NFC East

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Who will win the division next season?

Commanders
3
30%
Cowboys
3
30%
Eagles
4
40%
Giants
0
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Total votes: 10

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Re: NFC East 

Post#1701 » by last stand » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:02 am

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Jaydubb wrote:Yeah motion is almost nonexistent for the eagles offense.lol which ironically is one of the things the eagles struggle with on defense, maybe because they never see it in practice..lol I just want something new. The current style on both sides isn’t getting things done.


I think they definitely need something different on defense. Offensively my concern is nicks scheme feels like the issue. If he has an OC come in and design their own offense then I’m fine with Nick staying

I do like Nick as a person

But if it’s nicks “offense” I want him gone because I think his offense relies too much on long winded routes, and basically talent winning out being the main thing that dictates a plays success

The offense is basically like Jalen, AJ, devonta be great and OL be the best in the nfl.

It never feels like the play calls win, it never feels like the scheme wins

The long developing plays are so annoying.. There’s been wayyy too many times where the eagles needed like 3 yards for a first and all receivers ran like at least 10 yard routes…lmao why? Situational calls is a major issue.


Why they don’t run an AJ slant on every 3rd down is beyond me. It’s should be AJ on a slant, devonta on a cross or goedert on some sort of zone gap look
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Post#1702 » by last stand » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:04 am

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Jaydubb wrote:See that’s the thing, a guy like harbaugh probably wouldn’t be hired because he would want control over more things than what Lurie and howie want. For the eagles, howie is the guy that runs the show. When chip came in and forced the eagles to change that, bad things happened, when they put howie back in charge he built a Super Bowl team then rebuilt another team that went back to the Super Bowl within 5 years. I think it will take a lot for Lurie to allow somebody else to come in and take some control away from howie.


Howie is great when he listens to his scouts and drafts from the SEC. The eagles have good guys in the scouting department.

They also have good guys in the professional scouting department and typically sign good free agents.

But this year was a miss. They should’ve resigned CJGJ, TJ and Kyzir

They should’ve let bradberry walk, and gave ringo reps earlier. The chiefs did that last year. Let some youth get reps early and by the playoffs they were rolling.

But all that, I think lurie would want a young playcaller who can work with the rosters howie builds. That’s my guess.

I think it’s Ben Johnson or sirianni next year

Cjgj was a difficult situation because he was taking way too long. Howie couldn’t take the risk of losing both. Bradberry had a very good year last year so I was cool at the time with bringing him back but this year he looks like complete trash. I guess this is probably a result of not bringing back Dennard Wilson. TJ on the other hand never made sense to me. I mean, I knew the eagles wouldn’t bring him back but I don’t understand why they consistently refuse to pay linebackers. It’s annoying.

Also while we are talking about the young guys, I thought Sydney brown was gonna start game 1. By many accounts he was the best safety or maybe 2nd best safety after reed in training camp. But, the eagles don’t like to give big minutes right away to late round picks which has always been weird to me.. just play the best players..lmao ringo, ricks, brown and now ojomo are looking like pretty good late round picks. Who knows what this defense would be if they got to play earlier in the year. At worst they’d provide quality depth.


That’s fair. I love Sydney brown, he’s got potential. If the eagles had resigned white and edwards they’d be a completely different defense
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Re: NFC East 

Post#1703 » by Jaydubb » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:06 am

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I just think chip wasn’t terrible. But he’s last on my list

Andy
Doug
Nick
Chip

I think that’s fair. Hopefully the next one is here longer considering I don’t have high hopes they’ll bring back Nick. I don’t think it’s a good sign Sean desai was fired in season. Means there’s a lot of upset in the front office and things aren’t being looked at very well.

