’s losing here by not having any home playoff games. You win the nfc East and you might get 2, but get in as a wild card and you probably have none.

Are they saying that Matt Patricia would be maintained as the DC or are they suggesting Patricia be promoted to HC?

Who realistically would they likely target? They usually always go the coordinator route. Any idea on who Laurie might hire?

Ben Johnson or someone from an innovative staff like the rams, dolphins, chiefs. Maybe they’d interview one of the kubiaks on the niners staff.

But it’ll be offense. Lurie will never hire a defensive head coach

[last stand]

I could see Nick being brought back as well, but assuming Brian Johnson figures out playcalling and improves he’ll be poached and the same thing will happen again

I could see lurie and company getting spooked by what happened this year and seeing a ceiling with Nick because he doesn’t call plays. You’re going to run into issues every time the OC gets hired. That never happens with the chiefs, rams or niners

Lurie has been looking for Andy since Andy left.

I could see lurie wanting a proven playcaller and I could see him pay a pretty penny for Ben Johnson. And for Ben Johnson you’re coming into a situation set up for major success with jalen, brown, smith, goedert and the offensive line

[Mr B]

So yall don’t think Laurie would ever go after a bigger name like Harbaugh?

[Jaydubb]

Yeah I doubt Lurie would bring in a defensive guy as a HC. He likes offensive guys as the head coach, an offensive philosophy that relies on big plays (specifically in the passing game) and a defensive philosophy similar to the Vic fangio system. Both Gannon and desai are fangio disciples and I’m assuming Lurie wants to keep a similar defensive style. In other words a lotta zone, very few blitzes, the goal is to limit explosive plays. Eagle fans like to call it “death by a thousand cuts”. Personally I’m getting kinda bored of the style. I’m not saying I want an ultra aggressive blitz friendly scheme, but I would appreciate a scheme that is capable of disguising blitzes better and will bring it occasionally. Occasionally is more often than never which is the current eagles style.

[last stand]

So yall don’t think Laurie would ever go after a bigger name like Harbaugh?

I doubt it. I’m not sure he’d like the whole “culture setter” full control vibe

He likes young offensive minds from good coaching trees

Ben Johnson has the “playcalling genius” moniker which he’ll like

And then I could see him looking at the kubiaks, or someone on mcvay, Reid

Having said that I’m not sure they fire sirianni without an obvious big name like Ben Johnson

They’d need to know the guy coming in can call plays, he can’t be a guess. People forget but sirianni came in calling plays, couldn’t do it, relinquished to Steichen. I’m not sure they’d take that risk over just rolling with sirianni again with new coordinators

Guarantee there’ll be a massacre on the staff. Probably everyone but stoutland lol

[last stand]

Yeah I doubt Lurie would bring in a defensive guy as a HC. He likes offensive guys as the head coach, an offensive philosophy that relies on big plays (specifically in the passing game) and a defensive philosophy similar to the Vic fangio system. Both Gannon and desai are fangio disciples and I’m assuming Lurie wants to keep a similar defensive style. In other words a lotta zone, very few blitzes, the goal is to limit explosive plays. Eagle fans like to call it “death by a thousand cuts”. Personally I’m getting kinda bored of the style. I’m not saying I want an ultra aggressive blitz friendly scheme, but I would appreciate a scheme that is capable of disguising blitzes better and will bring it occasionally. Occasionally is more often than never which is the current eagles style.

I think they’ll change their philosophy when it comes to offense with the times. I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t get excited with innovation and motion. They hired Doug and Doug was more of a WCO guy. I think they just wanna know the guy they hire is interesting offensively

Defensively I know Nick believes in the eberflus, fangio type deal. Idk how much of that is Nick or Nick and the front office.

We’ll have to wait and see.

[Jaydubb]

So yall don’t think Laurie would ever go after a bigger name like Harbaugh?

See that’s the thing, a guy like harbaugh probably wouldn’t be hired because he would want control over more things than what Lurie and howie want. Same as belicheck, I’ll just get that out the way before it even becomes a rumor..

For the eagles, howie is the guy that runs the show. When chip came in and forced the eagles to change that, bad things happened, when they put howie back in charge he built a Super Bowl team then rebuilt another team that went back to the Super Bowl within 5 years. I think it will take a lot for Lurie to allow somebody else to come in and take some control away from howie.

