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Post#861 » by HadAnEffectHere » Mon Jan 1, 2024 1:50 pm

FarBeyondDriven wrote:the trolling by the usual suspects in here is impressive. At least, I pray it's trolling, because if these are actual takes..whew lad!


Just begging Collier to win games and make shots and have an A/TO ratio above 1.

His stats are horrible, his projectable skills are worse, and USC is incredibly bad.
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Post#862 » by EvanZ » Mon Jan 1, 2024 3:37 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:the trolling by the usual suspects in here is impressive. At least, I pray it's trolling, because if these are actual takes..whew lad!


Just begging Collier to win games and make shots and have an A/TO ratio above 1.

His stats are horrible, his projectable skills are worse, and USC is incredibly bad.


Collier has 1 dunk in 374 minutes. Sheppard has 3 dunks in 276. This does not bode well for Collier. :lol:
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Post#863 » by FarBeyondDriven » Tue Jan 2, 2024 12:43 am

HadAnEffectHere wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:the trolling by the usual suspects in here is impressive. At least, I pray it's trolling, because if these are actual takes..whew lad!


Just begging Collier to win games and make shots and have an A/TO ratio above 1.

His stats are horrible, his projectable skills are worse, and USC is incredibly bad.


you guys can't even troll right :noway:

he has 4.2 assists to 4 turnovers. That is clearly above 1:1 so your math ain't mathing genius :lol:
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Post#864 » by EvanZ » Tue Jan 2, 2024 1:07 am

It’s now called trolling to point out a guy’s weaknesses?


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Post#865 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:53 am

1/1 update

really struggled to even put together a top 10 which is mind bending for me at this point but here we are

1 Matas Buzelis
2 Stephon Castle
3 Ja'Kobe Walter
4 Alexandre Sarr
5 KJ Evans
6 Kyle Filipowski
7 Reed Sheppard
8 Rob Dillingham
9 Ron Holland
10 Otega Oweh
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Post#866 » by HadAnEffectHere » Tue Jan 2, 2024 3:36 am

I understand that this draft is probably the worst of all time, but Castle at 2... Man.

He's a PG who can barely dribble who is 1/8 from three on the season.
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Post#867 » by MemphisX » Tue Jan 2, 2024 3:42 am

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Sarr has been very solid out here this season (Australian NBL).
He's only playing a touch under 50% court time (and our games are only 40 mins) but he's getting 10ppg, 5rpg, shooting 51% from the field.

Plenty to work on, as you'd expect, but overall good consistency, and his length and mobility are both as advertised. Definitely looks like a high pick to me, although he's not out here killing guys (which would be a bit too much to expect, but would make the #1 pick choice easier...lol)

Bobi Klintman has looked pretty impressive most of the time, AJ Johnson has looked decent when I've watched him, but I've seen less of him than the other two. But they're more end of lottery types I'm guessing, with Klintman the better prospect I think. Got a few Aussies out here who'll be hoping to get picked, maybe second round, too.


What are your thoughts on Alex Toohey?


I hope I'm wrong, but I reckon he needs another year in the NBL before he's ready.
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He's been a super talent all the way through in Australia, and he's stepped seamlessly into the starting lineup of a really strong team in our league, bumping some pretty decent vets aside to do so.
He has good positional size, including both height and length. His defence is decent (although I suspect he'd be rough as a rookie in the NBA, like most).

But...
He's a shooter shooting 31% from three, and 43% overall. As much as I'd love to pump his tyres up, I'd be cautious on him, tbh. But he seems to be getting incrementally better each game (ignoring a mini shooting slump in his last 2)

Later second round pick you leave in Australia for another year (or some other development program) then I'd say go for it. He has real potential.

Similar story with Lachlan Olbrich. He looks like a gamer to me, but he's only just now having a consistent impact in a positive sense on games, and he'll need to find his position and role at the next level. Worth a late second round flyer.


Yeah, I was hoping the way Toohey started the season, he would be ready in 2024. Hopefully, he can finish strong and do that because I do not want him to get locked into being a non-NBA player.
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Post#868 » by EvanZ » Tue Jan 2, 2024 3:45 am

HadAnEffectHere wrote:I understand that this draft is probably the worst of all time, but Castle at 2... Man.

He's a PG who can barely dribble who is 1/8 from three on the season.