I think that’s how most people would rank the eagles coaches
By personality though I'll put Sirianni last. Dude seems like a total prick lol

Well, maybe, maybe not. But there’s been rumors about chip Kelly possibly being racist for years both in Philadelphia and afterwards while he was at ucla. Whether it’s true or not, I don’t know, I’d probably say it’s not true but you never know. I always say you never really know a person. The way people act in public a lot of times isn’t a true reflection of how they really are.
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Post#1704 » by Jaydubb » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:07 am

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Jaydubb wrote:For some reason I thought lane was part of the alleged deal though which would be the worst part
Or the best part if you like Micah Parsons

Micah parsons is the only cowboy I like. But I’m starting to like their kicker too
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Post#1705 » by Jaydubb » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:10 am

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Howie is great when he listens to his scouts and drafts from the SEC. The eagles have good guys in the scouting department.

They also have good guys in the professional scouting department and typically sign good free agents.

But this year was a miss. They should’ve resigned CJGJ, TJ and Kyzir

They should’ve let bradberry walk, and gave ringo reps earlier. The chiefs did that last year. Let some youth get reps early and by the playoffs they were rolling.

But all that, I think lurie would want a young playcaller who can work with the rosters howie builds. That’s my guess.

I think it’s Ben Johnson or sirianni next year

Cjgj was a difficult situation because he was taking way too long. Howie couldn’t take the risk of losing both. Bradberry had a very good year last year so I was cool at the time with bringing him back but this year he looks like complete trash. I guess this is probably a result of not bringing back Dennard Wilson. TJ on the other hand never made sense to me. I mean, I knew the eagles wouldn’t bring him back but I don’t understand why they consistently refuse to pay linebackers. It’s annoying.

Also while we are talking about the young guys, I thought Sydney brown was gonna start game 1. By many accounts he was the best safety or maybe 2nd best safety after reed in training camp. But, the eagles don’t like to give big minutes right away to late round picks which has always been weird to me.. just play the best players..lmao ringo, ricks, brown and now ojomo are looking like pretty good late round picks. Who knows what this defense would be if they got to play earlier in the year. At worst they’d provide quality depth.


That’s fair. I love Sydney brown, he’s got potential. If the eagles had resigned white and edwards they’d be a completely different defense

Oh 100%. Hell I wonder if the eagles would look different if nakobe dean was able to stay injury free. Leonard has been fine but they need somebody on the other side that is capable of making a play..lol
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Post#1706 » by last stand » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:13 am

Losing Cunningham has hurt. He was like mediocre at least
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Post#1707 » by Jaydubb » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:16 am

last stand wrote:Losing Cunningham has hurt. He was like mediocre at least

He had some really good games I thought, but there were some games where he got exposed in the passing game but I wonder if that’s more of a scheme issue.
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Post#1708 » by Mariner » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:34 am

Jaydubb wrote:
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Jaydubb wrote:Cjgj was a difficult situation because he was taking way too long. Howie couldn’t take the risk of losing both. Bradberry had a very good year last year so I was cool at the time with bringing him back but this year he looks like complete trash. I guess this is probably a result of not bringing back Dennard Wilson. TJ on the other hand never made sense to me. I mean, I knew the eagles wouldn’t bring him back but I don’t understand why they consistently refuse to pay linebackers. It’s annoying.

Also while we are talking about the young guys, I thought Sydney brown was gonna start game 1. By many accounts he was the best safety or maybe 2nd best safety after reed in training camp. But, the eagles don’t like to give big minutes right away to late round picks which has always been weird to me.. just play the best players..lmao ringo, ricks, brown and now ojomo are looking like pretty good late round picks. Who knows what this defense would be if they got to play earlier in the year. At worst they’d provide quality depth.


That’s fair. I love Sydney brown, he’s got potential. If the eagles had resigned white and edwards they’d be a completely different defense

Oh 100%. Hell I wonder if the eagles would look different if nakobe dean was able to stay injury free. Leonard has been fine but they need somebody on the other side that is capable of making a play..lol


Nakobe Dean was a popular mock pick for the first round. But his physical apparently scared most. Not sure if it’s related but I know it was an issue with him.
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Post#1709 » by Jaydubb » Tue Jan 2, 2024 5:07 am

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That’s fair. I love Sydney brown, he’s got potential. If the eagles had resigned white and edwards they’d be a completely different defense

Oh 100%. Hell I wonder if the eagles would look different if nakobe dean was able to stay injury free. Leonard has been fine but they need somebody on the other side that is capable of making a play..lol


Nakobe Dean was a popular mock pick for the first round. But his physical apparently scared most. Not sure if it’s related but I know it was an issue with him.

