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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#221 » by KillMonger » Tue Jan 2, 2024 12:45 am

p0peye wrote:
Skybox wrote:
drsd wrote:
The problem is that neither will be "scorers" in the NBA. And thus they need to show they can box-out, pass the ball, and be team players.

These two are competing with Houstan, not Suggs.


Why is it implausible that the #11 pick, a sharpshooter out of a major program isn’t capable of being a scorer?


Jett was consensus late 1st round pick (anywhere from #24 to #27):
- https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2023-nba-mock-draft/
- https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/?year-mock=2023
- https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft/
- https://www.nba.com/news/bleacher-report-final-2023-nba-mock-draft-and-full-two-round-predictions

WeHam for some reason made him a lottery pick, but his career so far is in line with where he was projected.

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I don't think it's that cut and dry....considering where we are as a team....our depth....anyone we would've drafted would be in the same situation....too many factors to consider.....opportunity....politics...etc
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#222 » by p0peye » Tue Jan 2, 2024 1:16 am

KillMonger wrote:
p0peye wrote:
Skybox wrote:
Why is it implausible that the #11 pick, a sharpshooter out of a major program isn’t capable of being a scorer?


Jett was consensus late 1st round pick (anywhere from #24 to #27):
- https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2023-nba-mock-draft/
- https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/?year-mock=2023
- https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft/
- https://www.nba.com/news/bleacher-report-final-2023-nba-mock-draft-and-full-two-round-predictions

WeHam for some reason made him a lottery pick, but his career so far is in line with where he was projected.

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I don't think it's that cut and dry....considering where we are as a team....our depth....anyone we would've drafted would be in the same situation....too many factors to consider.....opportunity....politics...etc


What depth? We have Houstan and Okeke playing over him.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#223 » by SOUL » Tue Jan 2, 2024 1:20 am

Okeke has been playing spot PF minutes, Jett is not a PF.

Houstan, sure, but 99% of head coaches don't want to play two rookies unless it's a four year guy or something. It is what it is.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#224 » by thelead » Tue Jan 2, 2024 1:47 am

p0peye wrote:
KillMonger wrote:
p0peye wrote:
Jett was consensus late 1st round pick (anywhere from #24 to #27):
- https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2023-nba-mock-draft/
- https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/?year-mock=2023
- https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft/
- https://www.nba.com/news/bleacher-report-final-2023-nba-mock-draft-and-full-two-round-predictions

WeHam for some reason made him a lottery pick, but his career so far is in line with where he was projected.

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I don't think it's that cut and dry....considering where we are as a team....our depth....anyone we would've drafted would be in the same situation....too many factors to consider.....opportunity....politics...etc


What depth? We have Houstan and Okeke playing over him.


Is Dick playing for the 12-20 Raptors? Hawkins is now playing garbage time minutes, if any, for New Orleans. It's not just Jett that isn't playing much.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#225 » by p0peye » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:20 am

thelead wrote:
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KillMonger wrote:
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I don't think it's that cut and dry....considering where we are as a team....our depth....anyone we would've drafted would be in the same situation....too many factors to consider.....opportunity....politics...etc


What depth? We have Houstan and Okeke playing over him.


Is Dick playing for the 12-20 Raptors? Hawkins is now playing garbage time minutes, if any, for New Orleans. It's not just Jett that isn't playing much.


That is not the point. Our FO invested lottery pick into player generally viewed as late first round pick (aka pick they traditionally transform into cash considerations). Now, I am still hopeful that Jett will prove himself worthy of our trust, but so far he has fared just about how one would expect low first pick to do in rookie season.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#226 » by eyriq » Tue Jan 2, 2024 5:45 am

I'm with Popeye on this one. Jett looked like a back of the first round prospect and is having a back of the first round start to his career.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#227 » by drsd » Tue Jan 2, 2024 8:26 am

SOUL wrote:... but 99% of head coaches don't want to play two rookies unless it's a four year guy or something. It is what it is.


For me, this is the core issue. The Magic was never going to play two rookies, so why draft them?

The #11 could easily have been traded for a future FRP, and another asset. That would have had significant value to the Magic.

But we are were we are.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#228 » by cedric76 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 8:43 am

p0peye wrote:
Skybox wrote:
drsd wrote:
The problem is that neither will be "scorers" in the NBA. And thus they need to show they can box-out, pass the ball, and be team players.

These two are competing with Houstan, not Suggs.


Why is it implausible that the #11 pick, a sharpshooter out of a major program isn’t capable of being a scorer?


Jett was consensus late 1st round pick (anywhere from #24 to #27):
- https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2023-nba-mock-draft/
- https://www.nbadraft.net/nba-mock-drafts/?year-mock=2023
- https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft/
- https://www.nba.com/news/bleacher-report-final-2023-nba-mock-draft-and-full-two-round-predictions

WeHam for some reason made him a lottery pick, but his career so far is in line with where he was projected.

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Jett was a consensus top 15 player before his injury
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#229 » by pepe1991 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 9:31 am

drsd wrote:
SOUL wrote:... but 99% of head coaches don't want to play two rookies unless it's a four year guy or something. It is what it is.


For me, this is the core issue. The Magic was never going to play two rookies, so why draft them?

The #11 could easily have been traded for a future FRP, and another asset. That would have had significant value to the Magic.