[Jaydubb]

Yeah I doubt Lurie would bring in a defensive guy as a HC. He likes offensive guys as the head coach, an offensive philosophy that relies on big plays (specifically in the passing game) and a defensive philosophy similar to the Vic fangio system. Both Gannon and desai are fangio disciples and I’m assuming Lurie wants to keep a similar defensive style. In other words a lotta zone, very few blitzes, the goal is to limit explosive plays. Eagle fans like to call it “death by a thousand cuts”. Personally I’m getting kinda bored of the style. I’m not saying I want an ultra aggressive blitz friendly scheme, but I would appreciate a scheme that is capable of disguising blitzes better and will bring it occasionally. Occasionally is more often than never which is the current eagles style.

I think they’ll change their philosophy when it comes to offense with the times. I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t get excited with innovation and motion. They hired Doug and Doug was more of a WCO guy. I think they just wanna know the guy they hire is interesting offensively

Defensively I know Nick believes in the eberflus, fangio type deal. Idk how much of that is Nick or Nick and the front office.

We’ll have to wait and see.

Yeah motion is almost nonexistent for the eagles offense.lol which ironically is one of the things the eagles struggle with on defense, maybe because they never see it in practice..lol I just want something new. The current style on both sides isn’t getting things done.

[last stand]

So yall don’t think Laurie would ever go after a bigger name like Harbaugh?

See that’s the thing, a guy like harbaugh probably wouldn’t be hired because he would want control over more things than what Lurie and howie want. For the eagles, howie is the guy that runs the show. When chip came in and forced the eagles to change that, bad things happened, when they put howie back in charge he built a Super Bowl team then rebuilt another team that went back to the Super Bowl within 5 years. I think it will take a lot for Lurie to allow somebody else to come in and take some control away from howie.

Howie is great when he listens to his scouts and drafts from the SEC. The eagles have good guys in the scouting department.

They also have good guys in the professional scouting department and typically sign good free agents.

But this year was a miss. They should’ve resigned CJGJ, TJ and Kyzir

They should’ve let bradberry walk, and gave ringo reps earlier. The chiefs did that last year. Let some youth get reps early and by the playoffs they were rolling.

But all that, I think lurie would want a young playcaller who can work with the rosters howie builds. That’s my guess.

I think it’s Ben Johnson or sirianni next year

[last stand]

Yeah I doubt Lurie would bring in a defensive guy as a HC. He likes offensive guys as the head coach, an offensive philosophy that relies on big plays (specifically in the passing game) and a defensive philosophy similar to the Vic fangio system. Both Gannon and desai are fangio disciples and I’m assuming Lurie wants to keep a similar defensive style. In other words a lotta zone, very few blitzes, the goal is to limit explosive plays. Eagle fans like to call it “death by a thousand cuts”. Personally I’m getting kinda bored of the style. I’m not saying I want an ultra aggressive blitz friendly scheme, but I would appreciate a scheme that is capable of disguising blitzes better and will bring it occasionally. Occasionally is more often than never which is the current eagles style.

I think they’ll change their philosophy when it comes to offense with the times. I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t get excited with innovation and motion. They hired Doug and Doug was more of a WCO guy. I think they just wanna know the guy they hire is interesting offensively

Defensively I know Nick believes in the eberflus, fangio type deal. Idk how much of that is Nick or Nick and the front office.

We’ll have to wait and see.

Yeah motion is almost nonexistent for the eagles offense.lol which ironically is one of the things the eagles struggle with on defense, maybe because they never see it in practice..lol I just want something new. The current style on both sides isn’t getting things done.

I think they definitely need something different on defense. Offensively my concern is nicks scheme feels like the issue. If he has an OC come in and design their own offense then I’m fine with Nick staying

I do like Nick as a person

But if it’s nicks “offense” I want him gone because I think his offense relies too much on long winded routes, and basically talent winning out being the main thing that dictates a plays success

The offense is basically like Jalen, AJ, devonta be great and OL be the best in the nfl.

It never feels like the play calls win, it never feels like the scheme wins

[Jaydubb]

So yall don’t think Laurie would ever go after a bigger name like Harbaugh?

See that’s the thing, a guy like harbaugh probably wouldn’t be hired because he would want control over more things than what Lurie and howie want. For the eagles, howie is the guy that runs the show. When chip came in and forced the eagles to change that, bad things happened, when they put howie back in charge he built a Super Bowl team then rebuilt another team that went back to the Super Bowl within 5 years. I think it will take a lot for Lurie to allow somebody else to come in and take some control away from howie.

Howie is great when he listens to his scouts and drafts from the SEC. The eagles have good guys in the scouting department.

They also have good guys in the professional scouting department and typically sign good free agents.