He had a pectoral injury in college and I wonder if that’s part of the reason he didn’t play much in year 1. This year he got a foot injury week 1 then came back and got a separate foot injury. I’m assuming the two are related. He got surgery on the second injury. Regardless, this is now already 3 big injuries and he’s a 2nd year player.lol not good
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Post#1710 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Jan 2, 2024 8:14 pm

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Post#1711 » by Mamba42 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 12:00 am

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Makes sense. Can play guard or tackle. Probably won't be what he was at his peak with Dallas, but definitely a serviceable backup at least. Probably no worse than Steele too (who has been horrid in pass protection)
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Post#1712 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Jan 3, 2024 1:34 am

The Jets have parted with Dalvin Cook and rumors of Dallas snagging him are going. Our run game has been awful so it does make a lot of sense.
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Post#1713 » by Mamba42 » Wed Jan 3, 2024 1:54 am

Micah Prescott wrote:The Jets have parted with Dalvin Cook and rumors of Dallas snagging him are going. Our run game has been awful so it does make a lot of sense.
Would make a ton of sense, so we won't do it
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Post#1714 » by Jaydubb » Wed Jan 3, 2024 2:06 am

Rumor is Dallas is gonna sign everybody
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Post#1715 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Jan 3, 2024 2:09 am

Jaydubb wrote:Rumor is Dallas is gonna sign everybody

Love this idea, we'd definitely win a ring.
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Post#1716 » by Jaydubb » Wed Jan 3, 2024 2:12 am

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Jaydubb wrote:Rumor is Dallas is gonna sign everybody

Love this idea, we'd definitely win a ring.

I don’t know if I’ve ever seen somebody get released that’s not rumored to sign with Dallas
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Post#1717 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Jan 3, 2024 2:19 am

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Jaydubb wrote:Rumor is Dallas is gonna sign everybody

Love this idea, we'd definitely win a ring.

I don’t know if I’ve ever seen somebody get released that’s not rumored to sign with Dallas

It's true but this one actually makes sense IMO. That said, probably won't happen.
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Post#1718 » by Jaydubb » Wed Jan 3, 2024 2:21 am

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Micah Prescott wrote:Love this idea, we'd definitely win a ring.

I don’t know if I’ve ever seen somebody get released that’s not rumored to sign with Dallas

It's true but this one actually makes sense IMO. That said, probably won't happen.

I can see it happening to be honest
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Post#1719 » by Jaydubb » Wed Jan 3, 2024 8:41 pm

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Maybe sirianni isn’t the main issue but there’s definitely some issues on that coaching staff in my opinion
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Post#1720 » by last stand » Wed Jan 3, 2024 9:42 pm

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Maybe sirianni isn’t the main issue but there’s definitely some issues on that coaching staff in my opinion


I personally think that sloppiness is a head coaching issue.

I think offense and defense are moreso staffing but my thing with that is Nick doesn’t call plays

So is it going to be a toss up everytime we lose an OC? And his defensive hiring/philosophy is also not something I’ve been given confidence in. I mean Gannon was ok, desai seemed ok, and Patricia is whatever

But I have yet to be wowed by a defensive hire. I mean look at the guy harbaugh hired in baltimore in mike Macdonald

We have yet to see nick hire a guy of that caliber. Nick has his positives, and i like those positives. But in 2021 the eagles were sloppy and penalty filled, 2022 they were better but there’s still aspects of the Super Bowl that irk men then 2023 where everything’s sloppy, mistake filled, and his hirings were disastrous

Either desai was a great hire and Nick jumped the gun and didn’t read the issue correctly and fired him. Or the hire was disastrous enough to fire him mid season whilst holding the #2 seed in the conference at the time.

Stuff like that concerns the hell out of me. His relationships with his players less so. That’s something he’s always seemed good at

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