But we are were we are.


This. I was on trade a pick wagon and still think that it was right decision to make.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#230 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:02 pm

Had we traded one of our 1st for a future pick i'd sing a different song today. I agree with many others that hindsight is 20/20 and if you are analyzing our picks / some of our signings a clear pattern of college favoritism is so blatantly obvious that if you are ignoring it you lost the plot.

I feel like this accusation of mine is too obvious to be fake news.

I have zero expectations that Chet will contribute to the team this year and potentially next season. Time will tell. At the moment I am in favor of keeping him benched or using him as house money to trade for a veteran guard who likes coming off the bench with the occasional start when it benefits the team.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#231 » by JojoSlimbiid » Tue Jan 2, 2024 2:35 pm

Obviously we aren't seeing something hence why he is getting no run but man when he shoots the ball goes in different.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#232 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Jan 2, 2024 3:32 pm

drsd wrote:
SOUL wrote:... but 99% of head coaches don't want to play two rookies unless it's a four year guy or something. It is what it is.


For me, this is the core issue. The Magic was never going to play two rookies, so why draft them?

The #11 could easily have been traded for a future FRP, and another asset. That would have had significant value to the Magic.

But we are were we are.



You have guys that may not be here next year so they are planning accordingly. OKK is prob done, Harris is prob done, Ingles is no shoe in, Houstan may be done. JI is a FA. Howard will fill one of those spots.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#233 » by JoshuaPotter » Tue Jan 2, 2024 3:46 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
drsd wrote:
SOUL wrote:... but 99% of head coaches don't want to play two rookies unless it's a four year guy or something. It is what it is.


For me, this is the core issue. The Magic was never going to play two rookies, so why draft them?

The #11 could easily have been traded for a future FRP, and another asset. That would have had significant value to the Magic.

But we are were we are.



You have guys that may not be here next year so they are planning accordingly. OKK is prob done, Harris is prob done, Ingles is no shoe in, Houstan may be done. JI is a FA. Howard will fill one of those spots.


Crystal balling it. Going into the draft did we really at the time have the insight to say all of these players "may be done" except for maybe OkK & Ji??

I was a by the end of the draft night a pretty big fan of what they did and saw what they were trying to go for. It is why, even though I have reservations. I am not calling it a bad choice yet. J Howard was a grab and stash for the future. Clearly. Arguably if not for injuries and major underperforming of key players so was Black.

Like I said, hindsight is 20/20. Expecting G Harris to step this far back, Houstan is trying to gain relevance but missing his chances, and the fact that JI / Ingles do not occupy the same space on a roster as Howard is kinda losing the plot a little bit.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#234 » by cedric76 » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:55 pm

Oh man oh man, some of you will eat Crows about Jett
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Post#235 » by eyriq » Tue Jan 2, 2024 4:56 pm

cedric76 wrote:Oh man oh man, some of you will eat Crows about Jett
I'll be happy to but I doubt it.
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Post#236 » by Knightro » Tue Jan 2, 2024 5:28 pm

I think Jett is going to be fine. He can shoot and shooters always have a place in the league.

The real questions are...

How long is it going to take?

Was there somebody else they could have picked that would have been better?
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Post#237 » by zaymon » Tue Jan 2, 2024 5:31 pm

Knightro wrote:I think Jett is going to be fine. He can shoot and shooters always have a place in the league.

The real questions are...

How long is it going to take?

Was there somebody else they could have picked that would have been better?


Impossible to tell right now but Lively, Podziemski, George, Jaquez
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#238 » by Knightro » Tue Jan 2, 2024 5:46 pm

zaymon wrote:
Knightro wrote:I think Jett is going to be fine. He can shoot and shooters always have a place in the league.

The real questions are...

How long is it going to take?

Was there somebody else they could have picked that would have been better?


Impossible to tell right now but Lively, Podziemski, George, Jaquez


George has a .511 TS% and has graded out as a very poor defender to boot. The only difference between him and Jett right now is that he's playing 26 MPG. He's otherwise been quite bad in his minutes. But obviously he's very young and should get better.

Jaquez and Podziemski I can buy, although like Jett neither one was really considered a lotto pick either.

Jaquez is also about to turn 23, so he really should he's further along than Jett who was 19 when he was drafted.
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Post#239 » by eyriq » Tue Jan 2, 2024 5:58 pm

Keyonte is a stud, that combination of shooting and playmaking is legit. Jett lacks athleticism and motor.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#240 » by zaymon » Tue Jan 2, 2024 6:01 pm

Knightro wrote:
zaymon wrote:
Knightro wrote:I think Jett is going to be fine. He can shoot and shooters always have a place in the league.

The real questions are...

How long is it going to take?

Was there somebody else they could have picked that would have been better?


Impossible to tell right now but Lively, Podziemski, George, Jaquez


George has a .511 TS% and has graded out as a very poor defender to boot. The only difference between him and Jett right now is that he's playing 26 MPG. He's otherwise been quite bad in his minutes. But obviously he's very young and should get better.

Jaquez and Podziemski I can buy, although like Jett neither one was really considered a lotto pick either.

Jaquez is also about to turn 23, so he really should he's further along than Jett who was 19 when he was drafted.


I wanted Podziemski but i dont hate Howard pick. Size, shooting, vision is there.
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