Next RJB lol


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Post#869 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:07 am

HadAnEffectHere wrote:I understand that this draft is probably the worst of all time, but Castle at 2... Man.

He's a PG who can barely dribble who is 1/8 from three on the season.


What's your top 5?
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Post#870 » by HadAnEffectHere » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:11 am

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HadAnEffectHere wrote:I understand that this draft is probably the worst of all time, but Castle at 2... Man.

He's a PG who can barely dribble who is 1/8 from three on the season.


What's your top 5?


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(Probably Topic, Risacher, Sarr, Walter, Sheppard)
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Post#871 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:17 am

Topic I haven't watched yet maybe he's that guy well see, other than I don't think anyone "earned" #1...I don't ever think Matas is a true #1 either just by default essentially.
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Post#872 » by HadAnEffectHere » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:24 am

Yeah, these guys are all pretty not great. Risacher at #2 is brutal as I see him as a future fourth best player on a good team, but his production is good enough for him to be safe enough that he'll probably be an OK starting PF in the NBA.
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Post#873 » by Catchall » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:27 am

I think Topic is probably the front-runner to go #1 right now, unless the team drafting there is already heavily invested in a PG they believe in.

I think the Top 6 should be Topic, Sarr, Risacher, Williams, Holland, and Walter. I could see one of the UK guards getting as high as 7 or 8.
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Post#874 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 6:22 am

Catchall wrote:I think Topic is probably the front-runner to go #1 right now, unless the team drafting there is already heavily invested in a PG they believe in.

I think the Top 6 should be Topic, Sarr, Risacher, Williams, Holland, and Walter. I could see one of the UK guards getting as high as 7 or 8.


i doubt a clear #1 is gonna materialize in this class tbh, it's gonna be a fit kind of draft at the top. but maybe Topic is that good we'll see I guess
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Post#875 » by crows2 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 9:09 am

Topic has earned top billing in this draft imo. NBA teams still might not take him first (Doncic didn’t even go number one :banghead: ), but Topic is by FAR the best performed draft prospect this year.
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Post#876 » by Colbinii » Tue Jan 2, 2024 3:39 pm

I like Castle. He is near the top of the chart in athleticism, passing and feel. Can't shoot, but a more spry and quick, slightly smaller Scottie Barnes still has some high-end outcomes.
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Post#877 » by Colbinii » Tue Jan 2, 2024 8:58 pm

How do people see this compared to the 2020 Draft?
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Post#878 » by babyjax13 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 9:16 pm

Colbinii wrote:How do people see this compared to the 2020 Draft?

Right now I'd say it is a bit worse. I felt like Ball had really high upside and thought Wiseman/Edwards were worthy 2nd and 3rd best prospects. No one felt like true number 1 pick material to me, but the lottery was at least deep with guys. Here, I do not think anyone is quite on the tier I had Ball, but maybe in the same tier as Edwards/Wiseman (I might have Sarr/Topic here)? The lottery is also really thin. I have a feeling multiple guys mocked lotto will go in the 2nd and a guy mocked in the 2nd may go lotto, it will be a wild draft night.

One thing I will say, though, is even though it looks abysmal before the draft there is always a chance several guys had some contextual reasons they didn't look as good as they could have. I'm hoping the second half of the year we see some disappointing freshman turn it around.
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Post#879 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 9:37 pm

Colbinii wrote:How do people see this compared to the 2020 Draft?


2020 had a clear top 3 in Antman Wise and Melo (even tho those weren't MY top 3)...they were pretty much agreed on by all the pundits and teams apparently, don't think we'll have a similar consensus at the top of this class at all.
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Post#880 » by Hal14 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 10:14 pm

Colbinii wrote:I like Castle. He is near the top of the chart in athleticism, passing and feel. Can't shoot, but a more spry and quick, slightly smaller Scottie Barnes still has some high-end outcomes.

This is a wild evaluation. He's not near the top of the chart in any of those things. He's barely made any impact in UConn's games so far. He looks lost on the floor a good amount of the time.

Slightly smaller than Barnes? Castle is 6'6" with a 6'9" wingspan. Barnes is 6'8" with a 7'2.75" wingspan. That's a pretty big difference.

Barnes had an assist % in college of 31.6. Castle is at 23.3.

They're highly touted freshmen who can't shoot. That's really the only similarity. And one of them has shown outlier development in the NBA in order to become a really good 3 pt shooter..
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