But this year was a miss. They should’ve resigned CJGJ, TJ and Kyzir

They should’ve let bradberry walk, and gave ringo reps earlier. The chiefs did that last year. Let some youth get reps early and by the playoffs they were rolling.

But all that, I think lurie would want a young playcaller who can work with the rosters howie builds. That’s my guess.

I think it’s Ben Johnson or sirianni next year

Cjgj was a difficult situation because he was taking way too long. Howie couldn’t take the risk of losing both. Bradberry had a very good year last year so I was cool at the time with bringing him back but this year he looks like complete trash. I guess this is probably a result of not bringing back Dennard Wilson. TJ on the other hand never made sense to me. I mean, I knew the eagles wouldn’t bring him back but I don’t understand why they consistently refuse to pay linebackers. It’s annoying.

Also while we are talking about the young guys, I thought Sydney brown was gonna start game 1. By many accounts he was the best safety or maybe 2nd best safety after reed in training camp. But, the eagles don’t like to give big minutes right away to late round picks which has always been weird to me.. just play the best players..lmao ringo, ricks, brown and now ojomo are looking like pretty good late round picks. Who knows what this defense would be if they got to play earlier in the year. At worst they’d provide quality depth.

[Jaydubb]

I think they’ll change their philosophy when it comes to offense with the times. I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t get excited with innovation and motion. They hired Doug and Doug was more of a WCO guy. I think they just wanna know the guy they hire is interesting offensively

Defensively I know Nick believes in the eberflus, fangio type deal. Idk how much of that is Nick or Nick and the front office.

We’ll have to wait and see.

Yeah motion is almost nonexistent for the eagles offense.lol which ironically is one of the things the eagles struggle with on defense, maybe because they never see it in practice..lol I just want something new. The current style on both sides isn’t getting things done.

I think they definitely need something different on defense. Offensively my concern is nicks scheme feels like the issue. If he has an OC come in and design their own offense then I’m fine with Nick staying

I do like Nick as a person

But if it’s nicks “offense” I want him gone because I think his offense relies too much on long winded routes, and basically talent winning out being the main thing that dictates a plays success

The offense is basically like Jalen, AJ, devonta be great and OL be the best in the nfl.

It never feels like the play calls win, it never feels like the scheme wins

The long developing plays are so annoying.. There’s been wayyy too many times where the eagles needed like 3 yards for a first and all receivers ran like at least 10 yard routes…lmao why? Situational calls is a major issue.

[Mamba42]

I'd like to imagine Chip never existed in NFL.

There were some fun years with him. Michael Vick? First iteration of Nick Foles?

First year was interesting but NFL catches up to you fast, and I thought even in Philly he tried to run the team like a college coach, same fatal mistake Urban made. He gave up on players too quickly largely when they didnt accept his dictatorial approach, which obviously worked well in college. Would have liked to see the Foles-McCoy-Maclin team given another chance.

With Niners he was just abhorrent. He didnt have much to work with but he also never made adjustments when defenses caught up to his play calling, that one year was the most unwatchable football Ive ever seen. He also clashed with everyone for the same reasons.

Yeah he was terrible after 1 or 2 years for sure, not going to argue against that. An absolute disaster in SF.

[Mamba42]

The really fun Michael Vick year was 100% Andy Reid. Vick wasn’t as good with chip for whatever reason which sounds odd. The nick foles rookie year was chip but I think it was moreso because the league hadn’t seen chip dip Kelly’s offense in the nfl yet and didn’t know how to defend it but the rest of the league caught on pretty quick after that first year.

I just think chip wasn’t terrible. But he’s last on my list

Andy
Doug
Nick
Chip

I think that’s fair. Hopefully the next one is here longer considering I don’t have high hopes they’ll bring back Nick. I don’t think it’s a good sign Sean desai was fired in season. Means there’s a lot of upset in the front office and things aren’t being looked at very well.

I think that’s how most people would rank the eagles coaches

By personality though I'll put Sirianni last. Dude seems like a total prick lol

[Mamba42]

For some reason I thought lane was part of the alleged deal though which would be the worst part

Or the best part if you like Micah Parsons

[Mamba42]

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Eagles look at Kellen Moore again too if they fire Sirianni. That'd be very difficult for me as a BSU graduate and big time Kellen Moore fan.

[last stand]

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Eagles look at Kellen Moore again too if they fire Sirianni. That'd be very difficult for me as a BSU graduate and big time Kellen Moore fan.

No way whatsoever

It has to be someone who is worth dropping sirianni for